Torrent of Hate for Health Insurance Industry Follows C.E.O.’s Killing
Dated: 2024-12-05. Added: 2024-12-05. Alternate title: “After UnitedHealthcare CEO’s Killing, Americans Express Frustration With Health Insurance Industry”.
C'mon man, the hate was obviously there before the killing, it's just that it took a murder to get the hacks at the NYT to cover it.
I wonder how many deaths that ceo is responsible for..
Come on now. You can't honestly expect a poor innocent billionaire who's only goal in life was to line his pockets and the pockets of the people he was responsible for with every single penny they could possibly extort out of the poverty stricken and miserable people that rely on their services for life-saving medicine to actually be responsible for the people that died relying on them for their services right?
That would imply that there's some sort of moral obligation for service providers to provide the services that they agreed to provide to the people that are paying them for said services!
That would imply that when a company whose entire point of existence is providing healthcare services to the people that need them does not provide those services when they are needed that the company is responsible for the misery and pain and deaths that result as a lack of providing those services!
That would imply that the CEO who is the leader of that company has all of those hundreds of thousands of gallons of blood on his hands!
That would also imply that people getting fed up and retaliating against these billionaires are actually justifiable heroes rather than depraved bloodthirsty savages only seeking to destroy the American way of life.
That's crazy talk!
No more than the politicians who won't pass single payer health care reform.
NYT CEO? Well they did cheerlead the Iraq war, reported lies that led to the war without question like a fucking press release and slandered anyone who dare speak against it. How many Iraqis died? 200k?
That's not true.
I hated the insurance companies yesterday, but I wasn't posting about actually killing anyone.
People have been talking about guillotines in the abstract. Now they are talking about it in concrete terms.
No way to tell why the working class would feel this way.
Just no way to know what compells normal citizens to thrist for blood.
Ex US attorney Preet Bharara says that an important boundary is when a fantasy "graduates", going from protected free speech to credible threat.
Maybe you but I am serious when I say we should start guillotining billionaires.
It is unclear what motivated the incident or whether it was tied to Mr. Thompson’s work in the insurance industry.
This is a joke right? Is the Times being sarcastic?
The dude inscribed his motivation on the freaking bullet casings. I mean, come on!
It's interesting seeing all the different ways every article about this walks around the obvious. The news corps are really showing thier biases this year.
They do a little trolling
But that did not stop social media commenters from leaping to conclusions and from showing a blatant lack of sympathy over the death of a man who was a husband and father of two children.
Don't be clueless, NYT. Similar to the blatant lack of sympathy shown by corporate execs over the damages their policies cause in the pursuit of infinite increases to the bottom line? I mean, after a few tens of thousands of collective years of life lost I guess human suffering is just a statistic... The C-suite is well paid enough to not waste too much concern over it. In fact, they probably get paid more for less money spent on those liabilities. All those people denied care were wives, husbands, fathers, mothers, brothers, sisters, daughters, sons....you get the idea. His life is NOT worth more than those he traded for shareholder approval.
It's crazy that the media is judging the public so harshly. Who do they think is reading? Lol
Well to be fair, the advertisers have always been the real customers. Most media loses money in distribution.
I more or less stopped paying attention to NYT in 2002-2003 when they so gleefully cheerlead the Iraq2 campaign. And I feel dumb it took me that long. They don't exist to do anything except manufacture consent.
I will never forgive their complicity in the Iraq war and I treat anyone who reads the NYT without simultaneously harboring a constant distaste for it as fundamentally unserious in their practice of educating themselves about reality.
Messages that law enforcement officials say were found on bullet casings at the scene of the shooting in front of a Midtown hotel — “delay” and “deny”
That's next level
Pretty sure it's a reference to this book.
It would be so funny if there was a joke in the book like, "It's not like you can shoot your problem away!"
Thanks, I was wondering what the reference was.
No mention of "depose" huh... And obviously NYT would try to paint Brian in a positive light.
NYT is neo liberal rag that will protect neo liberal agenda?
No way!
The hate for our abusive and predatory "healthcare" system has been omnipresent for a very long time. This just gave us all a shared focal point to collect around. I hope this keeps building steam. This one act could lead to collective actions to make these companies scared. These CEOs, politicians, and billionaires NEED to know they are not untouchable. I supported a girlfriend through terminal cancer and saw how "selective" insurance companies can be on what diagnostics and treatments they'll allow. That shit radicalized me permanently.
Ahh. The good old at&t tag line, "Reach out and touch someone" comes to mind.
“Object embedding tool”
Most of the media seems committed to ensuring that this focus on abusive health insurance companies evaporates as soon as possible.
These CEOs, politicians, and billionaires NEED to know they are not untouchable
My guess is that this catalyst will do nothing except cause them to make sure they're untouchable, and will probably figure out a way to use taxpayer money to do it.
About seven chief executives of publicly traded companies die each year, he said
This article is a goddamned joke. The poor chief executives! What in the fuck is this.
If you're going to quote that you should quote the rest of it:
but almost always from health complications or accidents. A targeted attack could have much larger implications.
They're not begging for sympathy, they go on to talk about the effect this act will have on the health insurance companies, which is what we all want to see.
Good. We pay more for healthcare than any other nation on the planet and the quality is lower than in many other nations. That's a proven fact.
I hope they're scared. They should be.
That hatred has always been there. Media is just focusing on it because someone actually did something about it.
Look at who the USAmerican people voted for despite all their hate for the health insurance industry: a bunch of crooks that make the industry profitable on the backs of their voters.
People can't help themselves but vote against their interests.
A crook who coincidentally said he could shoot somebody on the streets of manhattan and get away with it.
Now we know who killed the CEO!
That describes both parties. There's a reason none of the dems are taking advantage of this moment to show the overwhelming majority that they want the same things.
Both candidates were pro-institution. Let go of the delusion that Harris was somehow a champion of the people. She is the system. The only reason she got the amount of votes she did is because she was the only viable non-trump vote possible. The DNC tried to force another neo-liberal on us, and the people stayed home.
A longtime employee of UnitedHealthcare said that workers at the company had been aware for years that members were unhappy. Mr. Thompson was one of the few executives who wanted to do something about it, said the employee, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the company does not allow workers to speak publicly without permission.
In speeches to employees, Mr. Thompson spoke about the need to change the state of health care coverage in the country and the culture of the company, topics other executives avoided, the employee said.
The speeches:
A national response of apathy hatred over the cold-blooded murder of a corporate medical business leader may be a reason to take a closer look at our corporate medical system.
Things will change for sure.
First, they might wear body armor now. Next, they might rethink walking the streets alone, and instead have bodyguards.
Since those cost money, everyone's benefits will be cut and they'll have to raise rates all across the board!
First, they might wear body armor now.
Put at least one in the head to be sure.
You're making the assumption that they haven't already jacked the rates up to the max the market will support
OK, I agree that will be the reaction. So maybe some will take the action a little further down the line from CEO.
cold blooded murder self defense
I don't think apathy is what you would call it
Good point. Corrected.
I have a blatant lack of sympathy for the smug liberal elite at the NYT when the guillotine takes off their heads too
I do not understand this phrase. All elites are authoritarians. Explain what a liberal elite is..? Truly what do you mean by that?
The Bourgeoisie are the elite in liberal democracies, and liberalism is their ideology. Hence the name "liberal elite".
Do not confuse liberalism with progressivism or leftism. It's dead centrist at the moment.
The NYT leans heavily liberal. As does most of the pearly clutching mainstream media.
Also, slightly unrelated, let’s not forget who published known lies leading to the Iraq war, cheerleaded it and slandered anyone who questioned the WMD narrative. They’ve got ~200k lives on their hands.
Would be a shame if someone deny delay desposed their CEO.
It means Jews tradirionally
The killer apparently used a fake id at the hostile he stayed at, and as well intentionally dropped a burner phone in the alley as he left the scene of the crime
This guys roughly as popular as Bernie Sanders was in 2015 and the NY Times somehow can't connect the dots.
The revolution will not be televised.
They are paid not to connect the dots
I live in SORROW at this Father and Husband being MURDERED! WHY couldn't they just Murder a Bunch of Children Instead! Or a POOR Father and Husband instead! Then I WOULDNT have cared!
Hatred for C suite leeches is a pre-existing condition, charges are denied
The jokes, etc comments aside, the worst thing we can do to health insurance companies is reform our system so they can't profit off of denying the care our doctors prescribe for us.
They're nothing but middlemen, and this system simply doesn't exist in other developed countries. They all have better care and they pay less than us for it. I realize this might be literally impossible to implement during a Trump/GOP presidency, but we as country can do the best thing for ourselves, while also giving the insurance companies the finger by passing some form of single payer/universal health care.
Got no hate. Just zero sympathy. Live life at the expense of others, but don't be surprised if they fail to care for you in return.
Authors of article are a former wall street journal writer and a style section meme article writer?
Cynical speculation says that the writing assignment went something like, "shit, the sentiment on this is trending in the wrong direction cause of memes. Okay, get our meme editor in here, we gotta reach these kids...and page the fortune 500 consultant we hired away from the Journal, they'll want to approve whatever we publish..."
Okay, get our meme editor in here, we gotta reach these kids...and page the fortune 500 consultant we hired away from the Journal, they'll want to approve whatever we publish..."
Not enough really...
If governments should be afraid of their people, and we're governed by oligarchs, then the oligarchs should be afraid of the people.
QED
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It's only the beginning.
Wait a minute.... Is this an idea that putin is considering now? Oh yeah, I feel so confused! Oh very politically disoriented.... Hopefully our precious oligarchs don't fall from tall building. Must use correct English now.
This assassin has created more solidarity over working class issues then the Democrats could, even with 1.5 billion dollars. Fascinating
Sounds like we've found what the Democrats should add to their playbook.
Who wants to go first?
biden should pardon him; whats one more pardon for a criminal with a gun after the first one?
'Ezio has entered the chat'
Millions of Americans have trained to do this.
The training was abhorrently bad, very easy, completely unrealistic and provided no real skills.
But they have trained.
By assassin you mean the one who got the bullets, right?
The assassin is the one who did the shooting. The one who got shot is the mass-murderer
No, he didn't assassinate anyone, just caused them to die. He would have had to know who they were and cared enough to specifically target them for it to be assassinations.
Assassination implies a targeted strike.
Systematic Mass killers are not assassins.