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Call it by what it is:

Alligator Auschwitz

Whoa, I hope that catches on. Fr, that's spot on.
- It's definitely catching on.
  Oh, you mean the name, not the idea. Thing is, people who are still okay with all this will embrace such a name, they don't have any compassion to care, ridicule or not.
- It’s gone viral …. This is about the 20th time I’ve seen this in the past couple of days!
  (Good)
Alligator
is this a reference to lizard people?
- It's in Florida where there are a ton of alligators, essentially the 'Gator State'
- They illegally built in on protected land in the Everglades, where it is essentially surrounded by alligator infested wetlands. These psychopaths are laughing at the thought of people trying to escape and being eaten by wildlife

denial is a powerful weapon. along with propaganda, gaslighting, state controlled media, money-- all things deployed to make the average, normally decent human being witness the atrocities going on around them and say "i mean, this is america. we wouldn't allow masked men to kidnap people for no reason" as they watch their literal american citizen neighbor getting kidnapped, imprisoned, deported. murdered. for no reason

aged like milk
- File that along with Hillary Clinton in the debate telling us exactly what Trump would do. People called her a liar then too.
- LOL see my comment in that thread

watching this happening in real time makes me wonder if the only reson germany lost was bc they started a war. bc rn it seems like we r doing what germany did but havent started a world war yet which will be interesting bc wed prob end up like russia, china, and NK etc. everyone know there are concentratiosn camps and human right violations but nobody would do anything bc there isnt a valid reason too yet bc if anyobe does anything, itll be taken as a sign of aggression and possibly war

💯%. the US was heavily isolationist at the start of WWII, and pretty anti-Semitic. for example, the St. Louis, a boat full of Jewish refugees, was turned away from the US and Canada in 1939 - and turned back to Europe, with many Jews eventually imprisoned and murdered by the Nazis. there were also the blackshirts in the UK, who were pro-Nazi, and PM Chamberlain had a peace treaty drawn up with Hitler. and the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact with the Soviets, of course.
so if the Nazis had been content to murder only German, Austrian and Czech Jews, they would have gotten away with it.
on the other hand, Nazi ideology (e.g. "lebensraum" and their belief in the destiny of the Aryan race to conquer the "inferior" races) drove them to war, to invade Poland and to break their pact with the Soviets. and they also spent tons of resources on the Holocaust, at the expense of their military.
so basically yeah, isolationist Nazis would have totally survived, but otoh Nazis aren't isolationists.
- so basically yeah, isolationist Nazis would have totally survived,
  Everything you said was on point but this part I feel is incorrect. Nazi Germany was on the brink of bankruptcy by 1939 because of government overspending, mainly due to rearmament. Hitler felt he had to absolutely invade other countries to pillage the resources and maintain the German economy. People tend to give too much credit to the Nazis but the regime would have totally collapsed on its own if it weren't for the war delaying the inevitable.
  Hitler and the Nazis aren't different to any other dictatorships in post-war third world countries. They are bunch of fantasist buffoons. The Nazis only got lucky they went so far because they inherited strong institutions to leech off of, particularly the legacy of the Prussian military-- the army with a state.
- ngl i was kinda hoping you'd say my statement is bull and germany wouldve been wiped out anyways regardless of starting a war lol (: i hate this timeline ;-;
- True. If germany wouldn't have started the war or would engage in limited warfare then nazi germany would have existed till now. Europe is lucky in the sense that USA and europe are separated by a big ocean. Otherwise USA politics would have affected europe. Also USA can remain isolated for a long time. And this makes it dangerous for people living there. Because europe and other countries cannot force USA to change its internal rules or cannot advise USA about its internal affairs.
Nazi Germany kinda had to start wars because their spending wasn't sustainable: they had significant yearly deficits and they were always looking for ways to push forward the day that Germany would become insolvent. They stole the assets of outgroups like the Jewish minority, financially raided the banks, had the treasury print money to pay of debts, implemented price and wage controls to stave off inflation because of printing too much money, ... None of it was sustainable in the long term. The longer term plan was to conquer other nations and plunder those.
And very unfortunate for the world today: the spending by usa republicans isn't sustainable either + the usa has a very big army. Some people would say that the usa republicans couldn't possibly be that stupid to rob or invade their peaceful trade partners, but ... a lot of republicans are pretty damn stupid and short sighted, including the president.
- a lot of republicans are pretty damn stupid and short sighted, including the president.
  They aren't just stupid, many on the right are religiously dedicated to the idea of a judgement day and devastating war between 'good and evil'. They are convinced 'God is on their side'. Evangelical Christian fascists have been pushing this for years, it was almost guaranteed to come to direct conflict from the course the US has been on unless there was some kind of intervention long ago.
- The longer term plan was to conquer other nations and plunder those.
  So what Fat Hitler keeps talking about regarding Greenland and Canada
- A good book that documents this is The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich by William Shirer.
  An arduous read, but vital for thinking minds nonetheless.
Trump keeps talking about annexing Canada though. Hitler didn’t need to invade Poland or any of the other nations he Blitzkrieged, but there it is.
He has fallen quiet about that though. I wonder if someone with an ounce of historical knowledge told him that if you’re going to fascist, don’t start wars at the same time.
- If Israel manages to send the US to war it may start a chain reaction.

what's annoying is reading on bsky or mastodon or other places with Americans going "it's happening" or "soon this will be normal" etc it's like no bro, it isn't happening and it isn't soon, it's now. It's already happened. you're living in it. you're a nazi nation. you aren't becoming nazi Germany, you currently are nazi Germany.

you're at the end of that poem. your government is now openly saying they're going to arrest politicians and citizens that don't agree with them. your government is taking away birthright citizenship and very soon they'll go after naturalized citizens and then just straight up regular citizens.

if you're not a white, "straight", christian, male earning over $500mil a year you're fucked. they WILL come for you. They've already laid out the protections for the group previously mentioned. You've lost your country and no amount of peaceful protesting is going to return it to you. There's literally one course of action left but I believe the average American is either too afraid or unwilling to commit to it.

154 million people voted in 2024. That's a hair over 65% of the voting agreed population. Over half of those people supported this shit stain, and even if they disagree with him on some things now, most will still support and defend him.
My personal objections to participating in a armed resistance aside. No one is looking to organize an armed resistance as far as I'm aware and the concept of organizing such a resistance seems nearly impossible for many reasons.
I've seen a few reports of protesters making things more difficult for ICE, but that's about the most resistance I've seen. I'm starting to see why reasonable Germans didn't rise up, it's not that they agreed or didn't want to, it's difficult to organize a resistance. There needs to be a clear leader, good communication channels, a way to vet those who join, and anything else a military operation needs. And even then, you'd be going up against over half the population and the armed forces. And it would be giving a reason for them to use full military force against the citizens.
There is no good end to this, there is no way to stop this from continuing. I think a lot of people are counting on midterms to bring a peaceful end to this nightmare, I doubt we will have that chance and even if we do, the outcome will not be enough to swing the power.
We're fucked.
- Oh you see now how impossible it really is to fight back once it's in swing? You either need outside assistance from a hostile country, or you will be dying basically out of spite, accomplishing nearly nothing.
  You need something more, something smarter.
- Less than half of voters voted for this admin. He only won a plurality.
- Your stats are wrong. How are we going up against half the population if much less than half the population voted for Trump.. and now his favorability ratings are even lower than when he took office?
Ooh, but calling for violence is naughty and will get you banned blah blah blah.
Get your shit together, America.
They took a "Death by a thousand cuts" approach to fascism, and we're about 1200 cuts in.
you aren't becoming nazi Germany, you currently are nazi Germany.
I can only hope that the body count isn’t as similar as the rest of their playbook.
It is terrifying to consider the very real possibility that the US may have already “deported” thousands of people to a mass grave somewhere. I’m not aware of any evidence of that, but while it would still shock me it would not surprise me.
- What exactly do you think CECOT is? Those people aren't awaiting trial.
At this point the left needs to take back the power of violence
you're at the end of that poem. your government is now openly saying they're going to arrest politicians and citizens that don't agree with them
Not to be a pedant but that's the beginning of the poem

America started down this path all the way back in 9/12/2001. We didn't hold Bush accountable, Obama, Trump, or Biden. Now the lunatic is using the tools provided to him.

O'bama
This is killing me lol
- TIL Obama is of irish decent.
  https://www.irishfamilyhistorycentre.com/article/president-barack-obamas-irish-ancestry/
- Didn't know he was half-irish 😃
Honestly, it started sooner I think, or more to the point, it's had this sort of tendency lurking in the background for it's whole history to lesser and greater extents, the last few decades until the current one just being something of a lower period that makes this stand out by contrast.
After all, these aren't exactly the first concentration camps built in or by the United States, the country has a history with forced labor and institutionalized racial supremacy so severe that the country literally split itself apart over it at one point, and it's founding and expansion to it's current borders involved the genocide of those already living on the land in question.
The silver lining to all this I guess, if you can call it that, is that this history and the fact we even had something of a relative lul in all this, implies that as bleak as things look, the racism, nativism, and disenfranchisement can be squashed down again, because it's been done here before.
- and it’s founding and expansion to it’s current borders involved the genocide of those already living on the land in question.
  This. The USA was founded on genocide.

Anyone who believes this can be stopped through any means other than revolt is either a fool or a liar. Take up arms, organize with your community, and fight back.

i see this posted a lot. so why don't you go do it yourself? i know why: because you KNOW that taking up arms and attacking ICE will make Trump send his army at you to kill you, and all this will accomplish is make you a martyr they can use in propaganda OR ignite a full on civil war. i am tired of seeing this post. stop encouraging people to do things that YOU YOURSELF find unreasonable to do. and if you find it reasonable, than put up and shut up and stop fucking posting about it to look cool. we'll see you on the news.
- I agree! The 2nd amendment isn't for the right or left. It is for EVERYONE, some people just chose to ignore it because they could. It's easy to make fun of open carry gun nuts and paranoid preppers, but you know maybe a government that is unwilling/unable to help you isn't so far fetched after all
  Anyone can buy similar stuff, train at a range every month or so to get proficient (dry fire is fine too if you don't have a range), read a few military manuals your tax money paid for. Being a responsible gun owner may sound daunting but it's not.
  Then work on physical fitness a bit, enough to take a 5+ mile hike without dying. Learn some first aid too because everyone should be able to deal with a gunshot wound anyway.
  In the end you can't assume that your political opponents to take risks for you
- ignite a full on civil war
  It's already a civil war.
  Don't mistake me I basically agree with everything your saying, but make no mistake we are Germany in the '30s, whatever you are doing is what you would have done then.
  We're all on the internet talking tough about it while the camps are being built...
- I went out, got a permit to purchase, and bought a gun plus ammo shortly after Trump was elected. I have been prompting friends and others to do the same, organizing who I can to the cause. I am no fool, one man with a gun can't solve this, nor do I believe myself to be some great revolutionary leader who will lead the nation into the future. So, instead, I promote the cause, I continue to try to organize and prepare for the eventual war that is to come, and remind people like You that You have done nothing and continue to do nothing. You can change that, the revolution does not only need fighters, but those willing to spread the message of rebellion, and those willing to do what they can to support the cause. Stand with us, or stand aside.
- How do you know people posting that aren't doing it? It already is ignited, it's at a low burn, only because people aren't fighting back en masse yet, but in some places there is resistance going on. I agree though, "don't speak about it, be about it".
- They might still be on step 2
You would have to ironically genocide half the population, as half of USA is complicit, and evil.
- If you mean everyone who voted for Trump, it was closer to 1/3 of the population. Some of those were merely ignorant, and they can be saved through a system of re-education camps after the revolution.

Until there is legitimate, sustained, and effective opposition to this Alligator Auschwitz, the rest of the world sees it as American as apple pie and school shootings.

It’s speed running to the wrong side of history.

Apple pie isn't American, it's origin is in England and the European mainland afterwards.
School shootings are American and they can keep those.
- That just proves they have an established precedent of stealing ideas and branding them as their own. First British, now German.
When has America been on the 'right side of history'? It's been humanity's bully ever since WW2, and before that they murdered and displaced the locals. I see this as nothing more than an expression of the well known Anglo-Saxon (read: Germanic) MO/ideology. Idk what's up with them, honestly, but you can count on a majority of them to choose murder and pillage before morals, peace and self-restraint.
- The US has been on the losing side of every major military conflict they’ve been involved in since 1945, their current leaders believe that streak dates back to 1865.
  2025 is bang on with that cadence.

Dont forget media consolidated and owned by the wealthy

Depending on your perspective, either the Americans half-assed their camps, or the Germans overbuilt theirs.

We couldn't find any builders for the concentration camps as the builders are in concentration camps.
Speaking as an American, America half-asses everything.
- No, we don
Everything is a grift with them, even genocide. They are probably embezzling most of the funds.
- Yea probably this. Nazi Germany was in a sick way proud of their very efficient and stylish dictatorship. Trump's just here for the show, he wants minimal costs and maximum profit for the billionaires. There isn't even any nationalism here it's just a facade, this is about billionaires tramping (or trumping) over the rest to see how far they can push their oligarchy.
Something I've noticed is that the Trump regime is doing fascism with absolutely no style. The Nazis were awful, but they looked good being awful, literally, as in they had Hugo Boss doing their fashion and Volkswagens to drive around in. Trump just has the cheapest stuff that still works, tents for the camps and generic military gear for the secret police. I think it says a lot about the nature of the Trump regime.
- Apparently even things that start out shitty are susceptible to enshittification
The Germans built death camps.
Trump is building cruelty centres. You don't need much to starve and degrade people. Just cages, bright lights turned on 24/7, and a lack of food and fresh water.
I'm sure these will be upgraded to death camps, but for now they just want to see brown people suffer. Once they get tired of that, they'll start the killing.
In 1933 the first concentration camps also had massive improvised parts. It took about a year for them to be run fully professional. Conditions also became worse over time, with the start of WW2 being a huge step. That was also the start of the extermination camps, which were meant for genocide. Concentration camps were "just" really horrible prisons, which also had criminal and political prisoners, which were actually partly released.
This is just early concentration camp. Good chance it gets worse.
Well, seeing as it already flooded...
The only competent people they have are the ones they want in the camps.

I find it really annoying how Americans are so ignorant of history that they literally cannot make any historical comparisons outside of Nazi Germany. This is the only historical point of reference in American discourse. All historical comparisons default back to it because Americans don't know anything else, not even their own history... like the Japanese Interment camps. Recorded human history is around 10,000 years old and it has everything, but somehow people in this country think there are no historical events or time periods to draw parallels from outside of what happened in central Europe during Hitler's reign.

Yah but to be fair, MAGA isn’t helpful in this regard by being so much like the Nazis.
- I mean it's fine to make comparisons if they're valid, but Nazi Germany comparisons are literally the only comparisons that I see. I never see these camps being compared to the Russian Gulags or MAGA being compared to the Know Nothings from the 1850s or Trump being compared to Andrew Jackson, and so on. These comparisons are also accurate and valid, and I would argue that they add an element of depth that our discourse severely lacks.
I find it really annoying how Americans are so ignorant of history that they literally cannot make any historical comparisons outside of Nazi Germany.
To be fair, all we should need to say is "It's kind of fucked up to do
<fucked up thing being done>
" and people should agree and it should stop. Instead, so much of the media and so many propagandized conservatives are just denying it all and making up excuses. Historically, Nazi's have been universally seen as unequivocally evil so it's the only comparison that we think might get through.
Now though... Musk can fucking salute Hitler twice in a row at the presidential inauguration and calling it out is contentious. We're frankly out of ideas.
Unfortunately, the history taught here (at least where I grew up, but I believe it is like this in most parts of the country) is so US-centric and pre-WWII topical that we didn't learn anything else. I don't think I learned about the Japanese internment camps until law school and I was in "advanced classes" throughout my pre-university years.
Of course people would educate themselves outside of class, but there's a variety of reasons that doesn't really happen. It's quite sad and unfortunate we don't learn about the other atrocities (even those directly caused by the US). I wish it were different.
Slightly off-topic, but we're not even taught the realities of our own history that we're supposedly taught about. Example: the civil war. If you ask many people in certain southern states (and surely some more northern ones too), the reasons they give for the war do not match reality. Or at least they do not come close to telling the whole story. The stranglehold on our education system is bonkers
- Well they're not just gonna tell you it was capitalism.
ignorant, is understatement, i think some areas arnt even teaching history from ww2 and on
- A lot of American schools are now basically only teaching the civil rights movement and a very water downed version of the cold war after teaching about WWII, and very rarely, some schools might dabble into 9/11 and the war on terror if they have time at the end of the year. There is no emphasis at all on international history.

They are ALREADY DYING IN THESE CAMPS. We are all complicit at this point.

Go fuck yourself I have been and will continue to do what little I can to fight this and I am not remotely complicit
What are we supposed to do? Go there ourselves? I'm not trying to be a dick but what can normal people do to help?
- Imagine what a person in one of those cages would want to do if they weren't in those cages.
  We need to do what's right.

Nazi camps look more humane.

Donadolf Drumpfler

That's his hero, he's Señor Don Taco.

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You asked for ice?

one difference is the camps of the nazi are concrete and robust structures, the trump ones are cheap half assed temporary buildings or tents. especially with hurricane they are susceptible to wiped off of florida.

I think that's by design, no need for gas chambers when you can just tee up mother nature.

May the Heavens smite Trump, and every MAGAt, and let the thunder roar to the furthest ends of the Earth.

And make sure it fucking hurts.

No. Sitting back and waiting for imaginary sky people to act on our behalves isn't going to accomplish anything. We, the actual people, need to fight back ourselves.
- Ah, that's in the pipeline too.
  Remember the term: RDASH.

It's deliberate by Russia so they have an excuse to bomb us. I've been telling you all they would do this since December.

They're definitely concentration camps but I don't think this is a good way to draw the comparison, you could easily do the same side by side with FEMA camps (temporary housing) after a natural disaster. Something that the conspiracy oriented people have been doing for a long while.

Let's have a close up of it as a comparison, not just one of the roofs. There's just better ways to do this.

there's videos of the inside, which is rows and rows of cots of three in a stack, separated by chain link fencing, no amenities or windows, posted gleefully by people like Benny Johnson (who is a Maga psycho)
- Yeah I saw the video and pictures a little bit after I commented and I think taking that kind of thing and putting it side by side with Auschwitz is a much better side by side.
  Also it's cots of 2, just normal bunk beds, not 3. 3 was what it was like down in El Salvador. Not that that matters much but yeah.
definitions:
prisons hold prisoners accused or convicted of crimes. the big difference between prisons and concentration camps is scale and homogeneity - camps are bigger and have one kind of prisoner.
gulags hold political prisoners but aren't as big as concentration camps. kinda Soviet-specific.
reeducation camps hold masses of political prisoners with the goal of indoctrinating them with some ideology. the Xinjiang camps for the Uighurs are an example.
concentration camps are mass prisons for political prisoners - usually prisoners of war or ethnic minorities. most Nazi camps, along with the Japanese internment camps, were concentration camps.
death camps are concentration camps used for mass murder/genocide. Auschwitz was the major Nazi death camp for the Holocaust, though there were a few others.
refugee camps are mass temporary shelters. you're allowed to leave. FEMA camps and various UN camps are good examples.
Alligator Auschwitz is a concentration camp because it's 1) massive, 2) full of the same type of prisoner (ethnic minority migrants), 3) who can't leave. it's not yet a death camp, but most Nazi camps weren't death camps (they centralized that!)
- I mean thanks for the information that I already knew. I don't quite understand the point of your comment though cause we agree on this, that it's a concentration camp.
  Edit: I was talking about using aerial photos for the comparison being bad not comparing the current concentration camp that was just built in Florida to other concentration camps being bad. In case that's your misunderstanding of what I was talking about.

That most likely is the case.

But an areal picture of a bunch of cheap houses in a row isn't that good of an argument.

Also, the Holocaust was more about the gas chambers than the locking up.

Gas chambers were first trialled in October 1939 and went into regular use in early 1940.
Hitler came to power in January 1933. So it took 6 years and 8 months (or 80 months in total) to get from getting to power to gassing people.
Hitler only started mass deportations in October 1938, so 5 years and 8 months (or 68 months) after he got to power.
Trump has been in power for less than 6 months now.
- Ok but there isn't really a totally perfect correspondence. Arguably Trump hasn't even started "mass deportations", just extremely brutal ones. They aren't actually managing to deport people faster than the previous administration right now, and Obama still holds the record by far. Anyway the important thing is it's not a one-to-one "they are deporting people so we are 80% of the way from them seizing power to death camps".
You in a couple of months: "They aren't gas chambers. They are called deoxygenation rooms. It's clearly different."
- That is a dumb assumption.
  If they are systematically killing people, doesn't matter how, then you can draw the comparison and I would agree.
  But locking people up and deporting them has always happened in the US. The US is a prison state with regulated slavery for crying out loud.