In addition, modern historical research is proving that the idea of American presence in Vietnam wasn't as terrible as previously thought while also proving that the North Vietnamese and Viet-Cong weren't as noble as most people think.
Goddamn the bootlicking. Also, what kind of mealy mouthed phrasing is “the idea of American presence?” Is this some sort of “in our hypothetical, Vietnam becoming a puppet state of America would’ve turned out okie-dokie” nonsense?
Look sweaty, dropping more bombs on them than the allies dropped on Nazi Germany wasn't enough, you just don't understand but if america had just dropped more bombs it would have worked! They just didn't kill and maim enough people! Too many babies were being born without birth defects! They were able to walk through their fields without fear of unexploded ordnance blowing them up!
Saying bay of pigs didn't go far enough is funny because using it as a metaphor has been literally the only thing that has gotten a couple liberals I've talked to to see there's more to ukraine than "Russia is literally just evil and wants to take over the world" because America's justification for everything its done to Cuba is russias justification for what's happening in Ukraine, except its actually real in the later case.
Usually in cases like these I assume it's ignorance; but here we're talking about people that proudly call themselves "neoliberals" (in fact I still can't believe that sub exists and isn't a dunk sub) so I'm gonna say both.
I'd have voted yes for Vietnam given that I'm from South Vietnam.
IIn addition, modern historical research is proving that the idea of American presence in Vietnam wasn't as terrible as previously thought while also proving that the North Vietnamese and Viet-Cong weren't as noble as most people think.
I just can't find an appropriate response to this. I just can't.
Of course it is, for them, a ground war that doesn't have any accusations of war crime getting hurled at it is like. Pre-gaming for them. Foreplay before the main event. Source: have you seen the way they were pumping their murder-bones over Ukraine and Israel?
I know "no war but the class war" is just a reductive slogan but goddamn sometimes I just don't have the energy to argue with these chuds. Exhausting people. Moral black holes.
True words spoken. It's like running into a person that doesn't bother with the "libertarian" euphemism and self identifies as an anarcho-capitalist. The warning siren music from Kill Bill starts to play in my head and I nope outta there.
It's pretty wild how neolibs are still convinced that 90% of Russia's military has been wiped out and that Ukraine has been kicking their ass. Westerners are masters of delusion.
Rage, rage for these people saying "People who don't support Kosovo intervention just don't know what it's about." And the clown who said that Grenada made a national holiday to support the US invading and overthrowing their communist government. Gee I wonder why the government installed by the US would celebrate that?
Has the US intervened in the Yemeni civil war outside of arms sales? Obviously it’s still bad that America is supplying the Saudis but I thought it was limited to that
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