Tesla unveils Cybercab: a $30,000 electric robotaxi coming in the next 2 years | Electrek
Tesla unveils Cybercab: a $30,000 electric robotaxi coming in the next 2 years
In real people years or “we will be on mars soon” years?
In "self-driving by 2016" years
Good question.
The Mars base should be started years ago according to what Musk claimed, and they should have manned flights to Mars by now. And all he has is half failed tests just to do one orbit around earth! 🤣🤣🤣
For 8 years he has claimed Fully autonomous driving will be ready next year. He even claimed years ago, that a car picking you up and driving you across the country was something we can do today!
Enron Musk is a conman, he is obviously a liar, and there are people who still believe him?!
But it's all the government's fault for having regulations that stop him doing what he wants - he'd be on Mars by now if it wasn't for the stupid government stopping him from poisoning a protected nature reserve and crashing rockets into people.
Don't they understand? It's really important to get people to mars so there is a place for rich assholes to go when the environment on earth is completely trashed beyond repair
Muskrat years.
if he gets over his fear of lidar and stops trying to do everything with cameras this could actually work out ... so basically this isn't going to work out.
this could actually work out
No it won't, Elon Next year Musk has promised Fully autonomous driving next year since 2016. He has sold his cars with subscriptions for FSD for years, despite it doesn't work. It's even illegal to call it FSD now, so Tesla has to call it assisted FSD, which is an oxymoron.
With this move, Enron Musk will more likely ensure the continued decline of Tesla. The Cybercab most likely will not be a moneymaker, and the focus on developing it, will detract from Tesla developing much needed new EV models, for a market with increasing competition.
Tesla is far from #1 in developing autonomous driving, so the chances are very slim that they would be even close to be first to market.
AFAIK this is pretty the current rank:
-1 Waymo (Google)
-2 Mercedes
-3 Mobil Eye
-4 GM (Cruise)
-5 Baidu
-6 Tesla
Possibly Nissan-Renault (WeRide) and Nvidia can match Tesla too.
Notice that Tesla used MobilEye originally up to 2016, but MobilEye ended the partnership after a Tesla model S had a fatal crash. I suspect the irresponsible claims implementation and practices by Elon Musk were too much.
Elon Musk is insane and a con man, to believe anything he claims about the future of his companies is naive.
Because Musk has a weird obsession that everything needs to work with just cameras, and no other sensors can help. While it might work someday in the far future with proper AGI (e.g Delamain from Cyberpunk 2077), until then it's a pretty hopeless endeavour.
Man, how did Mobil Eye not just tack an “s” on the end? The pun is right there, and it’s frankly excellent and super topical to what they’re trying to do.
What’s the conversion of Elon years to real years?
I believe it involves impossible math, like dividing by 0
I think the general rule of thumb is to shift the units of time up.
If he says 2 weeks, try 2 months. If he says 2 months, wait 2 years.
Robotaxis in 2 decades I think is actually achievable.
It's funny that Boston Dynamic has been quite successful with their biped robot, then Tesla announce something without even a working prototype.
Then Waymo has been quite successful with their driverless taxi, then Melon announce something without even a working prototype.
I wonder what he will copy next.
Hopefully it's infinity. It's Elon Musk we're talking about. These are 100% going to kill people (pedestrians, other drivers, riders) and animals.
1:0
What mass transit program is Musk trying to disrupt now? (As he did California's high speed rail with the Hyperloop.)
Dumbest car design yet Elon. Congrats. Nothing says cab like a coupe design with gullwing doors.
A cab with no driver is just an incredibly expensive gender neutral toilet. I shudder to think what will be done in these if they ever exist.
Musk is installing men and women's toilets separately, like God intended.
I agree it is an idiotic design for a cab, but I'd argue the Cybertruck is a way dumber design even by visuals alone. That thing would at least make for a half decent sports car (again, visually).
Oh. So "unveiling" doesn't mean they have something. Just the "2 years" promise is repeated for the N'th time ;-)
Normally it's always promised next year, so a 2 year deadline means the project is in serious trouble.
That's true, he's been saying 6 months or a year for Full Self Driving for almost 10 years now.
Just a reminder that reasonably minded shareholders would never take what Elon says as anything other than fluffery, and should refrain from making any financial decisions based on such fluff.
WTF? How can a CEO walk from responsibility by claiming puffery? Which is the same as admitting to lying!
In civilized countries CEO is a position of responsibility, you can't just talk up stock or sales with false claims. The requirements for a CEO are higher than usual, exactly because everything they say can have a financial impact.
I'm pretty sure that judgement is not according to normal practices.
It's disgusting they let that pedo walk again and again.
Now you know why China DiSsApPeArS so many of them.
Also known as fucking jail.
Well, the stock tanked by ~10% after the news, so yeah, shareholders don't seem to be buying it and want more specifics.
Given Tesla's usual build quality I feel like it's pretty much inevitable that there are going to be an enormous amount of skull and limb injuries from those gullwing doors.
Its name is still not clear. Prior to the event, Musk referred to it as both ‘Cybercab’ and ‘Robotaxi’.
Couldn't even decide a name and everything is 3d render. Add 3 years at least to the existing estimation. At least they didn't have a toy rc as a representation, like their announcement of the robot.
Musk said that Cybercab is equipped with Tesla’s AI5 onboard computer and based on a visual check, it appears to only use cameras, like Tesla’s existing vehicles.
Gonna add another 1 year to it. Cybertruck didn't even have full autopilot yet, and required the car to be babyseated. Steering-less car that only use camera for their autopilot is gonna be a disaster.
Steering-less car that only use camera for their autopilot is gonna be a disaster.
Recently found out about F9, superb content even though i don't ride motorcycle.
A disaster using camera only for autopilot? Tesla FSD supervised has been successfully operating in consumer vehicles using cameras only for a couple years now. FSD software for the last several months has been performing phenomenally. If you take a ride in one it’s not hard at all to see how it could operate fully autonomously even within the next year.
A disaster using camera only for autopilot?
A disaster for steering-less, unsupervised autopilot car. There's a difference.
If you take a ride in one it’s not hard at all to see how it could operate fully autonomously even within the next year.
I've have faith before when CGP Grey simp so much on Tesla autopilot several years ago, but that faith waned so hard after several mishap and death. Yes, it's gonna be fully autopilot like before, but it would need to be supervised as always.
In the case of steering-less tesla, there's no backup driver to prevent this.
"successfully"
Last time I drove one and tried it, it tried to ram me into the next lane over on a medium curve. It's not great.
You know what would have been even more useful is a 28k model 2. This show was a scam.
I've heard this one before… Musk has proven himself an untrustworthy bad faith actor who lies constantly about many things, especially self-driving Teslas.
Now he's a right-wing loon because he thinks they will let him get away with fraud. He acts like he's on a speed run to ruin his own credibility.
Coming in 2, 2.5, 3, 3.5, oh whatever. In the future Ketamine Karen will introduce a new scam / con / road safety hazard!
Johnny cab hopes you enjoyed the ride
So they didn't unveil it...
At tesla its not an unveiling until musk puts a brick through it
No way in hell is this going to be ready in two years.
Although I do like the idea behind the vehicle.
I'm surprised at his numbers. He claims a bus costs something like $1/mile, while his car would be something like $0.20/mile. I'm guessing the main difference is the driver, so I wonder if something like the robovan (looks stupid IMO) would be able to replace buses in many cases. In my area, we have on-demand transit outside of bus service zones (a van will come pick you up), so it would be cool if this type of service could connect individual riders to transit hubs.
But yeah, it's not going to be ready in two years. Could be cool though if it is and is priced as he stated (big doubt).
I can't wait for another billion dollar company invading our cities with dumbass murder boxes.
"thanks for the honkshack" - Dirty melon husk and the boys
https://www.theverge.com/2024/8/11/24218134/waymo-parking-lot-livestream-honking-4am-san-francisco
Fully self driving too! Snerk.
So glad I have Tesla shorts lol
At first, i was staunchly against this as i am onboard the Fuck Tesla and Musk train.
However, electric auto-taxis would be great in addition to mass transport.
Fuck Musk, btw
Agreed. Although they started the show by showing a slide of how shit subways are.. so I don't think it is in Teslas interest to be an addition to mass transport. And they themselves walk a fine line between selling a consumercar or just reinventing buses
Where I live, there is a bus driver shortage leading to cancelled buses and limited service. Cyber cab, van or bus that runs the route outside of peak hours to give 24/7 service and monitor routes would be a big help. And it's a fixed route so the system can be optimized for those.
They would, but don’t expect it from Tesla. Other companies are making actual, real progress while Musk continues kicking the can down the road with bold promises and no timelines.
a > 30000 vehicle that won't be available for a decade
electric robotaxis can help reduce co2 emissions and decrease the total amount of cars. This is good.
Indeed.
I just doubt his ability to actually bring it to market in any reasonable capacity anytime soon.
It will end up being analogous to Uber and Lyft, and neither helps reducing the amount of cars on the road.
If it works. Don't Teslas still have problems in his stupidass underground Vegas loop? And that's pretty much as ideal driving conditions as you can get.
Ironically that's pretty much the only place where FSD struggles at.
Looks more like the number of cars will stay the same-ish, but now there won't be a taxi driver making a living of it.
In theory.
I also hope this can be a solution for people who need a car to live while reducing the number of individual cars, but I'm afraid Tesla is not really interested in reducing the number of cars.
Robotaxis are NOT going to reduce the number of cars that are filling up the streets and parking spaces.
They are replacing some of the traditional traffic while they carry passengers, and then they add more traffic when going home (or searching for a parking lot, or doing idle circles) after the ride, and when coming for the next passenger.
It will never be $30,000 or less. He did the same thing with the Model 3.
You really just can’t believe anything this guy says regarding his products.
Didn't he say full self drive was two years away at least 5 years ago?
Try 10 years
He said $30,000 for the cybertruck too. $30,000 just seems to be his "I don't really know the price" price.
How much does a banana cost, $30,000?
Now now.
You can't believe anything else he says either.