6mo ago

Trump’s UN ambassador pick says Israel has ‘biblical right’ to West Bank

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Elise Stefanik, President Trump’s nominee for U.S. ambassador to the UN, stated during her confirmation hearing that Israel has a "biblical right" to the occupied West Bank, aligning with far-right Israeli officials.

Stefanik sidestepped support for Palestinian self-determination, blaming their leadership for failures.

Her stance signals a shift from Biden-era opposition to Israeli settlements, with Trump lifting sanctions on Israeli settler groups and nominating pro-settlement figures like Mike Huckabee for key roles.

Stefanik also vowed to audit UN funding and block aid to Palestinian refugee agencies.

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Trump’s UN ambassador pick says Israel has ‘biblical right’ to West Bank

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Trump’s UN ambassador pick says Israel has ‘biblical right’ to West Bank

www.aljazeera.com /news/2025/1/21/trumps-un-ambassador-pick-says-israel-has-biblical-right-to-west-bank

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We did it, Patrick. We saved Palestine.
- Kamala would've nuked it.
  You know, hormones and the predisposition to genocide, or whatever.
  Great work everyone.
  As a bonus, we get to:
  increase drug prices (https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/initial-rescissions-of-harmful-executive-orders-and-actions/
  The original EO is here, and was really difficult to Google:
  https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2022/10/19/2022-22834/lowering-prescription-drug-costs-for-americans).
  Declare everyone as biologically female (because at inception, all embryos are female. It's only after 6-7 weeks that the y chromosome kicks in an makes it biologically male. (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK222286/, https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/defending-women-from-gender-ideology-extremism-and-restoring-biological-truth-to-the-federal-government/ - note the "at conception" points)).
  Cancel climate change (https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/declaring-a-national-energy-emergency/).
  Hurray.
  Everyone do a ~~nazi~~ elon salute
  Edit: bullet points
  
  Correction on your one point - they declared that everyone is neither male nor female, since no one at conception produces reproductive cells. That starts happening later.
  
  Declare everyone as biologically female (because at inception, all embryos are female. It's only after 6-7 weeks that the y chromosome kicks in an makes it biologically male. (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK222286/, https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/defending-women-from-gender-ideology-extremism-and-restoring-biological-truth-to-the-federal-government/ - note the "at conception" points)).
  As somebody who has done courses in gender studies it is painful how plain wrong and unscientific this is. Sure will be true for a lot of the other ones (especially climate). The sex ideology one (and contrary to their claim they of course are the ones with an ideology, because that is what you have when you ignore reality and make up your own truth based on falsehood) will do a lot of harm on the short term. There are real people out there who's whole existence just got denied. My heart goes out (without a Sieg Heil, but in an empatic way) to all the Transpeople, Intersex People, Non-Binary People and all others who just got their identity denied. Please stay safe and hold tight. There are sane cis people out here who know you exist and stand by your side. For what ever that will be worth in the time to come.
- Let the shoulder patting commence.
  
  As recently as yesterday, someone on Lemmy was showcasing to me the cease-fire Trump skillfully engineered in Gaza, with his straight-talking diplomatic skills, as an example of what Biden could have been doing any time he felt up to getting on Trump's level, and a reason why Trump was better.
- Meanwhile, Palestine…
  
  I'm surprised you're still here, to be honest. Yes, I know what Palestine is like right now. I care a lot about it. I wrote my congresspeople, back when they were approving the aid, trying to tell them not to do it. I didn't think it would do anything, and it didn't. That's why I didn't want Trump to come, and make things quite a bit worse than even Biden's already war-criminal level of performance.
  Around 85% of the Palestinians in Gaza are still alive right now, as far as I know. How many once Trump is done with them?
  50%?
  80%? Will he solve the Middle East during his term, and bring an end to the killing? It seems unlikely.
  Less than 10%, with a lot of it annexed to Israel?
  That last one seems pretty probable to me. I think better than 50/50 odds. I don't want to bet.
- ... genocide joe and kamalacaust after getting their "ceasefire".
You know what the bible also says, Elise?
"I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.
-- 1 Timothy 2:12
Please STFU Elise Stefanik as is your biblical right, nay duty, thus sayeth your lord.
- According to the white house you're a woman too. As gender is now assigned at conception ... Stupid penis taking 8 weeks to start appearing in utero.
- Knowing how these people behave, it’s “rules for thee, not for me”, and “yes that’s true but every woman should follow, but I’ll continue to say whatever the fuck I want anyways”. Cognitive dissonance on the surface level does not stop them. It’s always been a “I will say whatever the fuck I want and hide behind some pretty words, and all I have to do is to ignore your criticisms. You can’t touch me.”
therefore american indians have a birthright to 100% of the united states, right? right?
- Doesn't say so in the Bible though, tough luck.
  
  Not in that new-old-fashioned one, but the Book of Mormon's got them covered.
- No, no, not like that. The whites had manifest destiny!
  
  Mormons seen nervously filing away all that "Native Americans are the lost tribes of Israelites" real quickly.
- Didn't trump want to get rid of birthright citizenship? We can just retroactively do it to 1500AD, and give the land back. What's that? Not like that?
- Great show
- Hmmm I’ll have to check what Moses said about that
The bible is just a story book, and if you take it so seriously that you support what is happening over there right now then you're fucked.
Fight me.
In that case, Spain has a divine right to all parts of the US west of the Tordesillas Meridian. The pope said so.
Lots of comments trying to sanewash an actual genocide. Humanity is not a team sport.
- Funny to hear from one of the worse tankies I have seen on .world
  
  Everyone to the left of Netanyahu is a tankie, according to centrists.
Then don’t be surprised about Muslims following the Quran to the letter
• Surah Al-Hajj (22:39-40)
“Permission to fight] has been given to those who are being fought, because they were wronged. And indeed, Allah is competent to give them victory. They are] those who have been evicted from their homes without right—only because they say, ‘Our Lord is Allah.’ …”
I wish I could live to see the day where citing the Bible in support of an argument gets you laughed out of the fucking room.
- Ive waited for that day since I was a child
- Right doesn't it feel like seeing grown ass adults believing in Santa Claus?
- The important thing is that they definitely believe in racism and genocide.
Just imagine what would be happening right now if we had elected that horrible genocide supporting Kamala instead!
- You don't understand, the job numbers were going up on her watch. But they were SOFT jobs numbers!
- IKR. So many palestinians shouting to the mountains for their saviors who abstained for their sakes.
what a disgusting thing to say.
Remember everyone, the "ceasefire" that Trump "negotiated" (wink wink) is in no way just a temporary distraction, he's better for Gaza than Dems could ever have been.
- They haven't even stopped killing. Most of the death at this point is from injury, disease, and starvation, and I'm sure they are still not letting any food come in. And they've still been shooting people. And they did an air strike on a refugee camp in the West Bank yesterday, too, which they had been leaving alone for the most part.
  Presumably, they'll keep doing that until someone shoots at the IDF, at which point it will suddenly become a big deal that "Hamas broke the ceasefire" and they'll resume unapologetically shooting people at scale. Starvation and disease, meanwhile, will be doing their gruesome work throughout, unabated.
  I don't honestly know whether Netanyahu engineered the timing on purpose, to give an opportunity for craven propaganda outlets to make a big fanciful noise about what a genius Trump is because he fixed Palestine, unlike that loser Joe Biden. I could see it either way: It would cost him nothing, but on the other hand, why bother? I'm not sure he really cares what people say about Trump. Either way, he gets what he wants.
- Pretty sure the dude you're replying to is being sarcastic.
  
  Yes, that was one reason for the quotes. (and the winking)
  
  lol, Biden sure as hell didn't negotiate any ceasefire either, Netanyahu handed it to Trump as a PR gift while Biden sat there smiling.
And so has Russia to the Donbas, and so has China to Taiwan, and so has North Korea to South Korea, ans so has Germany to Silesia and Prussia and so have native Americans to America.
- I'd expect that she's not saying "they lived on it a long time ago", but rather "God gave it to the Israelites according to the Bible".
  Exodus 23: 27-31:
  I will have the terror of me precede you, so that I will throw into panic every nation you reach. I will make all your enemies turn from you in flight, and ahead of you I will send hornets to drive the Hivites, Canaanites and Hittites out of your way. But I will not drive them all out before you in one year, lest the land become desolate and the wild animals multiply against you. Little by little I will drive them out before you, until you have grown numerous enough to take possession of the land. I will set your boundaries from the Red Sea to the sea of the Philistines, and from the wilderness to the Euphrates; all who dwell in this land I will hand over to you and you shall drive them out before you. You shall not make a covenant with them or their gods. They must not live in your land. For if you serve their gods, this will become a snare to you.
  Like, divine will and such.
  
  This particular god is obviously genocidal. People who worship him are immoral cowards at best.
- Mongolia has joined the chat
- Who gets Alsace-Lorraine?
  
  Germany, because I'm German and my God told me so.
  
  Das heißt Elsas-Lothringen!
FREE PALESTINE 🇵🇸🙏
Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives
Bible is not historically accurate. (≖≖ )
- A work of fiction isn't historically accurate?
  I'm shocked, absolutely shocked, I tell you!
It's barely in the Torah, and it's sure as shit not in the bibble.
Felon rapist using Bible to promote genocide.
Giving the history of US voting in the UN on anything Israel related being No, this doesnt make any difference.
- The big difference under trump is that it's a pale skin saying it.
I'm sure she's not as amenable to all the biblical rights that men have over her.
- What's the name of this guy in the Bible who was raped by his two daughters ?
  :::spoiler GPT-4o mini (answer) :
  The person you are referring to is Lot. In the Bible, specifically in the Book of Genesis (Genesis 19:30-38), it is described that after the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, Lot's daughters, believing they were the last people on earth, got their father drunk and had sexual relations with him in order to become pregnant.
  :::
  
  ... such a crazy old retarded book !
Sectarian violence should have no place in a secular government
- The theocrats have won. We don't have a secular government anymore.
Who released the leopards?
It's okay. At least blue maga and genocide Joe have been punished. This is worth Palestine being crushed into the dirt.
So they don't have a right to it is what you're saying.
Bitch, stop using those antique salt-crusted scrolls for modern law making, and put them back in the museum. Where they belong.
- Mmmm salt-crusted scrolls...
Trump And the Gang...as a non north American, i knew my investment on a popcorn machine wouldn't go to waste! Need so much popcorn for the next 5 years watching Trump's shenanigans and the (north) American people doing nothing irl except commenting on social media about his BS and how things could have been better. WAKE UP MOFOS! This guy's gonna destroy your country! This is no time to be a keyboard warrior!
- There is not much we can do about it at this point. The citizens have made their choice. And the ones that made the choice are the ones with the most guns.
  
  And now you know why the DNC was so rabid about guns despite there being so many other things that kill more people and don't automatically alienate half the country.
  Gun violence is a problem. The DNC chose to die on that hill. I guarantee that there will be more gun violence than there would have been as the fucking shitbag Nazi's keep doing there thing. There are a surprising number of people who will never vote Democrat because "they will take my guns away".
  This was an issue chosen to keep the US divided and ensure that the half that really oppose the oligarchy are not the half that is armed.
  Good news liberals, leftists and all of you that are not part off the Nazi party, you can still buy guns at the store or from you neighbor.
  Don't let the Nazis seize power. They are 1000% more likely to kill you and your entire family than your chances of dying from random gun violence pre 2016. We are quickly approaching the point of no return.
  Protect yourself, your family, your friends, and those that can't protect themselves.
  
  Fertiliser is cheap.
That’s a fun way to say no right at all but Israel probably disagrees
much surprise that Trump decided to side with the powerful and the rich
Christian zionism is also genocidal fascism and it's the most widespread.
Q&A: For every 1 Jewish Zionist, there are 30 Christian Zionists, and Netanyahu exploits this
Had a Biblical right, but they forfeited it when they stopped following God and went and did things worse than the surrounding nations. They were rejected as a kingdom of God just before Babylon took over, and when they flash mobbed the Romans to execute Jesus, that completed the rejection. Israel has not been the Kingdom of God for 2,500 years, roughly, and definitely do not have his backing for this assault.
- They never had a "biblical right" because there is no such thing.
More proof that Trump is ending the palestinian genocide.
What's that? That's not the right conclusion based on the information?
Bb...but the tankies pwomised
- no leftist worth their salt thought this was going to end the genocide, where you not listening to anything the left said?
- I mean the genocide will end pretty soon probably. I did try to warn the paint huffers at ml and hexbear. They don't like listening though.
Both Israelis and Palestinians claim to have a "God given right" to that very same piece of sand.
I suspect that's a large part of why this conflict has been ongoing for longer than most of the combatants have been alive.
- Palestinians don't claim to have a God given right to that land. They have a UNRWA refugee mandate to that land.
- This photo is literally you
  
  this is amazingly accurate

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