As top Trump aides sent texts on Signal, flight data show a member of the group chat was in Russia
As top Trump aides sent texts on Signal, flight data show a member of the group chat was in Russia
Looks like Russia won the ideological war and will be exporting authoritarianism to the globe.
The main thing to remember about authoritarians is that none have ever been documented to be impervious to small pieces of metal moving at high speed.
It's too soon to say conclusively that they all aren't though, additional testing is required.
Note to self: before becoming dictator, develop natural immunity to small arms fire. Begin with BB gun?
surprisingly enough, they are in fact physically just like us: just meat
Surprisingly enough, it doesn't really stop them from trying, it only stops individual occurrences. And if the piece of metal only grazes, it often invigorates and galvanizes them
An additional note: for all the people who advocate this approach, very few have actually gone through with it. Perhaps it'd be more successful if all the people who advocate for it actually did it instead of trying to get other people to do it for them.
But they are known to dodge pretty well and only get nicked in the ear 😕
Are windows in too?
This isn't a nationalist idea .... the oligarchs have won and are exporting authoritarianism to the globe. Most or the majority of people everywhere just want to have a peaceful life whether they are in the US, Russian, China or anywhere on the globe ... it's oligarchs and wealthy morons that think they can manipulate everyone, everywhere all the time and allow them to become rulers of the universe.
Are they wrong?
i'll have you know that social contract that formed in russia after 90s looks just like that: citizens fuck off from politics in return for some prosperity. every time when russian state expected that that won't last due to things like 2008 crisis or covid or what have you, they started a war as a distraction and to rally around the flag some nationalists. now they're on 4th attempt, this one was due to post-covid recession. difference is, this time they were high on their own supply of propaganda and planned accordingly. they also can't back down because they see it as a weakness, and that would mean a coup
fuck
Nahhhh according to the tankies of .ml, Russia is just trying to export humanity-saving peace, love and socialism but has just been continuously beaten down by the big bad US :(
They been exporting since the 80'with trump
will be?
They already have — quite successfully.
Love the way THE BBC is trying to make signal sound like some hackers playset, really shows how much the UK gov hate encryption or people having any privacy at all.
It also goes to show that Signal may actually be worth its salt in regards to security.
You use Signal to avoid government surveillance.
I use Signal to avoid government accountability.
We are not the same.
Well I use it and have put it on relatives phones so they can communicate with me easily, ideally though I'd use Threema but yeah signals a lot better than other free alternatives.
Doesn't matter if the phone is rooted.
The UK is an utter shithole when it comes to privacy, always has been. It doesn’t look to be getting better any time soon either.
Are they?
No.
Graham Fraser: Technology reporter.
Signal, compared with other messaging apps, has added security features to protect the privacy of its users. Conversations on the app are end-to-end encrypted, which means they can only be read by the recipients. Signal can’t even read what has been sent. But security is only as good as the person using it.
Isn't hard to look up the BBC site, their pretty much making signal sound like an insecure hacking tool only used by dissidents.
Sounds like a bunch of traitors.
Are you just figuring that out now? Attacking all its allies is what did it for me.
The US is a captured state now, and there are only a few ways out; voting is not one of them.
Welcome to the party pal, most of us knew it was traitor town when "Russia if your listening" was said on national TV.
Independently verifiable detail number 28543 showing that Trump and everyone he has appointed are unfit for office, and that no one who voted for him will ever care about, and from which no consequences will ever flow.
I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters. -- Mr. Donald J. Trump
Could everyone please stop repeating "nothing will ever come of this" every time fucked up shit happens?
Until someone actually faces consequences, it's just people spitting truth sadly.
Man I don't have enough time in the day to be doing that.
I save my cynical outbursts for when he gets caught. And I have reasons, though you may not agree with them.
I think it's important not to lose sight of the fact that our government is incapable of dispensing consequences to this man, regardless of what he does, regardless of where his loyalties clearly lie, regardless of how he continually works at the destruction of the United States of America. So we're not surprised at where things are four years from Jan 21 like we were four years from Jan 06.
While we are all tempted by the complacent comfort of "someone in government will handle it" now that he's actually at the peak of his power, it seems key that we all remember "no one in government handled it" for four years when he was out of power and arguably at his weakest.
That encryption is not impenetrable, however, and the Google Threat Intelligence Group warned just last month of "increasing efforts from several Russia state-aligned threat actors to compromise Signal Messenger accounts used by individuals of interest to Russia's intelligence services."
This is somewhat disingenuous. Signal can't be directly cracked. Only access to the phone directly or via mirroring can expose it. The article somewhat explains this.
I am in no way whatsoever excusing the actions of these douche-chalupas. I prefer accuracy in my reporting, though. That said, Witkoff in Russia may as well have been a direct line to Putin.
This seems a bit too nitpicky tbh.
The author is correct, Signal is not "perfect", because the weakest link is always the endpoint device and the end user. Which is kind of the whole point of this article; The issue is not that Signal was used, as it's reasonably secure, it's that the people using it are not secure at all.
Oh, I'm definitely picking nits. I agree and said as much in my last comment. But the way the article presented it made it feel like there is a clear and present danger from Chinese and Russian threat actors against the protocol.
people using it are not secure at all.
And this is very much not limited just to signal. No matter what software, protocol or any other way you use to communicate, both you and the receiving entity/entities are the weakest link by a long shot. I don't expect even my closest friends to hold our everyday conversations secret if for whatever reason their wellbeing was threated in any way. And even if I did there's always other options, like targeted social engineering, to get trough pretty much any reasonable safety concerns on digital communication.
Of course in everyday life if our chat histories were publicly available it would not be too big of an issue, but it's still something worth keeping on mind when interacting over any digital or any other written medium.
Given the rest of their behavior I'm seeing that chat member leaning across the lunch table towards Putin's secretary, holding out his phone: "hey look, we're just about to bomb Yemen!"
may as well have been a direct line to Putin.
Was Mr Putin over his shoulder at the crucial moment, or just a state-run high-def camera?
почему не оба?
But it isn’t that hard to create a signal account with the name of someone high in the US ranks and send a request to these people. They are too dumb to actually validate the key of the person.
Encryption can’t handle when the encrypt with a foe’s key and send that for the message.
I'm sure that everyone, including trump will feel the full force of the law. The FBI will immediately investigate make arrest and punish everyone involved in this blatant act of anti-patriotism and treason.
Right?
These fucking fools, these incompetent baboons. Gods damn the whole lot of 'em.
You are assuming it wasn't puposeful. And clearly it's been going on a while. They only got caught due to their incompetence
Goons. Absolute apes
An insult to apes.
If the GOP had an iota, a molecule, a QUARK of integrity, the cabinet would be impeached en masse. They are a disaster.
It's almost incomprehensible. This is historical, it will be in history books in a hundred years.
I'm shocked....but I'm also not shocked. This has gotten to the point that you think they can't one up themselves and then they go and do it.
And they do so on a weekly basis if not daily
I'm looking forward to anyone using the word 'signal' around trump being suspected of mocking him.
Sensitive egotistical maniacs are so much fun to placate.
Full texts got released! See update on the Atlantic!
The Guy's name is putin.
Krasnov’s Daddy
Literally zero chance they weren't monitoring his phone while he was in the country.
Why monitor what he went there to inform them about?
*receive orders about
You jump to the assumption they weren't on an innocent beach holiday in Russia? You're paranoid.
Who's to say this member in Russia doesn't live there...
I wouldn't worry so much about monitoring the phone, signal does a good job.
I'd be more worried that they weren't just given the convo or managed to lift the multi-device QR willingly or subserviently.
Fucking traitor scum.
These people are incompetent on a scale barely understandable.
And it's so frustrating that they are not in jail.
I assume for that to happen, a significant portion of the American political system would be in trouble. It's not so much that Trump is some unique phenomenon, it's more like he's not subtle about it. We're being screwed every day by the leader class, they're just quiet enough about it that most people go back to their NASCAR and high-fructose corn syrup snacks.
I need something China for the bingo card
Jfc dude I'm dead 🤣
It looks like you're using an ad blocker.
Well, can't read that website.
Plasters some big dead thing from a website called "getadmiral.com" over the page that I can't remove.
I'm not sure if this helps, but I use uBlock Origin and Privacy Badger in Firefox and can read it.
Jesus fucking Russian assets...
The entire Government of Putin is a huge cluster fuck. Send them all to fucking Moscow, one-way.
They should have left their personal phone at home, and brought a burner. Without the fun apps on it.
Who thinks Putin doesn't intercept these chats?
Who thinks he needs to intercept them?
He was probably told before any of these guys.
I do. Signal encryption is watertight.
Unless you're the Trump admin. Then you just unlock the door and invite them in.
Doesn't matter if you're using a compromised device. Given the number of people in the group chat, that at least some of them were using personal devices, and all of them are high value targets... I wouldn't be so confident that this chat wasn't intercepted.
God dammit, the ads finally found their way to Lemmy
Trump is a Russian asset and the Kremlin dictates U.S. policy.
As a long time poster at all types of Lemmy instances, I still don't get why people don't like lemmy.ml
Can someone ELI5?
Sounds like a win for platypus.
No I'm pretty sure they would support Daddy putin controlling amerikkka
This was all known before, americans still voted for him. This is what they want...
Krasnov, destroying America from within since 1987, the best accidental investment Putin ever made. Great success, comrades! 👍