Its been there awhile with these people....I wish I was kidding but they believe Mexico and other countries that way are so evil this is reasonable. Their stereotypes just seem to get more and more crazy that they believe....
Many conservatives think that Mexico is a problem the same way they think that Native American tribes self governance is a problem. The Mexican history is that of the native Mexicans winning out over the Spanish and forming their country and many conservatives are still pissed about the Alamo because they think we should have kept going south in conquest.
Real patriots want to declare war on Mexico then you're not a real patriot. We need more patriots in this country to make America great again. And we'll make them pay for it! Mark my words Mexico will pay for the wall. Some of them are good people too but they will pay for the wall when we win the war. SAD but TRUE.
He's a fucking idiot, that's not negotiable. He does too many things that do not serve the manipulation of his base that are too dumb to excuse. The meatball has no brain.
They're dumber because lots of them want Trump, but I wouldn't say this makes Americans as a whole dumber because very few of them support DeSantis. He's just throwing random shit out there like this at this point.
We're on the verge of seeing a presidential candidate, during a debate, shove his hand down the back of his pants, pull out a handful of crap, and throw it at his opponent on live television...and still manage to win the election somehow.
Fuck our actual shit world, I want the “makes sense” world.
Those who are losing don't think a pyric victory is all that bad. As the social war wins move more in one direction, I expect to see more bullshittery happen.
The only thing we can do is fight for what's right, and never stop doing that. Things will get better again, eventually. Or the dolphins and the cockroaches will look around at the charred landscape and wonder "WTF?".
Goal post moving for his base. DeSantis “had to” take federal disaster relief money for the damage to his state caused by Hurricane Idiala(?) making him weak in their eyes(or so he believes). So now to appeal to/appease his sycophants he must promise the possibility of pain, poverty and destruction for those less fortunate.
I’m sorry, why the fuck are these people allowed to be in politics? He’s openly advocating for war with our neighbor, get this fuckwad out of politics. Let him go fight a war first-hand if he’s so eager to get his dumbass killed. I feel like a requirement for getting into politics should be some sort of political “killswitch”, as soon as you start talking crazy like this, you’re out.
Nearly all of my friends are Mexican citizens that moved to the States for work or folks that have family in Mexico. Why the fuck does DeSantis think like this?
Hell even the conservative Latinos in the border states couldn't support this nonsense right?
Missing the point on purpose there to fit your agenda? OP is CLEARLY talking about nextdoor neighbors. When Vietnam moves continents, you let us know...
Quick edit - I upvoted your comment on JAG at Gitmo and DeSantis being a black hole for ethics, so I"m genuinely wondering why you're making the point about the Us and Wars.
Tbf he's done a lot to disenfranchise those he doesn't agree with or make it harder for them to vote. All bc that side can't believe they're not popular anymore.....
But has the US ruled out using missiles on desantis
Seriously though, look at the terror Ukraine has been able to accomplish inside Russia with a hell of a lot less than what Mexico has. You guys want missiles blowing shit up in San Antonio and phoenix?
The cartels have been VERY careful keeping their violence on the Mexican side of the border, and not kidnapping Americans (usually), because there's no better way to get yourself connected to God's wifi. A war would basically throw all that out the window. The border towns like San Antonio would erupt with the same sort of cartel violence you see already in Mexico. Families of soldiers in those areas would find themselves turning into targets.
Because they are bullies at heart and the look at the current and past administrations and think they don't bully people enough so when someone offers to be a bully, and represent their interests in a violent manner, they get a hard-on.
I was raised to believe that we're all decent people at heart but to be honest the last 10 years have changed my mind about that. I think some people are just bad eggs now. I'm not proposing to do anything about it but it's just depressing to realize that some people suck beyond the reach of society.
Great comment, and I share a lot of that sentiment. What always confounded me was what portion of these people are textbook evil (eg, psychopathic, greedy/selfish, etc.) versus gullible and ignorant. That is, what percent if we had enough time and educated them enough could we reach? I say this as someone who grew up in a rural Appalachia republican household. My family voted for Bush. My parents marched in pro-life rallies. But fortunately thanks to a couple different factors, my entire family pivoted 180 to become progressive Dems. So they're out there...
Regardless I don't believe it's worth the time to try changing them. I think efforts are better utilized in appealing to the newcomers of politics and fence sitters who haven't been fully sucker into the right-wing echochamber.
"Depending on the circumstances, I would be open to using whatever means available based on our goals and the guidance provided by advisors, including military leadership."
Headline: "Politician doesn't rule out using nuclear weapons against Canada!!!!!!"
How would launching missiles to deal with the Mexican cartel help anyone? Yes, you might end up killing some cartel members near the border, but what happens if you end up hurting civilians that get caught in the crossfire?
There is also no guarantees the cartels won't wise up to this and just start taking and using civilians as meat shields in order to make the soldiers launching the missiles and shooting at them look bad on both sides.
“We would use all available — the tactics, I think, can be debated. If you have something you want to accomplish, people would brief you on the different ways you’d be able to do it,” DeSantis said. “So, that would be dependent on the situation.”