Nazi Germany loses the plot

France, Germany, the US, and UK are all issuing official statements in full support of Israel's attack, and the US is moving some naval vessels to the ME to defend its little brother. Only China and Russia are going to oppose them on the UN security council.

How's it going "enlightened democracies"?

None of them want Iran to have nuclear weapons. They are probably fine with Israel doing the dirty work.
- Countries allowed to have nuclear weapons (or energy) check:
- Are anyone here fine with Iran having nuclear weapons? A fundamentalist dictatorship armed with nuclear weapons?
  Ignore for a second how Israel is reacting. Are anyone here fine with Iran having nuclear weapons?
  If you are, then please explain.
  If you aren’t, then please explain what you propose to do to avoid Iran having nuclear weapons.
We all know which countries are the real threat to peace and prosperity.

"If we support Israel with their very own holocaust we'll be even for what we did right?"

Two Holocausts don't make a right.

germany, consistently on the side of genocide.

The GDR (East Germany) formally recognized the state of Palestine and never had diplomatic relations with Israel. They also had military coordination with the PLO and supplied arms to Syria during the October 1973 war
- The bad guys won Cold War I, but I doubt they’ll win Cold War II.
Living in germany and having a brain is not nice atm.

Politicians when they were asked much earlier (last year?) about unprovoked Israeli attacks on Iran:

"Does Israel have a right to defend itself?"

"Yes"

"Does every country have a right to defend themselves?"

"Yes"

"Does Iran have a right to defend itself?"

"This is a very complex issue, and Israel has a right to defend itself"

If I were from the global South I'd pretend Western countries don't even exist and just work with China, which I'm glad to say it looks like Africa is doing just that. Africa has had some awesome leaders honestly (who France and America are desperately trying to overthrow).

it's like ok ok ok european gov'ts don't care about genocide because they're bloodthirsty lunatics ok ok ok whatever but ok

but ffs what about their finances/economy? germany/others are already fucked because they got cut off from russian gas. imagine iran shuts down the strait of hormuz? europe is going to be fucked

how they are not screaming for jewish supremacists to fuck off is beyond me.

and all of this is only to further get europe addicted to US shale. it's all so apparent and insane how do these idiots in power not see this?

honestly, european jews were always a stand-in for muslims (it's more complicated than that) to christian europeans, so i guess now that they can watch the wholesale slaughter of actual muslims, that base urge is satisfied
- It's why it's called antisemitism.

Fuck Germany for this and fuck Israel.

Iran is illegally building a nuclear weapon for illegal self defense and Israel is doing a Jack Bauer to stop them.

Obviously, Germany - a country with a long and storied history of liberal democratic values and anti-war principles - will come down on the right side of this conflict. There's no way they'd just align with a Middle Eastern Imperialist power looking to dominate and ethically cleanse a region of its native people.

In 2023, Germany said: “Confronted with an openly aggressive Russia, the importance of nuclear deterrence has increased for many states, including for [Germany].

Germany is one of five NATO members to host US nuclear weapons on its territory as part of a nuclear-sharing agreement. The German air force is assigned approximately 15 B61 nuclear bombs, which are deployed at the Büchel air base.

In 2016, Germany voted against the UN General Assembly resolution that established the formal mandate for states to commence negotiations on “a legally binding instrument to prohibit nuclear weapons, leading towards their total elimination”.

https://www.icanw.org/germany

Germany: Nuclear weapons are good actually
Also Germany: Ban nuclear power return to burning coal
Guess they don't like nuclear if it doesn't involve killing people
- (West) Germany never stopped being in favour of killing people.

France being famous for having disposed of all 290 of its own nuclear weapons, of course.
It's amazing how France and Germany seem to have the same view after US has been pushing the nuclear path. Feels like some play book is being acted out.
Didn't click on the link but based on the last 8 years, anything Macron says has a strong probability of being dogshit made to sound plausible and appealing to the end user.
We had chatgpt as president before chatgpt was the hype.
So whatever he wrote on the nazi social network, take it with a huge pinch of salt.

Israel has nukes - what about that Non-proliferation treaty Germany?

"He thinks words on a paper mean anything"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Versailles?wprov=sfla1

I have a bucket of blood. Do you think I took too much?
Always Sunny memes are perfect for modern international politics.
And I guess we're maybe all going to die because we keep letting idiots lead our countries.
I would get politically active to try to help, but that feels like Charlie work.

Albert Einstein was 100% correct. I am ashamed of the politicians in Germany who fail to learn the lessons from WWII.

German regime and their Nazi Nepo baby owners are pathetic

Implying they ever had the plot to begin with

Worse hypocrisy than "Russia has no right to defend itself". Prior to US led nazi coup in 2014, Russia and Ukraine had close economic/political ties, even as supposed Russian stooge President was exploring in good faith EU membership. Coup was designed to sabotage that relationship, with direct NATO/nazi threats to Russia.

Israel's relationship with neighbours and Iran has never been defensive. Europe's rulers always siding with US empire, even as US attacks it, is deeply traitorous. JCPOA process, appears to be the same EU deception as Minsk accords or 2 state solution Norway/Camp David BS. Germany, specifically has no chill between nazi and zionazi extremes.

What a fucking bunch of tools are germans

I think that Iran should have nukes and America should surrender all of theirs.
all countries opposed to the u.s.-led world order should have nuclear weapons
A nuclear armed Iran is the only check against zionazi expansion. They should have learned the lesson of Libya and pursued nuclear arms aggressively years ago.
After how US and Europe handled ukraine, you would have to be an idiot to not get nukes from geo political perspective.
Israel has nukes, Israel is the enemy of American people who cause us a lot more issues then Iran.
I really don't care if Iran has nukes. They prolly should so Israel quits trying to draw US into another war like they did with Iraq.
- Nuclear weapons don’t help anyone. There are already enough nuclear powers.
  I don’t understand your second sentence. Isreal is actually nothing but a proxy state of the US. Just like a nice little outpost. So US and Isreal are already big buddies. I very much believe that the US plays a very big role in this attack on Iran.
Why not? Surely they understand that nuking someone would lead to themselves being nuked in retaliation.

Iran with nuclear weapons is a nuisance for all ~~civilized countries~~ countries that want to bomb Iran with impunity
Thank God the pillar of stability Israel has nukes, though. They aren't aggressive like Iran, they're only at war with half their neighbors.
- you know why!

iran still executes gay ppl right?

Israel has executed orders of magnitude more gay people in the past six months alone
As a gay ppl: So what? You think this attack is going to advance quiltbag rights?
- Happy pride month! I feel a little silly saying happy given the current circumstances of the world, but I think we gotta press on or they win.
Killing innocent people will help save gay people. Dramatic logic.
Thou shalt kill those less liberal than us is a slippery slope. Neocon/neoliberalism all justify genocidal supremacism under rigged democracy. Geopolitics manufactures hate first, makes up reasons 2nd. There has never been any offer to Iran to decriminalize hedonism in exchange for anything.
Israel is executing gay people en masse.
Gay people still can't get married in Israel right? So these are both awful countries run by awful people. It just so happens that Israel is the aggressor.
One party being bad doesn't make the other party good. If we are lucky every single employed person both governments will suddenly drop dead.
Failed gotcha talking point considering that the main bulk of western Zionists are rabidly anti-LGBT, anti-reproductive rights, anti-evolution Christian fanatics who support Israel because they low key believe the existence of Israel is integral to the second coming. Also, not coincidentally the exact same crowd that voted in all the presidents who sponsored groups like Al Qaeda to push against the communist government of Afghanistan and other communist, socialist and secular movements in the region because birds of a feather work together and religious fanatics apparently get along when they need to and then betray each other because morals don't count if god is supposedly always on your side amirite.
And?