1y ago

NEW POLL: Nearly Half Believe Trump Should Drop Campaign Over Guilty Verdict

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And nearly half were never going to vote for him anyway. I want a poll of who was previously voting for him, and now will not.
- https://abcnews.go.com/538/trumps-guilty-verdict-impact-2024-presidential-election/story?id=110650906
  https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/national/
- This one talks about it: https://youtu.be/uMVnhJEDQtg
  
  youtube videos are not polls
The real headline is that 20% of Republicans think so. Shocking.
- "I think Trump should drop his campaign. But if he doesn't, I'm still voting for him, because I'll vote for that felon over any liberal"
  
  Biden crime family are felons too, they just hid behind the law by only doing legal felonies!
  ... or something. I'm not batshit insane enough to understand the actual thought process.
- Trump’s unfavorability among Republicans has hovered around 20% for a while now.
  
  The last poll considered in that link occurred on March 2-4. So the results seem outdated in regards to the recent convictions.
  
  yeah, that's incredibly low unfavorability.
- 20% of Republicans in the primaries were still voting for Nikki Haley, likely as a protest vote, even long-after Nikki dropped out.
  So this is all within expectations. As usual, the Trump delusional refuses to accept reality. Its up to the rest of the country to band together and vote against him.
  
  still voting for Nikki Haley
  If Mr Trump eventually can't run, Ms Haley is the presumptive candidate, having won a primary somewhere. And it's too soon to launch another bid by anyone else.
  Genius, really.
- Although that tracks with the republicans that didn’t like him before the trial.
Narrator: “He didn’t.”
- Yeah there is ZERO chance he willingly drops out. Getting re-elected is his only path out of the hole he keeps digging deeper. Well that or leaving the country for good and living out his days in Russia.
  
  That would be a short stay in Russia. Putin doesn't keep useless assets around.
So, basically, the conviction has changed nothing for this poll.
- It affected independent voters more than anything.
nearly half
Half of what? I see it's voters, so, the democrats? Wow, really cool journalism, who could have seen that one coming!
- Having read the article, that 'half of voters' includes 20% of republicans, 80% of democrats and 52% of independents.
  That's a bit more meaningful than your flippant 'voters = democrats'
  
  That is actually notable
- Republicans are not half of the population. They use gerrymandering, voter suppression, and the electoral college to have an outsized influence.
  
  They do, but:
  The partisan identification of registered voters is now evenly split between the two major parties: 49% of registered voters are Democrats or lean to the Democratic Party, and a nearly identical share – 48% – are Republicans or lean to the Republican Party.
  Source: Pew Research
Why not cite how many people were polled?
Near as I can figure, a lot of people who only passingly pay attention politics assumed he would have to quit if convicted.
He's simply being factored out of the equation by them
- If anyone is factored out of the equation, it's those low-information voters who don't follow the news.
I wonder who would replace him?
- Could be one reason we haven't seen a running mate yet. That would give them a backup plan if they were already rallied behind somebody else.
  Though I suppose equally well, no one had wanted to be committed to partnering with him before they saw how these trials played out.
- Haley.
  Young, female, minority, well known, and at least somewhat sane compared to the rest of the crazies in the field. And I'm not saying I agree with her policies, but if the election were to be held today, I think Haley would beat Biden easily. Again, this is not an opinion on either candidate or their policies; given the current political climate and especially considering Biden's continued support for Israel and the genocide they're conducting, I think Haley would be able to pick up at least some of the disenfranchised Biden voters and win by a pretty good margin.
  
  Haley literally sharpied the words “finish them” on materiel being sent to Israel. Anyone swearing off Biden over his Israel policy is sure as shit not gonna support Haley. Or who knows, maybe they would, I think a third of them are cosplaying, another third accelerationists, and the remaining third severely misguided idealists.
  
  but if the election were to be held today, I think Haley would beat Biden easily.
  Are you taking into account the write-in votes for Trump from people who think tuh meedya is lying to them about him being dead?
The same half that believe in a flat earth or the same half that believe in horse paste?
lol strong doubt.
I'm a registered Democrat. I would not support him dropping out of the election even if he's in jail.
There is no established rule that says you can not run for president as a convicted felon.
What I am in favor of is people not being fucking idiots and voting for a convicted felon to be president. Just as the same as I'm in favor of people not voting for a literal farm animal to be president - it's just moronic. I'm also no in favor of people voting for anyone who's failed to present themselves as a public figure who gives a flying fuck about the American People or the United States Constitution or someone who may be a rapist or may be a bigot or may not be able to speak or read comprehensively. Why the fuck are we stuck with this guy as an option? Out of 330 million people, this is the best we can do?
Edit: I mean, how is it that so many people are dummies?
people are fairly split on the Trump case overall with 47% saying the charges against Trump were politically motivated
- I agree with you. I recognize my choice of words didn't hit the nail on the head and I failed to take the time to find the right word(s).
  Whatever the word is for people who are easily brainwashed and find comfort in their echo chamber despite being informed of the facts by historically reputable organizations - those people.
  Because despite liberals also living in their own echo chambers, most of them can still observe reality and accept that Biden also has his shortcomings. They can also look at what's going on with Hunter and agree with the reasonable Republicans and say whatever wrongs he did, he should be held accountable. They can judge him for what he's doing / not doing in Gaza and protest him (as they should). If Joe Biden did one percent of what Trump has done in his life, Democrats would turn on him, not defend him. I'm still not forgiving him for the 1994 crime bill and don't think he should ever have been elected president. I was excited to discover a progressive voice in TYT in the mid 2010s but I've kept a level head and realized they were turning into extremists.
  Brainwashing, propaganda, advertising; I don't understand how they work. I worked as an art director in advertising and I had to quit because of all the manipulation. They all treat people like rats hanging a big chunk of stinky cheese in front of them.
  I'm a pretty dumb person but I vividly recall, as an eight year old in catechism class, thinking all religions claim to be the "true" religion and realizing that there was no such thing as god and it was ll bullshit. How was I, as an eight year old, able to break free from the cult while most grown adults fail to see through it all? That's the part I don't get and I wrongly chose "dummy" to describe these people.

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