Pigs have a deeper raltionshionship with their slop
The consumption is the point. They just want candy not a meal. They want fucking marvelslop not Cinema.
Inb4 let people enjoy things, the mindset on display is a perfect member of capitalist society. A mindless consumption machine.
Please be fucking normalllll and yes let people enjoy things
Don't hate on fans and Marvel's popularity because the movies lack cinematic sophistry or is artistically stagnant
Hate because it's propaganda and infests people with
Art consumption is a form of literacy and the vast majority of people are functionally illiterate. This makes capitalist propaganda easy and communist propaganda harder.
Edit: I still don’t blame people for consuming their slop, though. The anti-capeshit vs let-people-enjoy-things discourse is just the most inflammatory version of much more interesting conversation.
i reserve the right to also be a hater in matters of taste.
but ultimately i do not begrudge garbage fans their garbage.
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They just want candy not a meal. They want fucking marvelslop not Cinema.
shrug I don't know why you need to get on people's cases about this. They're equating this to cheap candy bars, ffs. They know. We know they know.
Inb4 let people enjoy things
But you still should. There's no point in ragging on folks for liking a thing you don't like, even if we can say that it's cheap and lazy and bad at an objective level.
Given how the franchise has slumped since Infiniti War, it feels like you're kicking a dead horse. The production of these films is getting slowed down as their ratings tank out. "The Marvels" brought in a pathetic $6.6M its opening day. The Barbie Movie and Oppenheimer both proved people are interested in different slop. Finding the last guy on Reddit who is still into this shit and yelling at them... like, why, bro?
Have to say, though - very disapointed we got Monica Rambeau but it's not Nextwave.
I'm still enjoying the Miles Morales Spiderverse movies, more than anything because the art direction is so good.
But it hurts to see quality characters wasted like this.
Wait is this film also US military propaganda like the first Captain Marvel?
It's Marvel, so probably. But I think it was more about tying in a bunch of Netflix properties.
When did we all start "consuming" everything? I've never consumed a media in my life. I've watched a lot of movies and tv shows. I've read a number of books, magazines, and newspaper articles. I've played lots of games. But why do people insist on using capitalist slang to describe their own habits. It's bad enough they call everyone "CONSOOMERS" for everything in state media, but why bring it on yourself too?
Hard agree. I hate how the words “consume” and “content” are excessively used
I disagree, they are perfect words for describing capitalist commodities and our mindless absorption of them as a society. To use other words would be to conceal the fundamental truth of their use and our relationship to the world as capitalist subjects. Capitalist subjects consume commodities, they slurp the whole world up until nothing is left. Accept what we are don’t hide it
Movie nerds when someone says their favorite film is "The Avengers" and not a 7 hour silent Bulgarian film with 0 discernable plot or characters
Edit: marvek is slop
Tarkovsky vs American cinema is a really good way to show the hollowness of culture under capitalism.
A movie with no discernable characters would at least be kind of interesting if it was still live-action
if somebody's favorite movie is the avengers they're a child
Death to America
I dont watch movies
Everybody is sincere posting about people enjoying stuff. But nobody's talking about how you could possibly feel satisfied after eating a whole bag of candy, instead of feeling like dogshit.
Those small bags of crisps they have in Asia > disgusting Western 300 grams Lays.
Americans have way too much sugar, I was talking to a yank irl and he said he would have over a liter of soft drink a day. ????? I honestly thought he was joking.
Also, I know Brits put sugar in tea (gross, but you do you), and then I had American tea. What the actual fuck.
Also, I know Brits put sugar in tea (gross, but you do you)
you're supposed to have sugar in tea proportional to the extent your job involves manual labour. It's a weird custom that dates back to when tea replaced alcohol as the drink of choice and then loads of people suddenly were missing the caloric content of alcohol
I don't put tea in green or black loose leaf, I find I kinda need to for English Breakfast or Earl Grey. It tastes off, the sugar really brings out the flavor I think.
Coming back to the thread later, I think you’ve identified it. The way they compared it to gross American dietary mentality is what puts it over the top.
I don't care that he has a lack of artistic interest in film. I'm glad the movies make him happy
that said I do hope that the recent marvel failures results in an end to the trend of everything being a cinematic universe
that said I do hope that the recent marvel failures results in an end to the trend of everything being a cinematic universe
The studios will probably give it a rest, and then bring them back with a plan to run them for the exact amount of time for a maximum profit - like all those Netflix shows getting dropped after two seasons.
I don't think it's so easy. Marvel started the MCU in an exact right way the first time and every other studio that tried failed. I don't think they could do it again
especially with people already cinematic universe fatigued
Personally, I'm on the "don't be an asshole" side of things when it comes to people with very awful, but ultimately harmless taste in entertainment.
But also enjoying slop is not an identity. If it really hurts your feelings when someone dunks on you for legitimately enjoying Spiderman XXVI: A Megaverse at Home or whatever it was called, then you should probably take a closer look at the unhealthy way you're internalizing your connection to media consumption.
I wouldn't partake in dunking on someone for that, mostly because I kinda get it. I also like to shut my brain off every once in a while and enjoy mindless fast-foodified entertainment slop, but if someone wanted to roast me for it I'd probably laugh at myself with them. (Note: I always pirate that shit, I wouldn't be caught fucking dead paying for it and I will always relentlessly mock pay pigs for being some of the most boot addicted people on this Earth)
the media people consume influences/reflects their personalities and attitudes. if you are consuming something 'just because others are consuming it' it betrays a lack of critical thinking, and a kind of bandwagon effect attitude. if people are 'literally addicted' to Marvel then it is by your own admission very problematic. the solution to addiction isn't to just keep letting the addict use without any effort to control and reduce usage. that 60% of their conversations could ideally be used for something beautiful or useful, but instead is squatted by bland, meaningless, corporate garbage with zero artistic integrity or cultural value. corporate slop is, let me be perfectly clear, a weapon of psychological warfare forced upon the masses by corporate media campaigns. media isn't some kind of utopian democracy where the 'best' thing or 'naturally/objectively most popular' thing 'wins' the grand popularity contest; media attitudes are manufactured by marketers and inflicted on the public via expansive and expensive propaganda campaigns.
its not that these are 'bad people' (as if the opinion of random internet posters would matter in that regard), its that they exhibit what some leftists consider to be problematic behavior and thought processes. and since they are not on this board to have their feelings hurt we use the format of 'dunking'. this is a trait not unique to hexbear but common to english language, where the fundamental misattribution error is basically baked in to the syntax and grammar.
like yeah, we're not going to write a marxist essay for every marvel enjoyer analysing their plight and oppression. these treats are mostly for rich white suburban kids and their parents, marvel enjoyers are not some oppressed minority yearning to be free of the yoke of hexbears telling them they like silly mindless shit. we are going to dunk on them like we do for EVERY SINGLE OTHER example of problematic thought or behavior.
just like we don't pearl-clutch over nazis or cops or liberals that support genocide, who were 'just victims of propaganda and society' (which is true!), we don't pearl clutch over this kind of problematic mindlessness either.
media consumption is not some kind of sacred event that cannot ever be criticized in another, we are allowed to draw conclusions, even critical and negative ones, from the behaviors and attitudes of others.
dunking'. this is a trait not unique to hexbear but common to english language, where the fundamental misattribution error is basically baked in to the syntax and grammar.
Good point
I wonder if when Marvel introduces Captain Israel (I've no idea what her name is; she's IDF too) if she'll have as part of her backstory that she participated in the genocide of Palestinians happening right now; maybe she can attack a random brown family in America when she sees that one of them wears a Palestinian scarf (as some zionist person attacked a (Sikh) dad (who was wearing a Palestinian scarf) holding his kid, throwing hot coffee at him and allegedly saying she hoped his kid would burn in an oven).
The Palestinians will have superpowers provided by an evil god (Allah) and they need to feed off the souls of pure white Israeli babies for fuel
I'm morbidly curious as to how bad this movie is going to be, it was already filmed before the actors' strike but is apparently going to see extensive reshoots after test screenings
tbh the latest quality of the marvel movies and the hate female superheroes are getting from the fanbase a captain Israel movie might make people like Israel less
That's fine, though? A big part of relaxing is just turning your brain off and embracing your inner potatoe. There are certainly many people that deserve your criticism, but this one seems like a self-concious statement that the person just wants dumb slop, like 90s action movies or whatever
Honestly agree with the second comment because modern trailers basically spoil movies, and a ton of reviewers just write complete trash. Like sure I'll look at rotten tomatoes scores just to check that what I'm going to watch isn't complete nonsense, but I'm not going to read a review written by someone that might not even understand the movie themselves. See the original reviews for Starship Troopers, the reviewers completely missed the entire point of the film. Media literacy has never been great, and it's honestly been at an all time low in the past few years.
The difference is that I probably won't find superhero slop or Prestige TV slop entertaining/fun though. Honestly tuned out of the superhero movies after Age of Ultron. They're not really movies anymore, just really long series episodes with a large gap in between.
hexbear being extremely normal about media consumption again
They've been left near-tasteless by the education system and the media. They don't have the receptors in the metaphorical organ/brain to taste anything beyond the slop sadly. Like they only can taste salt, grease, and sweet. And everyone telling them the figurative McDonalds isn't good enough is an alien to them.
I'm still gonna take the bait and enjoy it, I'm just not going to be fully satisfied.
as a non-native speaker it's still crazy to me that the word 'consumption' is used about media
Moviegoers who VORE
If you don’t mind me asking, would you be ok with sharing the connotations of the word used in your native language regarding the “consumption”/“use”/ect of media?
I agree that the eating connotations of consumption are weird when applied to a movie.
you watch a movie, you read a book, you listen to music etc.
we have words equivalent to 'consumer' and 'consumption.' they're generally used for products and services, not media. and they don't have a connotation to eating. a 'consumer' can buy an apple, but we wouldn't use the word consume about the act of eating the apple.
These people should just get a lobotomy and spend the rest of their life in a skinner pleasure machine dripping dopamine into their useless minds
Bro what the fuck
It’s what they want. They don’t want to be challenged, they want 0 friction sugar hits for eternity. They dominate all cinema and art and culture and then even when it gets worse and worse in quality they keep going back. They have no literacy, no standards, no curiosity, so give them what they desire and spare us this dreck
Actually a really fucked up thing to say, not even from a treat defending perspective. There are actual people suffering with the consequences of forced lobotomization to this day, please rethink your comment, comrade.
I agree it’s a bad thing. I’m saying it’s the end point of this logic. Everything is candy treats for meeeee
wait that's an option?
Alright, maybe the good people of hexbear can help me with this.
I've been reading/hearing for years how people consuming shit media won't listen to the critics and just enjoy it. Scathing yet honest criticism will come with the notion that the thing isn't worth consuming, implicit or explicit. Are there really people going above and beyond to try to make people feel bad for the media they consume?
I'm sure there are some people doing that. I enjoy talking about movies, music, tv, etc and sharing my opinions on what I think is good or bad and why. Sometimes people take opinions as attacks, especially if they're big fans of something.
When is the “let people enjoy things” struggle session?
But tbf, I understand where the criticism comes from if you have a deep belief that media partially shapes reality
partially, being the key word. I’m not going to die on the hill that marvel brain is accelerating our decline into fascism. ::: spoiler spoiler Because the good guys always win in the end, they’ll die on that hill, not me. Spielberg told me so :::
feel like people value their criticism of media as though it is any less slop than the media itself. unless the criticism actually matters in some way - criticizing sexist tropes, the CIA being the good guys, working conditions of animation studios, or just the overt politics being espoused by the media - i don't really care whether someone else thinks the cinematography is fancy enough. the acting is unnatural? i'm autistic as shit, i act unnatural. a lot of this is really is just malding that other people do not value the same things in media, which gets sillier when its asceibed to some immaterial lack of fulfillment as though the only way to be fulfilled is to be obnoxious about movies.
i have never watched an MCU movie. i have watched every niel breen film. the latter is a favorite because i enjoy it explicitly as a social activity.
but yeah i also am generally critical of dunk culture as it seems to just further alienate people and i don't see how this mindset doesn't just further alienate someone from these lower-than-pigs subanimals that watch popular movies. and so i too get mired in the pointless dunks on people as we all get emotionally exhausted.
I just want to hear the dulcet tones of my gullet stretching to fit even more slop down at once
Just watch hextube for quality cinema
Movie just started
Without me it seems yall forgot how to have a good struggle session smh
Hexbear is my mindless slop
Honey! Time to look another Twitter screenshot in the dunk tank of someone repeating Zionist propaganda!
Don't know what the deleted comment was but your profile pic is a correct enough response anyway