Republicans be like

Every time they get education, they keep moving to the left! 😭😭😭

Is like... "Man falsely get arrested, becomes a rAdICaL anarchist"
hmm... wonder why... 🤔
Doesn't everybody?
Because somehow education includes gender and social studies.
Imagine if they got educated in something useful instead. We need better batteries, so you'd think people would want to educate themselves about the research of batteries? Or literally any other STEM-field that might bring something useful and practical out of it.
- Found the uneducated!
- We don't need better batteries. We need a radical reform of our approach to public transportation, but your daddy Elon sabotaged railways with his Hyperloop vaporware and remote working with his yuppie-like 80-hours-a-week-in-the-office policy.
- Understanding peoples behaviors makes for better team cooperation. Humans are social creatures, our strength is not individual inteligence but the collective intelligence.
- Wow your message was delivered poorly, but there is a core concept hidden within it that I do agree with. Schools need to focus more on critical thinking skills rather than any particular topic. Because those can be applied to anything.
  Ever since standardized testing rolled around school has become more about teaching kids to memorize something and to not try if they don't know and just move on rather than allowing them to get something wrong but engage in critical thinking.
  Instead of memorizing random formulas in math class that you may or may not use in your daily life especially now that it's literally guaranteed that there's 15 calculators within 5 ft of you at all times including one in your pocket. It would be more useful to teach specific types of math that encourage critical thinking like say ROI calculations, something that literally everyone can and should be using in their daily lives for even just basic shopping but virtually nobody knows what that even means.

It costs money, has long term effects, and helps people so that’s a no go.

It's not even that. It makes people less blindly compliant to authority, and that's absolutely unacceptable to Republicans.

An educated citizenry is required for a well functioning democracy that benefits that citizenry. That is not in the interest of republican politicians and their benefactors.

sounds of Lenin
Let's not act as if Republicans are the only ones doing this mate.
- Did Democrats start pushing to defund public schools and offer "vouchers"? I must have missed that.

We can't hire Americans **because they expect to be paid properly

Also the beauty of H1B visa people is that because they have to leave the country (or find another job) in 30 days in the even that they get fired, it means they are perfect for assholes like that billionaire. "Agree to do this or go back to that shit hole"
- I sort of remember for Trump’s first term, one of his campaign promises was to set a salary minimum for H1B workers. Out of a thoroughly insane agenda, that was the one policy I liked, because it returned that program to its intent - hiring specialized experts that can’t be found here.
  Of course, he didn’t follow through and do it.

"What do you need an education for anyway? I didn't have an education and look at me now; I'm president of the United States!"

It's the government's job to educate the masses! But not like that! And not with my money!

They want what's best for them, not what's best for us. Cheap, loyal labor from countries worse, off than ours is ideal.

Let the Americans eat paste.

if you need a school you've already lost (Elon Musk)

Yet he's the richest man on Earth.

He'a the best argument against capitalism as a meritocratic system.

Weird do filters not catch quotes?
- Found out the hard way.
if you need a school you've already lost (Elon Musk)
I wonder how he got them there bachelor degrees? Hmm?!
- I don't know much about his lore but I wouldn't be surprised if he spun his to portray himself as a gifted talent stifled by the school system

And we hate immigrants, but we need all these H1B visas because we don’t want to educate our own citizens to do the jobs that support the middle class. Then we will scapegoat those people and accuse them of being the problem.

votes for the Republican anyways

That’s because the money goes into billionaire’s pockets instead, who would rather just import dirt cheap labor and face less wage pressure.

If only they knew what the E in DEI stood for.

That would assume two things... and both of those require education. As trump famously said last goddamn time... he loves the uneducated.
Exclusion?
- De-evolution, Exclusion, and Inbreeding - the three pillars of the Red team supporter base.
They know the word, but have no fucking idea what it means.
Miss, what does the I stand for?

Musk should be kept far away from the health insurance industry.

Isn’t muskrat worth like 400bill? He could put 200,000 kids through college all 4 years at 50k/year (which many schools fall under mind you but let’s be conservative).

He’d have 300bill left.

Edit: lol he’s worth 486bill so he could do the above and be worth 386bill more or less assuming literally no exceptions to 50k a year. He could probably pit half million through for that with minimal effort.

It should simply not be legal to have more money than you could possibly spend in your lifetime.
Is my math wrong? I don't see how, in your scenario, it would cost him 100 billion. It wouldn't even cost him 1 billion. 200k (students) x $50k/year x 4 years = $40 million.
Edit: Ok yeah my math is wrong but still not that wrong. It's $40 billion. (That's what I get trying to do the Calc in my head). Still not $100 billion though. He could put 500k kids through school in your scenario for it to cost him 100 billion.
- sfgsdgdsgdsgdsgdfs
- That's what I got, too. The person you're responding to seems to have mixed up orders of magnitude. Like I get it, 400m is still unfathomably wealthy, but he has a thousand times that.

To be fair, the MAGA crowd does not want to take the required schooling for those jobs. What can you do...

The continuation of the piss poor US income distribution and 3rd World working conditions.

Fash already control nearly every aspect of the indoctrination system: nationalism, capitalism, racism, patriarchy, etc.

Yes, higher education should be free, but this kind of logic is a trap, as it normalizes nationalistic logic which only helps the worst of the extreme-right. Besides even countries that have free higher education need to hire qualified immigrants because not everyone wants or has the natural inclination to do all the jobs that are required for the local specialization hub.

- Not everyone has the right mindset or natural skills to be a surgeon or a software engineer or a cgi artist, etc. Jobs tend to cluster in geographic locations but the best people for those jobs aren't all necessarily born there.

To play devil's advocate, that's not what they're saying.

They're saying that other countries education systems are roughly equivalent to the US, and in that scenario, they'd rather still be able to use their stock piled capital to pay for the best of the best from other countries to immigrate to the US.

No. Other countries education is nowhere near equivalent to the US.
From another comment of mine:
My wife woke me to the abysmal nature of education in America. Not even mad or condemning us, she's merely puzzled. She has a degree, and 40+ continuing ed certs, in early childhood education. Oh fuck me y'all would be swole if you knew what I knew.
I've seen videos of her teaching in the Philippines at her own little school. In one exercise, 3-year olds are funneling colored water into containers. "What are you teaching here?" "Hand eye coordination." Fuck me, we were thrown on the floor with blocks until we were 5, and kindergarten was still mostly daycare. These "schools" won't allow her to teach anything. The mildest proposals are met with, "We're not doing that." She has been denied when asking to draw up a lesson plan.
In the Philippines, they start reading at 3. By 4 they know 4-5 letter words and have started arithmetic. And this isn't some tiger mom bullshit. These kids are having a blast! They love competing and helping one another. One 6-yo got on stage at a graduation thing and gave a talk. I seriously doubt many full-grown Americans would be as smooth. Hopefully we'll get the school reopened back there.
Here in America, she's given up her career, nothing to be had but minimum wage. She could make more at Walmart and actually have benefits. She has a pretty great job now, loves it, but it's not her passion.
Americans are uneducated and lazy as fuck. We cannot continue to coast like this.
- In the Philippines, they start reading at 3. By 4 they know 4-5 letter words and have started arithmetic. And this isn’t some tiger mom bullshit. These kids are having a blast! They love competing and helping one another. One 6-yo got on stage at a graduation thing and gave a talk. I seriously doubt many full-grown Americans would be as smooth. Hopefully we’ll get the school reopened back there.
  I grew up in a very poor area of a very blue state, and that sounds like what we did in pre-k and kindergarten.
- This is just ridiculous. Plenty of Americans are educated, hard working, and fully capable public speaking. And kids learn those same things at around the same age.
- Fucking yikes. We're just getting left behind by the rest of the world in so many ways, it's awful.
  Edit: my phrasing makes it sound like I think it's the world's fault - I don't.
- So your point is that other countries have better education systems? In which case, you're agreeing with my point.

Although I agree with the sentiment of this meme it has one thing wrong.

Americans aren’t interested in getting educated. At least not in the subjects that are relevant.

Americans prefer going to school for fun and majoring in stuff like business administration and communications, or the plethora of other majors that are fully saturated with people.

STEM majors and jobs scare most Americans away and this is a problem. There are also a ton of high paying labor jobs in America but the majority of Americans want nothing to do with labor and would rather have an office job.

Look I am not saying billionaires are right, because they aren’t. Fuck them. However youngsters today growing up need to be more involved in understanding how the labor market works and become educated in the skills that actually matter. It isn’t so much a lack of education. It’s there, it’s just that most people aren’t interested in being educated in the right skills.

I got a computer science degree because I got into computers as a kid and I was good with them. When I apply for a job it feels like like I'm competing with half the planet. It took 2 years to get the current job I have at an MSP and I've been applying for new jobs for a year now. I can count the times I've been contacted by recruiters over the past year on one hand. There's plenty more in my boat. If we'd known we probably would have had a different major.
I did labor before landing a job with an MSP by the way. I'm in my early 30s with back, neck, and hand problems now and pain that radiates into my hips and legs. You don't get out of labor jobs unscathed.
- IT is a weirdly hard field to break into these days, and climbing the ladder can be difficult as employers generally don't want to take a risk on someone who hasn't worked in helpdesk/sysadmin/security/etc. before. Once you get your first role with the job title you want it's 20 times easier to get your second one.
  The job market also sucks right now. 1-3 years ago it was amazing and I landed interviews I should not have landed simply because places couldn't get candidates, but now I've been laid off and spent 3 months and about 40 applications and ultimately took the first offer I got (it was also the second place to call me to interview)
- Computer science is a massive world. It’s true that even the computer world is saturated. All of India is competing with you. But keep in mind those are commodity roles that are easy to outsource and fill. There are plenty of roles like cyber security and many others that they can’t or won’t outsource. You may just be in the wrong sector.
  As for labor jobs I get it. They suck. But the world needs laborers and LOTS of them pay very very well.
  So many republicans complain immigrants are stealing our jobs except these are all labor jobs that Americans don’t want, and now they want to kick them out of the country so no one is doing those jobs at all.
  I really don’t know what else to tell people. You can’t have your cake and eat it too. People are quick to blame billionaires and while they are right to do so they are only just one of the many variables at play.
  The biggest variable at play is that Americans aren’t aligning to the job market.
There's a surplus of STEM labor. It's the trades which are short.
I agree with the general sentiment that STEM scares a lot of Americans.
When I would tell other young women I was an engineering major, I would often hear a similar refrain - "Oh, I could never do that!" And it drove me insane! I am not magically gifted at mental math, I can't do differential equations in my head. And most engineers I know, whether American or foreign, can't do those things either.
A lot of engineering isn't about being freakishly gifted like Elon Musk pretends. It takes gradual development of skills toward an end goal. First, you have to nail down the tools for the work (math, physics, chemistry), then you get to apply those tools to real-world problems. Engineering is problem solving, making mistakes, and being curious enough to keep going.
In short, engineering is about the long game. And didn't become rewarding until around year 3 for me. I took some other classes in subjects to entertain myself and fill my schedule. In the disciplines of archeology, art history, and archetecture. And I called them my sanity classes. They were immediately satisfying, and made me feel like I was learning and not struggling or making those mistakes I made in engineering classes. I think most students enjoy the satisfaction of classes like that. The learning seems more instantaneous and less like a step on a ladder.
Sorry for the diatribe. In short, if you happen to read this as a young person and have the opportunity to study engineering - do it. Try not to go into debt for it, but don't feel excluded because you aren't the best at long division.
As for Musk, I've spoken with a few engineers who worked at his various companies. Everyone has left for other companies because he is a nightmare to work for. Yes, there are gifted engineers from other countries, but Musk wants employees that are tied to him and will work the slavish hours to earn a better life for the next generation of their families. A lot of American engineers are not willing to ignore their families like Musk himself clearly does. There are plenty of other space companies that pay well and aren't run by sociopaths.
- I took some other classes in subjects to entertain myself and fill my schedule. In the disciplines of archeology, art history, and archetecture.
  At my school, the STEM people see these classes and GEs as useless classes that waste their time and money. I only know one other guy like me who enjoy these classes and see them as a sanity break. Happy to know there is another guy like us out there.
  There are plenty of other space companies that pay well and aren't run by sociopaths.
  Mmm could you list a few? I feel like most are in defense. Unless you count the research side of the company. Like how Boeing bombs people but also does space exploration.
I don't think there's is a STEM worker shortage. IIRC, there have been something like 300k tech layoffs in the last couple years. Actual scientists and mathmeticians are extremely underpaid, but a lot of people like doing it, which is one of the reasons "citizen science" is becoming popular.
It's not about being "educated" in "STEM". That's just a sterile euphemism for destroying any form of education that fosters revolt against a lifetime of serving capital.
going to school for fun
majoring in stuff like business administration
Pick one.