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11mo ago

Team Fortress 2 reaches o overwhelmingly negative recent reviews

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11mo ago

Despite using VAC, TF2 has so many bots and cheates that it's the first Valve game with low review score.

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Out of loop. What happen?
- TF2 is in a near unplayable state. Valve has neglected it and as a result it's not hard for people to bypass the anti-cheat. This has resulted in bots overtaking the game. This has been a problem for years, but there have been some recent pushes to get Valve's attention. First was #savetf2 which resulted in Valve tweeting that the "heard us" and had things planned. Well nothing happened and now we're trying again. #fixtf2 is the newest push and has come with extra steps from the community. Many people, including myself, have switched our reviews of TF2 to negative to hopefully get Valve's attention.
  
  Valve is probably ignoring TF2 so that fans switch to deadlock which is tf2-overwatch-dota2 adjacent.
  
  I re-installed (I have about 500 hours total) and joined for a game for the first time in years (so I'm level 0, whatever that means; I guess that was added after I quit) and had a blast. Not sure if it's only in the higher levels or because of region (I'm based in Japan). Only had time for one game on a quick work break, so not enough sample size .
- It's been steadily overrun by bots, and I guess the community hit a breaking point
  
  That suck. Nobody like bots.
  Bot like cheat bot or bot like play bot?

Now they've moved to review-bombing other Valve games since Valve isn't listening.
Not a great look for the community.
- Not a great look for valve either
- What other options do they have? This is like complaining abut people striking, when it's the only way for them to get a decent salary.
  Sometimes we need to make things difficult to get listened to in life.
  
  What other options do they have?
  Review-bombing other games is valid when TF2 is broken?
- Community in question has been eduring this for at least 4 years now. Id wager to say that taking matters into their own hands via activism and demanding change with whatever methods they can is a very good look actually.
  
  Community in question has been eduring this for at least 4 years now.
  Where were the negative TF2 reviews in the last 4 years then? Give TF2 a bad score, don't rate other games badly, just because "the community" was complacent until now.
  
  It’s. A. Video. Game.
- No surprise what so ever

What do they want Valve to do? It’s security vs convenience. If they added 2 factor authentication and removed F2P it would fix the issue while also pissing fans off.
- When they went F2P it pissed off fans. Any change will piss off fans.
  There should be servers that only permit paid accounts and/or accounts over a certain age.
- Honestly? I suspect that a big contributing factor to the bot problem is that there are some items that can be sold for real life money. A simple change to greatly reduce the bot problem is to eliminate this market and let the game be a game.
  But obviously Valve is not going to kill the golden goose. And honestly, I'm pretty sure a big chunk of the people playing the game will also get mad if Valve moves this way. After all, someone is buying all these dumb items. So nothing will be fixed here hahaha. Or probably they will just implement a temporal fix like yet another stupid DRM and call it a day.
- It's unplayable in its current form. That's not convenient.

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