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The cultured wars: Why lab-grown meat is inspiring bipartisan hate

www.salon.com The cultured wars: Why lab-grown meat is inspiring bipartisan hate

Ron DeSantis wants to “protect meat." John Fetterman supports him.

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Is the only argument against lab-grown meat that it disrupts an existing industry? Because I’ve yet to hear a legitimate reason why this is a bad idea.
- I don't think it's a reason to not go ahead with it either but then again it's not too far off from the similar argument about replacing actors/knowledge workers with AI or factory workers/truck drivers with automation. It is true that while it may provide better and even cheaper product it does also come with a loss of work for ton of people.
  
  It also comes without a loss of life for animals.
- The same people losing their minds over GMO crops are embracing labgrown meat. Why would you trust this? It's the ultimate processed food.
  
  I’m for GMOs and lab meat.
  
  No its not ffs
  
  Instead of useless hostile replies, people should have just informed you that you're likely confusing plant-based meat alternatives like impossible Burger with lab grown meat. Lab grown meat is still meat and it's not processed from a bunch of ingredients it's grown, just not on an animal. I'm sorry lemmy is so toxic. People should be allowed to not know everything, I think.
they say bipartisan but the only democrat I see mentioned is fetterman. which does make me wonder about him more.
- As a member of @SenateAgDems
  
  There you go. Agriculture lobby.
  
  John Fetterman continues: " and as some dude who would never serve that slop to my kids,"
  More likely the kids will serve it to you? LOL
- I've never been more disappointed in someone I voted for than Fetterman.
  
  Which is saying something because they're all pretty disappointing.
  
  It seems like his stroke really changed him, like personality wise. It's just a shot in the dark, but I wonder if it really did. I really liked him before.
  
  Your other option that cycle would have been so much worse.
  
  If it makes you feel better I would likely have voted for him before to if I lived in the state.
Reduces cruelty, so of course they hate it.
- It'll be competition with existing agricultural businesses. If you're a rancher, you don't want disruptive technology coming along and disrupting you out of business.
  
  As things stand today -- and this has not been a constant over time, as their positions used to be reversed -- the Republicans are the "rural" party, and the Democrats the "urban" party, so special interests involved with farming are gonna generally find a voice with the Republican Party.
  
  So this issue is boiling down to a luddite-esque type of situation. Except this time it's the rich business owners getting pissed instead of poor textile workers.
  
  Well sure, that's probably the real reason... But with how moustache-twirlingly evil these fuckers seem to delight in being these days, can you say for certain it's the only reason? 🧐
- Reduces profits, so of course they hate it. Every doomed industry rushes to turn their products into the front line of a reactionary culture war.
“It doesn’t even make sense to me why someone would want to eat that,” Balsick said. “For us as humans to think that we can make a product better than God can is interesting.”

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Are nuggets made with lab-grown chicken a more questionable choice than, say, milk from a cow that’s been fed ground-up chicken waste, a common practice which experts say may be contributing to the spread of bird flu?
- “For us as humans to think that we can make a product better than God can is interesting.”
  
  And yet I bet this doorknob still eats bread, a product much better than the raw grain God provided us.
  
  All of us can do LOTS of things better than god. For starters, we’re visible. When someone asks us a question, we respond - and often in a clear, simple, unambiguous way, too. We can demonstrate our effect on the physical world. The list goes on.
  
  I was gonna say, has this clown never heard of cooking
  
  I guess we’ll also ignore how different the animals we raise now are from what they were originally.
Journalists should know better than to conflate party names with liberal/conservative. Fetterman is a Democrat but he's conservative.
- Yes, the guy who was first to endorse Bernie in 2016, the guy who talked about M4A and all the progressive talking points… he’s a real conservative.
  
  He’s an opportunistic guy, sure. I don’t think we can say what he actually believes.
There are many interesting questions surrounding cultured meat, but I’m mostly concerned with two of them.

Is it any good?

Is it reasonably priced?

There are lots of thought provoking discussions to be had, and I’ll be happy to read them, but the practical issues that impact me directly are the ones I care most about.
- Its literally the same meat, but guaranteed no parasites and shit.
  
  Not yet
What happened to free hand of market etc. God I hate hypocrites
According to Nature, the products begin with a small sample of animal cells, typically muscle cells, which are cultured in a controlled environment like a bioreactor. Provided with nutrients and a scaffold for support, these cells multiply and differentiate into muscle tissue over the course of several weeks.

Anyone know what the scaffold is made out of? The nature article is paywalled.
- I don't know specifically, but here is an infographic of the different types
  
  🤜🤛

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