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UnitedHealth secretly pressured nurses to change patients' records to include DNRs (Do Not Resuscitate) without their consent, so they would die instead of being saved with medical interventions

www.theguardian.com

Revealed: UnitedHealth secretly paid nursing homes to reduce hospital transfers

Fucking depraved. In a just world, every single person involved would get a one-way trip to

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lol remember when Obama tried to pass bare minimum legislation to slightly curb the worst predatory excesses of these butchers and all the hogs rose up en masse to defend them?
Conservatism is an open death cult (liberalism is more of a stealth death cult that doesn't show its true face until you've bought in for a few years)
- but death panels! an unelected board of bureaucrats might decide whether you receive care or not!
  but waiting times! You'll have to wait a long time to recieve your care!
- remember when Obama tried to pass bare minimum legislation
  no
- I remember when Obama passed legislation to force me to pay these butchers a lot of money, yes. That was great.
  
  Heaven forbid we do the bare minimum and offer a public option, that would be socialism!
- We can't reform the system or we might end up with death panels.
- Liberalism is a Death Cult - Hakim
  
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There aren't enough
- Unlimited italian plumbers brothers on ameriKKKa
damn i hope whoever is responsible for that gets shot
Tell me again how socialized medical care results in death panels?
The person who killed Brian Thompson committed an act of self defense. Nobody would have any qualms saying so if Thompson was randomly shooting people out on the streets, and then that person killed him. So why does that change when the murder weapon become legal forms?
- “There were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.”
  –Mark Twain, A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur’s Court
- Liberals don't recognize social murder.
- Economic violence isn't understood in western bourgeois democracy
History will look back on
kindly
- Yeah because Luigi didn’t do it.
he was a father of two children
- To quote Ice T
  I know your family's grieving, well fuck 'em
- Baby luigi and baby mario for them when
- China has the right idea.
  Throw the pigs in jail, make it simple. If these weak-minded hedonists let their love for money get the better of them, they are unfit to exist in society and belong in prison with other pigs.
- I honestly think they're only being investigated because of the public reaction to Thompson's death. It's a consolation prize to calm everyone down while business continues as usual.
the title of the Guardian article is weirdly subdued, considering what follows. There were UnitedHealth staff physically on-site to prevent people from receiving care.
- Western capital controlled media in a nutshell. They always find ways to subtly downplay the absolute fucking worst.
- Kim Jong-un comes to your hospital room and marks you for dead to save regime money.
At the least, that should qualify as manslaughter.
- Ima be real with you, UnitedHealth, that's literally murder.
- Not saying you're wrong or anything, but comments like these always feel like a colossal understatement to me, having been recently personally involved with the unfeeling horror of this healthcare system dealing with someone who is near terminal, and then terminally ill.
  As in, I don't personally believe it should qualify as manslaughter, I think it should qualify those responsible as irredeemable fodder you can freely slay without guilt. Like, faceless bad guy in a video game status.
  
  Health insurance companies are ontologically evil
  
  Chuck 'em in the meat grinder at a sausage plant feet first
  
  The horrors of healthcare in general are pretty bad.
  But this is basically directly saying "yeah kill this guy".
It’s legal to put out a hit on someone if you’re a health insurance company
10,000
upon the insurance industry, and 10,000 more for every day we have to wait.
health care prevention companies
wow that sounds really bad
That isn't exactly what the arrticle says, which is:
Two current and three former UnitedHealth nurse practitioners told the Guardian that UnitedHealth managers pressed nurse practitioners to persuade Medicare Advantage members to change their “code status” to DNR even when patients had clearly expressed a desire that all available treatments be used to keep them alive.
So we don't really know that it was ever changed without consent.
- Could you clarify how that deviates from the title? I'm having trouble seeing the difference here. I think the emphasis is on the word "pressure." They did not have consent.
  
  That would imply they didn't ask the people or went against their response. We don't rven know if or how many people they marked as DNR.
- The title of the post reads
  UnitedHealth secretly pressured nurses to change patients' records to include DNRs (Do Not Resuscitate) without their consent, so they would die instead of being saved with medical interventions
  Which is only slightly more terse way of saying the same thing.
  The only question to me is so what extent this is a "secret".
Whenever I have to pay medical bills, I pull up a picture of Brian Thompson doing that shit eating grin in a quarter zip so I can ask his ghost if it was worth it
The reason China will never have a Luigi Mangioni is because the people responsible for this would be put to death by the State
- CPC more like MPC (Mario Party of China)
finaly we have created the torment nexus from the classic scifi ~~don't create the torment nexus~~ Altered Carbon
Mistrial? Mistrial.
Insured murder
I mean Optum is a pretty unsecret thing in nursing homes. I think we've been through like 12 nurse practitioners over the last year and a half I've been working at a nursing home. We're told that if they're an Optum patient they need to be managed by them, but a solid amount of the time we're just going to the primary provider because they're nowhere to be seen because their entire local network is a shitshow. I also know they seem really averse to starting hospice or even having that conversation. I know they're super big about preventing hospitalization and treating in place, but I feel like if I just outright disagreed with a call made I could just speak to the primary provider or if I'm really concerned, override the NP, especially if they're not present in the building.
The examples they give of stroke like symptoms, if I'm on the unit and they clearly are having a stroke, I've already called 911 before I'm calling the provider to ask for orders. Unless they have a history of TIA I'd assume stroke and deal with the back and forth.
In the end there is that little nag from Optum asking you to call before a hospitalization, but there's also a level of nursing judgement that needs to exist with that thought towards patient health rather than an insurance company's nagging.
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- Calling the insurance provider to ask for orders????

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