Death to daylight savings time

Reminder that 2 years ago getting rid of it unanimously passed the senate, but not the house, so we're still stuck with it. It's an excellent example to point to about how both parties never get anything actually beneficial done no matter how popular it is, but somehow manage to give trillions to Israel no problem.

I want to point out that it only passed the Senate because nobody knew what they were voting for and nobody bothered to block it. After they found out what the bill actually was a bunch of Senators came out against it, after they had already passed it.
Per: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/paulmcleod/daylight-saving-time-senate
- You mean we passed a bill that actually helps people?!

Even the FARMERS hate it, even though it’s ostensibly for them.

I recall reading a Reddit thread on /r/farming where they were all bitching about how fucking pointless and stupid it is, with one user commenting “My work day starts when the sun rises, and the sun doesn’t care what our fucking clocks say what time it is”

Unlimited genocide on daylight savings time

People say it’s for farmers, but obviously that’s nonsense. The intention was to reduce energy use, by shifting things so when people get off work they spend more time outside instead of inside using energy.
Also because the guy who came up with it wanted to spend more time catching bugs iirc.
Also if it has any effect on energy use it’s unclear which direction and it’s less than 1% either way, which is not enough to justify the increased car accidents, heart attacks, etc. that happen every time we shift the clocks.

I’m with you, but I’m gonna be pedantic anyway: Daylight saving time is the summer time with more light in the evening. Standard time is the garbage one we’re about to switch back to where it gets dark super early.

this is a good point, but the abrupt change twice per year is harmful regardless of which ends up being the permanent time.
- 100%, and this is my ultimate belief, I’m happy with either way as long as we stop fucking with the clocks
In that case death to standard time

Seriously fuck this shit. Starting next week gonna be fucking dark out when i leave for work and dark out half an hour before I leave work. Super stoked to not have any waking hours during daylight to do what I want on weekdays for the next 4 months.

"I forgot how dark winters are" I exclaim every year, forgetting that The Man has Fucked With The Clock
- The problem is all summer I lie to myself and say it's really not so bad except for like 6 weeks from the end of December till February then we change the clocks and I have to get blinded by giant fucking trucks for 45 minutes every night.
  This is a serious problem and not a petty personal grievance that's an obvious consequence of living whre I chose to.

DST sucks. i often think about how it probably kills a measurable number of people every year by slightly spiking car accidents and stuff in the morning when the time goes back.

you're exactly right, it is measurable.
pedestrian deaths: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0001457503000150
deaths of despair: https://web.gc.cuny.edu/sites/default/files/2021-07/Saving-Light%2C-Losing-Lives-How-Daylight-Saving.pdf
- Heart attacks and strokes go up too iirc
We're about to get off of dst. You want to stay on dst and eliminate standard time.

On the one hand, DST is annoying and disruptive. On the other hand, it no longer serves any practical purpose whatsoever.

Really glad we still have to put up with this shit.

On the other hand, it no longer serves any practical purpose whatsoever.
In a way this would be a positive. Or there's a bright side. We can, as a society, all agree to do something completely pointless and stupid. Would be cool if we funnelled that energy towards something sillier. What if we all agreed that a certain tuesday just didn't exist or something? I dunno, could be wacky, could be nice. Instead we have DST.

Counterpoint: death to capitalism, death to the workday

Also that, but in any society there will probably be broad agreement about chronology (yes I know watch time came as a result of industrial revolution and the attitude we have now is very recent and so on and so forth) so we do risk creating a socialist utopia with daylight savings just as a result of when people meet each other. If everyone around you says it's 6 pm then it's 6 pm and if there's cultural values tied to 6 pm, like "now it's evening" then it's the evening.

couldnt give less of a fuck about the difference between standard and daylight savings time, i just hate the switching

Death to America

5 pm is too early for it to be dark
- it's gonna be dark a lot in winter whether we use standard time or daylight savings, the difference between it being dark early in the evening or late into the morning is just a matter of taste
  Death to America

You have it backwards. Death to standard time. Daylight savings is during the summer. We're about to go back to regular time.

That's just changing your territory over to an adjacent time zone. Still kills the whole "daylight savings"nonsense of changing clocks.
- The main bitch in here is that 5pm is too early to be dark. It's a tiny inconvenience at best to change the clocks. Most things do it on their own, now.
Ah whoops, well you know what I mean. The concept of daylight savings I guess

I do shift work so when DST hits I usually get an extra hour of work that day.

I know that feeling. Have some buddies working on ships and on the days that shift rollover happens... Despair
- I’ve heard stories of people losing their birthdays by crossing the date line, lol

My question is, when are we going to spend some of this daylight that we have saved up?

It's the grey men from momo, stealing our time
We'll never get it back unless we raid their vault of stolen time

Correct opinion, any other is wrong

If there were no time zones it would be the same time everywhere on Earth.

in theory yes, but in practice 6 pm would just become "morning time" for whoever lived where 6 pm occured in the morning. The way we think about time is in many ways a cultural construction. There's linguists that write about this, it's pretty interesting

So many ways in which this shithole country is still hopelessly stuck in the past

And we’ll never get out without force (and force is swiftly crushed by the shithole’s surveillance apparatus)

Daylight savings cos its saving my eyes from seeing daylight until spring

RETVRN
::: spoiler the thing we return to

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Daylight savings time sucks because its noon is offset from solar noon, but I think most people think we're going to daylight savings time when we're actually exiting daylight savings time into standard time. Standard time is better because its noon is (mostly) synced with solar noon. And since we spend the majority of the year in daylight savings time, the noon that's on our clocks doesn't actually correspond to anything since the sun is at its highest at like 1pm. Real simulacrum hours.

People get confused because the names are absurd and backwards. How is it “Daylight Saving” when you move the daylight towards the evening? Thats Daylight Spending if anything. We’re putting it where we can use more of it! Daylight Saving would be shifting away from the evening.
But also I don’t particularly care if clock noon matches solar noon. I don’t want to leave work in the dark, and it would be significantly easier to stay on DST year round than to force every business and employer to shift their hours forward so I don’t leave work in the dark.
- How is it “Daylight Saving” when you move the daylight towards the evening? Thats Daylight Spending if anything.
  Jerry Seinfeld, is that you?
Ah fuck. Can I cop out and say I mean the concept of DST then? Obviously we'd stay on summer time.

NOON SHOULD BE WHEN THE SUN IS AT ITS PEAK FOR THE DAY. I CAN FORGIVE 30MINS HERE AND THERE BUT MY SUNDAIL DOESN'T WORK.

Seriously though, I feel like I'm a plant that needs to stay in sync with the sun and seasons. As a neat little activity you can go to timeanddate.com and put in your location (or any location) and see at what time of the day the sun is at its peak. It also tells you the angle above/below the horizon for the sun and moon at any time and date.

Controversial statement: Noon on the clock should correspond to solar noon.

That also means not having timezones that are completely out of whack with solar time.

They made the common mistake of assuming winter time, the one that sucks and where daylight is “saved” by moving it earlier in the day and we’re only on for a small portion of the year is Daylight Saving Time instead of Standard Time. That’s why we call it standard, because most of the time we don’t use it!
Obviously the summer time where we get to use all the daylight in the evening, the one we’re on for the majority of the year, is Daylight Saving Time!
Obviously we'd be using summer time the whole year, it's the other one that sucks