Shooting an unarmed woman who was just trying to walk home: just LAPD things

It was a rubber coated metal bullet fired at close range.

You do not shoot someone unless you want them dead.

Shit, as prior military we were taught you don't point your weapon at anything or anyone unless you're prepared to pull the trigger. The fact that all the others on that line had their weapons down, but this dude has his up the whole time, tells you all you need to know about the lack of training of that individual.
- Lack of training
  On the contrary, these pigs are doing exactly what the people in power want them to.
- We put too much stock in training here, for things that should be obvious. How do we know you shouldn’t do that? I haven’t had any police training.
  This is related to that “qualified immunity” bullshit. Somehow we let what could have been an appropriate thing turn into cops being above the law except in rare cases they were specifically trained for and there is existing case law. Bullshit. All too many of these look interesting headline cases start with “any sane person knows …” yet cops are above the law
- None of the other cops stopped him from firing his weapon at the innocent lady
Yeah, that was close enough to kill. She might have internal bleeding for all we know.

That is fucking nuts. If you have 50 police officers you do not need to shoot a woman who is VERY clearly not a fucking threat. Holy shit they treated her like she was carrying

My european brain could not handle why this would be the way to treat a pregnant person until I realized, that this might be about a weapon instead of a child.
The context might make this obvious for people who are more used to guns than babies, but I was very confused.
- My Canadian brain was in the same boat. I had to wonder if it was an joke about cops shooting pregnant people that I wasn't american enough to understand.
They kept shooting at her even when she was limping away crying and someone trying to help her. So being a threat I think was the least of their concerns. Seems more like they were enjoying target practice.

reminder that "non lethal weapons" are actually just "less lethal weapons". rubber bullets, tear gas and tasers absolutely can and have killed people.

I was wondering, if someone shot rubber bullets at a cop, would they be charged with attempted murder or assault?
- In America, you can be charged with murder if the piggly wiggly arresting you works too hard and has a heart attack.
  https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/charges-dropped-guatemalan-farmworker-death-sheriffs-officer-arrest-rcna141681
  So shooting anything at a cop is most likely summary execution at the scene.

No way I could be a cop. If I was standing in line with those guys and saw my coworker shoot a girl close range I'd punch him in the face. This is what people mean when they say ACAB. There's no way a decent person can see a woman get shot like that and not want to help.

I could never date a cop either. Imagine the type of harm and harassment they could unleash on you if you broke up with them.
I wouldn’t even be friends with a cop.
- I'm polyamorous. I won't even date someone who dates cops.
- I've known two people that were briefly cops. They got out around one to two years doing it. That's about how long you can be a cop before the other cops expect you to mutually get your hands dirty.
- I wouldn’t even be friends with a cop.
  I absolutely won't be friends with one. They have a dangerous mentality of escalating non-violent situations into violent ones, and they'll never admit when they are wrong. Not the type of people I would ever want to associate with.
If I was standing in line with those guys and saw my coworker shoot a girl close range I’d punch him in the face.
You are right, no way you could be a cop.
- I could, I'm morally dubious enough to ignore it. Then hand out coffee spiked with arsenic.

Hollywood needs to pump out more REAL cop shows, where they show how cowardly, fat and racists cops are.

But when Hollywood did, nobody wanted to actually talk about Rampart.
- Haha holy shit rampart. What a dumpster fire of an ama.
  For those that are curious Web search
  Rampart Woody Harrelson ama
- I don't know, it seemed like at least one person wanted to talk about Rampart (exclusively).
The only things that can get made here anymore are commercials and corporate slop. Need funding for film and TV so some real shit gets made not just the usual garbage
The purpose of Hollywood is entertainment and helping out manufacture consent (not necessarily in that order), not raising awareness on subjects were people's increased awareness would threaten the power of the elites, so when it comes to the minions of the elites it's pretty much all either "Heroes of Justice" (with a side of "anything is acceptable in the pursuit of Justice" or, at most, "Most are Good Guys but there's a few bad apples".
That's actually what Hollywood did until the red scare. Hence the "keystone cops" of early cinema.

Maybe not every single one of them will shoot an unarmed civilian, but all of them just stood by and did nothing.

Verdict: ACAB.

It would be funny if one of them arrested the shooter on the spot

Person who took this video is an actual hero. I don't want to imagine what could have happened to that woman without them.

Also: don't make the mistake of looking at the replies to this on Twitter. I forgot just how bad it was, but nearly every top reply is by verified accounts trying to justify this somehow. It's actually insane to me the complete lack of empathy these people show - past party lines and political differences, isn't this obviously a bad thing that shouldn't have happened?

It's a Nazi bar. Don't expect reasonable posts from Nazi's. There is no cross party lines with them.
- I abandoned Twitter for Mastodon a few months after Musk bought Twitter. I figured I'd keep the account around to DM people who there, just in case my need to do so arose. Then I kinda forgot about it. Cut to a few months ago I sent a message to someone on a different service. I knew they were doing a project, but I politely asked them "hey, do you have the interest and time to do xyz?"
  They said "I'm sorry, I'd normally love to, I'm just really busy right now and don't have the time; you probably know I'm doing ABC myself." And that was legit. But they added "Also, you should know I generally don't work with people who have Twitter accounts anyway, for future reference."
  Initially I was "But wait, I don't USE it..." But I took a few minutes to think about it. I mean, he wasn't wrong. I DID have an account at the Nazi bar... And I don't use it. It just lends my name to the service for no benefit to me. And that's why I decided to download my data and delete my account. Sometimes calling people out (in a helpful way,) can be a positive.
  And that, dear reader, not necessarily the person I'm replying to but you reading this, is now me reminding you that you can delete your Twitter account and stop supporting the Nazi bar.
Also, I was thinking. These are the incidents that we are getting to see. How many will occur when someone’s not rolling the whole time.
That's what I wanted to leave here as well.
The coloured girl immediately overcome her fear, crossed the street very aware of her surroundings and defended that shot girl.
She observed the situation, decided to put herself into danger to assist this foreigner. Such a strong and lovely human beeing 💪.
I leave her my deepest respect. Whish I could give her a huge hug as a thanks.

Manufacturers of "less lethal" rubber rounds do not consider them safe at that range. They're considered very dangerous with a high risk of death within about 10 meters.

That's a seriously injured, unarmed, citizen and not only do they not lift a finger to help they seem to fire at the woman trying to help her.

You're also supposed to bounce them off the ground. Never a direct hit.
- I think you’re thinking of tear gas rounds. Trying to bounce rubber bullets sounds less predictable. But yeah, don’t shoot this close, especially not at a peaceful citizen.

Well, she might have been an undercover reporter, what choice did they have?

Obviously Hamas

AND THE LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND OF THE FREEEEEEEEEEEE AND THE HOOOOOOOOOOME OF THEEEEEEEE BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAVEEEE..........

Remember that part of your anthem America?

TBF you do have to be pretty fucking brave to live there.
- Or white
What? The land of the free? Whoever told you that is your enemy.
- Ah shit, the government is the one who said that...
The land of the fee and the home of the slave

I think it's because downtown LA had a curfew. But that's kinda bullshit because where else would this person go if she came home after working a night shift? Sleeping outside would also break curfew

She was a local resident trying to get to her home
- Yeah that's what I'm saying. These fucking pigs that don't even deserve to be on the same level of pigs

"Rubber" bullets are steel bullets coated in rubber.

And can easily break bones or maim if used incorrectly.
... or fully rubber or wood or foam or kevlar baggies full of lead or any combination of those.

Do they think they are using paintball guns? What's going on?

No cop has ever been held accountable for whatever bullshit they pull when they're in riot gear. They're basically anonymous and the worst that will happen is a civil settlement with the city (which won't even come out of the police budget!).
It's not like paintball doesn't hurt a lot from this range either...
- Have you seen the damage caused by their bullets? It's like using frozen paintballs, at the high end of allowed PSI, but the size of a golf ball. LA civilians rn are under hostile armed force. They need an armed resistance to take out the members of the police that do not act as police. They do not get punished. They just get deployed again.
  I know this is difficult. Non lethal weapons are harder to obtain than lethals, and the moment the resistance use lead is the moment the invading army do too.
Psychopaths want to bully and hurt people (especially "the libs" protesting), and there's no consequences for them.

Stories like this are why despise Biden and Obama so much. Both enthusiastically armed the police while pretending to support change and helped give them this sense of invincibility, and both had the power to make real change in policing but cared more about being reelected than doing the right thing.

Despite Obama’s “hope and change” promises the first time around, they were both status quo presidents who needed to ensure the dominance of the state above all else.
- But don’t you wish we had status quo now? I could go for a little stability and respect with a side of human rights and investment in the future
Didn't take long to tie actions under a Republican admin to Democrats. Par for the course.
- That's because these things do not happen in a vacuum, and if said Democratic presidents had made real reforms, the actions Trump is committing right now wouldn't be possible.

FUCK LAPD , ITS TIME TO REVOLT

https://revolt.chat/

As cop doing these things , how do you sleep at night ? When do you quit ?

According to them, very well. Dave Grossman traveled around doing police training for years and this was part of his training
In the widely shared clip filmed at one of Mr Grossman’s police training sessions, the former Army Lieutenant Colonel says: “Killing is just not that big a deal.” He then talks about an officer describing that they had the “best sex” after fatally shooting someone, before adding that it is a “perk of the job”
- That man is also personally a shite guy. Heavily abusive to his kid.
- Grossman
  What a fitting name
Pigs love rolling in shit. Responding to protest is a blank check to do whatever violence you want while being paid massive amounts of overtime.
All of the cops I've known personally are from very similar backgrounds, basically straight edged nerds with paladin brain. People who weren't necessarily bullied, but just perceived themselves as a tormented outsider. They want action, they want violence, and they think they are completely righteous in whatever they do because the badge makes them good guys.
Every cop is a looser wannabe Rambo, but was too chicken shit or lazy to actually join the military.
he is probably having a blast thinking he shot "one of them woke lib dems"

Punk-ass cowards. Trigger-happy pigs. Death to them all.

"rubber" bullets are supposed to be bounced off the ground to dissipate their energy before they impact someone

Rubber bullets are sold under the legal pretext that they’re acceptable to use in this fashion, while the manufacturer and the police department and probably every lawyer and judge in the country knows they’re just going to shoot at people.
That is for 37mm foam that splits on the ground to spread at the crowd, they are primarily using 40mm foam rounds with a metal core, if you bounce it off the ground it can rotate and impact with the hard plastic backing, which is likely how the UK journalist who required calf surgery was injured. It's specifically recommended not to bounce them but to aim near the naval, arms or legs.
There are so many different kinds of "less-lethal" kinetics and most modern ones aren't bounced off the ground.
Steel body armor has one use these days. Ceramic plates would break upon being shot with one of these, steel will not.

US is just North Korea, with internet

And a much wealthier upper class with better connections than some basketball star.

These people are not working for justice, they criminals

No. When they do it, it's legal.

Nothing unusual....

... for a country like Belarus....

Bastard should be fired

Jailed
There must be real consequences. We need leadership that actually has the balls to deal with this sort of trash.
/and no, I'm not holding my breath or expecting anything to actually happen
- Deed we do. Next election cycle will tell the tail
at
He'll probably get a promotion
- Firing is a promotion sorta

In 1992, LA had riots sparked by police brutality. Since then, the LAPD has striven to uphold the utmost standards in police work . . . lol, no, they made sure ACAB applies double to them.

Pigs.

Used to be only black people being treated like this. Now we have equality!

This is why the maga crowd is against dei

I better hear something from every other police force in the country if they don't want this as proof ACAB.

These cops are fucking scum and anybody who wears the LAPD badge should feel ashamed to be associated with them.

I used to live right by the un and my block was always closed 2ce a year. Security wouldn’t let me in to get home and I had to call the doorman to come and vouch for me. No one shot me but they were dicks.