Does the USPS, FedEx and UPS give a crap about weed shipments since Hemp sprayed with the same terpenes and looks the same as weed has been shipped legally for 9 years now?
Does the USPS, FedEx and UPS give a crap about weed shipments since Hemp sprayed with the same terpenes and looks the same as weed has been shipped legally for 9 years now?
Even if they did, won't they get a lot of false positives because of a large amount of it being sprayed hemp buds that are legal as hemp? Also, I know a lot of dispensaries get their stock like vape pens and such delivered this way already. How does that all work?
For USPS they have a list of verified hemp vendors, they tried a couple years ago to open packages suspected of marijuana without a warrant. The outcome was it doesn't matter if they suspect it, you still have to get a warrant. So now if a vendor is a certified hemp vendor they can't touch it. Now UPS and FedEx are private companies so they can do pretty much whatever they want, that's why almost all hemp shipments go through USPS. I'm paraphrasing a lot but that's the gist of it. USPS is currently and has been the largest drug dealer in the country, even with omitting hemp because with the volume they process you could never catch them all and every other drug doesn't have a pungent smell like weed.
Like Mitch Hedberg used to say "I love the mail guy, he's a drug dealer and he doesn't even know it!"
Well, if you're stupid enough to mail some weed or any other controlled substance via USPS Media Mail, they don't need a warrant or even Postal Inspectors to open it. As long as it is clear that the item is not media of some kind, it can be opened and documented to charge the correct postage.
Saw this before when some ding-dongs tried dumping mushroom growing kits (not exactly illegal) in the blue box at my old office. The only reason they opened them is because the fertilizer inside was causing a noticable amount of steam to come from the box (it was winter as well). All they really did was return it for proper postage because it was the wrong type.
To be clear, the spores are perfectly legal. You can mail order spores that come in saline solution in a syringe without trouble. The businesses selling that are smart enough to not use media mail, which of course would cross a line (fraud). I wonder why someone would risk media mail. Perhaps they thought it would be trusted as such and thus have less scrutiny.
The nuance here is you said “kit”, which suggests everything you need for growth and thus intent. Maybe you’re right on that bit. Buying everything separately would require surveillance to put all that together that you have a kit, in effect.
They can just delay your package until the warrant comes through. It doesn’t take that long.
And “we got a hit by a dog/swab” is usually accepted probable cause for opening it up
🎶"Inhale - exhale - just got an ounce in the mail"🎶
A friend of mine used to ship pounds at a time through FedEx. He would ship about 20 packages every fall, half of them made it to their destination, but he and the recipients were never contacted about it. His thinking was that if someone at FedEx noticed, they would just keep it, while someone at USPS would probably get the wheels turning for prosecution.
I work for the post in another country where its medically prescribable and we have seen an uptick in suspicious small packages that reek of weed. The boss called the cops on the first one (years ago) and the cops were more interested in how we knew what marijuana smelled like and treated us like shit for calling them. Really we just wanted guidance on where our liability was on being part of the "chain" and how seriously we should take it and they were absolute cunts.
So now in our office our unofficial policy is "You smelled pot? No you didnt. And if you did, how do you know its not being sent legally? And even if you're fucking sure its sketchy as hell, you're calling the cops and making the statements and dealing with it. You arent fucking my day up over some guy getting a quarter you fucking narc."
If you want legal advice call a lawyer. Cops aren’t there to help you. They barely even understand the law and their only interest is fucking with you regardless if it’s legal or not.
Cops are shit. You’re better off never interacting with them.
Your mistake was thinking you could call cops for help.
Our policy and procedure manual says call the cops. I knew they werent going to care about personal use amounts. But I didnt expect borderline hostility.
maybe things have changed but years ago it was generally understood that a little bit once would be ignored but a huge amount or too often wouldn't be ignored. best to double ziplock your ganja and stuff it into a half full shampoo bottle for travels, like an adult.
Never heard of the shampoo thing and am an adult, please elaborate on what the procedure is and why you would do this
Knowing someone working for one of the three services you named…. They don’t really care. The people at the counter can’t accuse you of anything unless you are dumb enough to say you are shipping weed. After that, I would assume shipping is laxed due to your mentioned reasons.
Yeah I know people that have sent a lot of weed through the mail and as long as it doesn't obviously reek of weed, they really don't care.
Imagine the lawsuit if they had a false positive that was hemp bud.
I recently learned that its pretty normal to order weed online to have it delivered in Canada. Lucky bastards...
It's totally normal in the US. I get a monthly subscription delivered along with other occasional orders. Former president cheeto signed the 2018 farm bill essentially making it federally legal. A few states have banned it, but most places it's fine.
Just seal it well and they won't have a reason to inspect it in the first place.
Regardless of whether they care or not shipping something across state lines that is illegally federally would give me pause.
I do wonder about how dispensaries are stocked now that you mention it.
The lady at the local dispensary said that most of the product is grown in state to ensure it’s not a felony to cross state lines with it. She did say that in the earlier days there was shady practices in driving things up from Cali but now it’s all in state.
It’s very closely regulated in most states and everything in a dispensary is labeled, accounted for and on camera at all times. It’s really a bit absurd.
and on camera at all times
Reminds me of the time cops raided a pot collective, tore out what they thought were all the cameras, and proceeded to make themselves at home.
Tore out all the cameras they did not. They were caught on camera eating the pot merch, playing darts, and joking about kicking an amputee in her "nub".
Hey OP, check out this defcon talk. I think it's relevant to your question https://youtu.be/01oeaBb85Xc?si=UDuEjhJLxp6Ysjl5