Supreme Court will weigh banning homeless people from sleeping outside

Can't afford a home, probably gonna be illegal to be homeless. Guess they should just kill themselves then.

Fuck the modern conservative movement. No empathy for the downtrodden.

It is illegal to kill yourself.
- Born too early to enjoy fully automated luxury gay space communism, born too late to participate in affordable housing, born just in time to go to jail for conspiracy to commit suicide because living is too expensive.
- Canada has entered the chat.
- Guess they'll just rot in prison, then
The next step is blending them into a nutrient-rich slush that will be fed to people in workhouses
- Too much pork fat to be healthy
- That’s a very Soylent remark…
Get a load of this lib that doesn't know virtually every Dem-run city provides full-throated support for the cops and pushes anti-homeless policies.
You ever stopped a sweep, lib?
- Turns out it's still better to be homeless in a lib city than a conservative shit hole town.
- It's important to acknowledge the complexities of urban governance and the diverse approaches taken by different cities, regardless of political affiliation. While some cities may have policies that prioritize law enforcement and anti-homeless measures, others may take alternative approaches focused on community outreach, social services, and harm reduction. Each city faces unique challenges and adopts policies accordingly. If you have specific examples or cases you'd like to discuss, feel free to share, and we can explore them further.
I don't think this is just about conservatives, it's also about the owner class and their quality of life. But def significant overlap.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/apr/16/us-homeless-encampments-companies-profiting-sweeps
Revealed: how companies made $100m clearing California homeless camps Public spending on private sweep contractors is soaring across the state – and unhoused people allege poor treatment
This reminds of the gross, despicable private detention and private prison industry in America.
- They're connected. How many times can you get detained overnight and have your entire life belongings destroyed before you fight the police officer detaining you?
- these ghouls need to see some consequences. fucking libs.
Hate to brake it to you, the "progressive" movement doesn't have empathy either.
- Shhh. Adults are talking.
- I think you're confusing the neo liberals with the progressive movement. (Basically Clinton vs Bernie)
- *Break

Would these people rather homeless people break into places and sleeping inside? This seems like the only plausible alternative.

Of course they would. Homeless people aren’t criminals and they can’t make being homeless a crime, per se, so they just do as much as they can to drive them towards crimes. It’ll be safer to avoid being caught if they break in and can be hidden but if they do get caught it’ll be horrendous. They’ll put them in slave camps-I’m sorry, “jails” and away we go.
It is the most heinous shit imaginable and these broken monsters get off to it.
- I mean vagrancy is increasingly being criminalized directly.
Watch closely as they make providing shelter illegal as well (just like they made providing food illegal). The cruelty is the point.

That's right homeless, you can't sleep here. Just go home already.

Sounds like a great idea.

Of course, if it's a crime to be homeless, it's also a crime to force or coerce someone into commiting that crime.

I look forward to the officials and landlords responsible to be jailed for each crime they helped commit.

"No, not like that!"

As if we don't know how this Court will decide.

I will say I'm somewhat optimistic about this case. Yes the current supreme court has a heavy partisan lean, but I've seen some decisions from the court which my pessimistic side didn't expect to go the way they did.

I know this guy who goes to the New York state courthouse everyday to sleep. He doesn't even try to hide. He does it in an occupied court room during a trial, on tax-paid furniture.

And the dude smells like SHIT.
- it's a shame he doesn't have access to like, a shower or laundry or something.
- good, the judge deserves to smell some consequence.

"Let them sleep inside". paraphrasing Marie Antoinette. smh.

Where do we put them if every city, every village, every town lacks compassion and passes a law identical to this

This is why there needs to be a national effort around this, rather than this patchwork approach which often just (expensively&wastefully) moves the problem around without solving it.

we may have to start making excuses for the lack of terror

How's that old quote go again? "The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread."

This is probably the most prescient episode of Star Trek ever: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Past_Tense_(Star_Trek%3A_Deep_Space_Nine)

Basically Sisko and friends go back in time to America in 2024, where it's illegal to be homeless and they get put in an open air prison.

I slept in this town once when I was temporarily homeless. I was lucky enough to not be harassed by cops. Letting people sleep in public spaces doesn't harm anyone except landlords, the housing market, and the hotel/airbnb industry. How the fuck is an unemployed unhoused person supposed to eventually afford rent if they're fined for existing outside?

Have you considered the goal is to exterminate undesirables?

This seems like a no-brainer to me... though it probably isn't. Obviously you have a constitutional right to sleep, wherever you can make space for yourself. If these cities and downs don't want people sleeping outside, they need to provide indoor space for people who haven't actually committed crimes. We treat our criminals better than we treat our homeless.

fuck their laws, I think, is the ruling here. just fuck them completely. we do not have a society. your conscience is the only guide.

Something something, sanctuary districts, something something, Bell Riots. Almost on schedule. WW3 next, then first contact.

Unfortunately, due to a budget restriction, first contact has been canceled. Please accept our apology in the form of nuclear winter.

hey it's illegal to be poor, stop being poor m'kay, just stop

Belk Riots - September 2024

Bell.
But yes this seems exactly like the precursor to the Bell Riots...
- Had to look it up, Jesus that's a bit too on the nose.
  Alright, I need to finally watch Star Trek through and through.

They really love pushing buttons dont they

Oh easy, give them indoor housing
Okay then, why is the solution of making sleeping outdoors illegal bring debated by the highest court in the land? Why is the supreme court of the US even entertaining such an unethical proposition? Doing so is just the US abdicating responsibility for it's people, and intensifying and welcoming inequality. Why not debate starting housing programmes for people instead, so that people do not have to sleep outside in the first place?
Oh no poor people existing where I can see them!? Better dehumanize em
Given these people have nowhere to go why not set aside some public land that allows long term encampments or maybe if it’s a concern about the safety of these encampments, the government could acquire an empty office building and retrofit it with modest accommodations for these peoples.
Or you could just admit it’s not about helping these people it’s about making them go away.
- Those are both reasonable solutions and I'm not arguing against them. I just pointed out that this fight isn't about banning homeless people from sleeping outside. It's more nuanced than that.
It's not your existence that's the issue, my friend, it's the fact you exist in the same Earth as me...
It is sleeping outdoors. There is no mention of it only applying to long term encampments.
- If these things are gonna be so big to the rest of us when they're posted, they really should have a lot more detail.

Homelessness is a lifestyle choice

The amount of people who down votes without watching the video is non-zero. Also, it's incredible the amount of people who don't realize or understand this comedy bit or that it's a criticism of something an actual home secretary really said.
- I'm not against posting videos but the person should explain what it is. The comment is basically click bait.
- Not for nothing but I live my life trying not to watch videos I don't have to
- Downvotes don't bother me, it's a silly measurement anyway because it's so opinion based and most people's opinions are wrong ;)
Vicious, ignorant nonsense.
Edit: it’s from the video
- You should have watched it before commenting.
  EDIT: Never mind, I'm a moron.