Trump wants to debate Biden 'immediately' — but president shrugs him off
Trump wants to debate Biden 'immediately' — but president shrugs him off
"Well, if I were him I’d want to debate me too. He’s got nothing else to do.”
Why is Trump so afraid of debating Nikki Haley first?
What a pussy he is.
Don't forget. Back in 2016, before the Conventions, Trump challenged Bernie Sanders to a debate. Bernie jumped on the idea, and Trump ran away from his own challenge.
He knew Bernie would have DESTROYED him in a debate
It's a shame it didn't happen...maybe, just maybe, if Bernie had trounced Trump in a debate, there wouldn't have been that whole Bernie is unelectable/would lose to Trump idea floating so strongly, and it might've given him a better chance in the primary either time.
I’ll seriously consider debating you once - no, I’m sorry: IF - you win the Republican Primary.
Can you imagine how fucking infuriating that would be to Trump?
I agree it would completely melt him down
This is about legitimatizing his run for president. He would never actually show up.
He should instead offer to debate Haley. That would make Trump explode.
Oh fuck, please please please let this happen.
"Since you sat out all those Republican debates, we thought you weren't interested. Sooorry"
That could actually be an interesting debate.
He shouldn't agree to debate Trump on the grounds that he's not qualified to run for president, given that he plotted an insurrection.
Plotted, and executed. He just didn't succeed.
I'm not sure it will ever behoove Biden to take a position on this. Last time he was asked I think he answered that it didn't matter to him.
If Biden comes out strongly and says he is ineligible, it's just tempting SCOTUS to disagree, and have all the morons say he is scared of Trump. And obviously he won't come out and say he is eligible because that would be stupid, counterproductive and wrong.
It's not right either. The sitting President shouldn't use his bully pulpit to put his thumb on the scales of justice.
Its a simple thing. No sitting president has debated a primary candidate. Its as simple as that. There have been upsets before in the nomination process so you don't do it. R or D, its a simple strategy that you just don't do.
Do we keep forgetting that Biden already beat Trump? The idea that he would want some unknown entity instead of the guy he already beat is just dumb.
He is so transparently desperate to put Haley in the rear-view mirror.
And he's already told us what he's going to do to get out of debating with Biden: He's going to insist that none of the traditional debates be held and instead they all must be Trump campaign events hosted by his sycophants rather than independently run debates. When he doesn't get his way he's going claim Biden didn't want to debate him.
And who's going to swallow that story? The same kind of people who would vote for Trump to begin with.
it's never a debate. I've never seen one that was a debate. Trump would ignore the questions, say edgy shit and get laughs, and basically win
Biden is right to not platform an insurrectionist
"Will you shut up, man!"
No one should ever debate Trump unless the moderator has a "shut the fuck up" switch to cut off the mic. That dumbass has a diarrhea firehose for a mouth, and no self control or manners.
I'd prefer it if all candidates had their own sound proof booth. Cut the mic and activate the window blur/block the millisecond they go over time, go off topic, deflect or just spew mouth diarrhea. And make sure it's locked, too.
And a fact checker that will interrupt blatant lies.
Trump says things that are incorrect and asserts that reality is a lie.
Make it a loud airhorn sound.
"I will ...." HOOOOOONNK
For far too long people have been under the illusion that politicians try and debate in good faith and to some extent certain politicians do - Biden will spin facts into a better light or down play some issues; that's politics, right? But Trump is everything bad in politics and perhaps humanity, all wrapped into one. To give that a microphone is bad enough, but to think you can "debate" such a thing, should be someone's first and last mistake. It's pointless because there's no new perspective for Trump to bring to America's current situation; Biden knows this. In many ways, you either vote against Trump because you know what he is, or you vote for Trump because you believe what he wants you to know; he only brings "alternate facts," and again, Biden knows this.
"I don't debate insurrectionists, jack"
Debates aren't part of the election process, they're part of the entertainment process. And if Biden doesn't agree to do the age-old Three Debate monkey dance, the Undecided Voter will grow angry and support the Fun Candidate instead.
Or, at least, that's a theory. There's another theory that debates are dumb nerd shit that nobody who hasn't already made up their minds watch anymore. And - much as a bunch of Senators and Governors have refused to debate during safe election years - Biden's refusal to meet Trump on national TV will actually make him Cool and Based.
It's not even "dumb nerd shit" these days. Current "debates" are little more than ways of generating soundbites. The moderators don't do moderation and they refuse to cut mics for those who aren't up. It's entertainment and propaganda/campaign marketing, not debating.
you can't beat trump in a debate really. he will shit everywhere and his supports will guzzle residues. what's the point.
I agree, my political theories of what is popular in the general public is based on sigma edits. Say something dumb but put phonk or synth wave music in the background and I will agree with you.
Edit: I now support Serbian war criminals
Oh good. We're at the "debate me, bro" phase. Love to see it. Lol
I sincerely hope Biden never takes a single debate with him, because it would be an absolute clown show, and that's exactly the kind of chaos Trump's brand thrives upon.
Trump lost every general election debate he has been in, including two against Biden. I don't know why people forget he's actually really bad at staying on message and declaring succinct points in response to specific questions, especially when he gets riled up.
That's true, but people in his camp want a spectacle, an entertaining show, not policy plans and actual governance. Putting Trump up there with Biden gives him implicit credence that he's worth debating, while Biden will be the punchline of his boorish antics.
It's true that he would lose every debate point, yet he would still come out on top because of the giant figurative megaphone he would get.
Because he makes a spectacle and enough sound bites to get the press and his supporters talking.
He makes noise, they like that he makes noise, so they like him. They dont care too much about what the noise is.
It's not really a debate when your opponent's metrics for winning is simply to speak more loudly, more aggressively, and to refuse to shut the fuck up more intensely than anybody else in the room.
Or my personal fav, lurking behind your opponent to try and weird them out and throw them off their game.
Okay, but that's basically every debate. Hell, that's the optimal strategy in a crowded field. Meekly sitting in the back with a pile of spreadsheets that say "I'm right" on them does nothing to galvenize public support for your policies.
Even then, Biden refusing to meet Trump on stage won't discourage Trump from doing his whistle stop Beer Hall tour. At some point, I think liberals lose sight of how important big crowds of people cheering at your approach is in a popularity contest. When Biden shows up at an event, he's greeted by a few dozen angry protesters, calling him Genocide Joe and waving big blown up pictures of dead Palestinian children. When Trump shows up at an event, he's greeted by a few dozen enthusiastic supporters, calling him the New Messiah and waving big blown up pictures of drowned children in the Rio Grande with "Win One More For the Gipper" scrawled across it.
Totally different energy at these events. Totally different reception by the party's base voters.
If Biden wants to position himself as the "Guy Who Will Protect You From Trump Who Is Worse", he's going to have to get out in front of an audience, side by side with Trump, and remind everyone of the distinction. Otherwise, he's just running in a vacuum as a mediocre President during an economic upswing, and hoping people give him credit for a rising stock market without blaming him for his party's failure to deliver on any of their major platforms in the last 40 years.
The guy who refused every debate until now?
Trump would refuse debates if given a neutral moderator. And I promise if he did a single debate he’d complain it was unfair no matter the outcome.
Sounds like he wants some free advertisement. The judges are shutting him off in the courts.
He'd BOTH complain it was unfair AND declare himself the winner.
And he'd do it days before the actual debate even occurs.
Why give any more credibility to a pathetic loser fascist? He's doing just fine comparing himself to Elvis.
"I've been called a master debater by many people."
"They were calling you a masturbator you dipshit."
Honestly I would do it, then invite the secret third contestant Nimarata Nikki Haley, and let the two of them kick each other's ass, while Biden just eats popcorn in the middle (or smokes crack takes a dab like in the meme)
My brother in christ, he is taking a dab not smoking crack.
I like you. Have you asked the prez for a cabinet position? Seems you could probably do a better job than his curgent batch of miscreants.
What specific members of Biden's cabinet do you consider a miscreant? Can you even name 3 of them without looking it up.
Life does not stop and start at your convenience, you miserable piece of sh*t.
Okay... that is a baller line.
"nothing to do but defend himself in court" would have been better
Glad Biden didn't take the bait, all debating him at this point would do was help cement the idea that Donald Trump is THE definitive Republican candidate
I mean, he will be, unless we get to shut him down in court. Then he's going to run the biggest write in candidacy ever seen.
I'm torn. On one hand, debates should take place to show knowledge/professionalism/action plans, etc. Also, it showcases (yet again) what a fucking idiot he is. On the other hand, he hasn't done a debate so far for this presidential race, so why start now? It's been nice hearing about him slightly less.
Also....how the fuck are debates not somehow mandatory to end up in the presidential race?
On the other hand, he hasn't done a debate so far for this presidential race
It is way too early for R vs. D debates. Why would Biden debate him? Biden is handily beating Dean Phillips. Trump needs to defeat Haley first. It's not Biden fault Haley is still in it.
At this point, the only ones debating/wanting to debate are the losers.
A debate would legitimize Trump. Good call.
Look at this shit:
Biden dismissed the idea.
“Well, if I were him, I’d want to debate me too,” Biden told reporters at a boba shop in Las Vegas when asked about Trump’s challenge. “He’s got nothing else to do,” Biden added.
Biden cares so little about this. Trump is like "please debate me bro" and Biden's in Vegas getting a boba tea. You can hear the sunglasses he's wearing and the smile on his face. Trump is desperate and Biden doesn't think about Trump at all.
Edit: I forgot - Trump issued his challenge on the radio to some guy named Dan Bongino. No, I don't care who he is, but I do know Trump would rather be interviewed by a blond Fox TV anchor instead of a dude on the radio.
Trump is the only guy who lost influence by becoming President. He used to be prime time news. Now he's begging for a 1 hour slot on network TV.
Trying to overthrow the government will do that. He’s lucky (for now) not to be in jail.
Biden shows up to the debate wearing his aviator glasses and leaves them on the whole time.
let’s debate now! It’s 3am on a Tuesday! If he doesn’t show up in 5 minutes, I’m the winner!!
Agree to debate only if they pass the border/Ukraine bill
Have your saggy pumpkin tits debate each other, Donnie.
But I want to see him tell Trump to shut up again :(
I want to see Biden call him an Insurrectionist. Preferably to his face.
a spade is a spade, even if it's not proven in a court of law.
Be careful Joe! He's about to steal your pen!
Nothing except a whole boat load of court cases to deal with.
That's a pretty big boat 😂
Let me know when Trump's dementia addled brain challenges Biden to an MMA match.
Drumpf. When will we be free of this braying Jackass?
They've got a little pipeline with The Heritage Foundation and the Federalist Society and all the other little billionaire-funded think tanks designed to fuck over the common person and funnel ever more money to the very richest of society while the world burns.
“Well, if I were him, I’d want to debate me too,” Biden told reporters at a boba shop ... “He’s got nothing else to do,” Biden added.
Does it go against ethics and standards to step on Dark Brandon’s dis track like that?
How about a geriatric boxing match
Congratulations America, we have 2 old, white men running for President....AGAIN...
Are you... new here? George Washington was elected at age 57. It took until 1850 for there to be a president who was born in the 1800s. It took until 1961 for a president to be born in the 1900s.
Donald Trump is older than both Bill Clinton and George W. Bush. Before them we literally had presidents born in the 1920s. Reagan was born before WW1!
Obama was the outlier. Fucking vote in every election if you don't like it.
First Gen Z president coming sometime between 2050 and 2060, got it.
Oh, I'm voting...I'm just reminding people that both sides are guilty of the same shit. The Left complains and criticizes lack of diversity within the political world, but are doing the exact same thing....nominating, supporting, and voting for some old, wealthy, white dude.....
Right or wrong, a president can't skip debates. That's a non-starter, no matter who he/she's debating against.
Having said that, it would be an absolute shit show both ways, one struggling to talk coherently, the other ones spewing epic levels of bullshit, and most likely nothing of value coming of it at all.
But stil, having a presidential election without any debates would be the final nail in the coffin of America, as it's supposed to be.
Right or wrong, a president can’t skip debates.
Why not? There is no law requiring participation to be on the ballot. Strategically its a bad move. Morally it's a bad move.
Why not?
Because we Citizens need ways to evaluate the people who are running for office to decide which one you want to give her a vote to.
Name one presidential election cycle where no debates were done in modern times.
Morally it’s a bad move.
It would be immoral for someone running for office to not put themselves up for evaluation via debates. No one is owed blind loyalty.
So sick of this BS… every presidential debate in my lifetime has been a sham. Biden should still should still do it though! No expectations of an actual debate, just point out he’s not answering any of the questions. Mock his rambling nonsense…
We dont need to see 2 senile pedos lying on television
Continuing the myth that Biden is senile when he's simply just tired and has a speech impediment undercuts just how actually senile Trump is.
There is no upside to Biden debating him. Trump will just spout nonsense to get sound bites
Biden is like Trump's kryptonite. Trump always tries to get in the other guys head.
Can't get in Biden's head...Bidens not in there, good luck dude
Lmfao
That guy has the BEST impersonation I've ever seen, it's repulsive! Not just the voice, but the hands, the sucking air through the teeth, the head tilts and mouth movements, all spot-on. You know how you have to wonder about the mental state of horror game/movie artists looking at reference material all day? Same feeling about Shane Gillis.
Mark Twain
You spelled lies wrong
There is a distinction between nonsense and lies though, and it’s not intent. Trump nonsense is closer to just insanity and dementia than lies. For telling lies, first you have to make sense.
Even his lies don't make sense at this point. They are just incoherent rambling that is indistinguishable from his "normal" incoherent rambling.
https://www.twitch.tv/trumporbiden2024
Biden declining is a win for Trumps fans though
But will that really change anything?
He wants to do it to appear as the clear Rep nominee. He doesn't get to step over Haley if Biden's not down.