Allowing criminal activity to go unmoderated on the platform. Including but not limited to fraud, drug trafficking, cyberbullying, organized crime and promotion of terrorism.
true but if its truly end to end encrypted it cant be moderated.
between this and mega its clear they want your files easy to reach and access, privacy and security be damned.
the internet should be free for the same reason we have the 2nd amendment - its necessary for exposing and opposing tyranny.
so kill telegram and watch criminal orgs and militant groups just spin up their own servers or use encrypted radio or just encrypt messages themselves to send through any other platform.
its the cops and feds job to investigate these people, they didnt need a fucking all seeing AI to do it in the prior century and they dont now.
i mean seriously what happened to sting operations? its so damn easy to catch predators n shit on discord, and these telegrams are easy enough to join. do actual detective work smfh .
See, this is a tough one. Privacy concerns are legitimate, but also, when people keep reminding that Meta was a key player in acts of terror and genocide what is often not said is that a lot of it happened over Whatsapp groups and direct messages, as in India and Burkina Faso. Direct messaging apps are also social media.
I don't have a solution for this. It's a mess of an issue and honestly, I don't know that I trust anybody with a strong, aggressive position one way or the other.
One thing that has always felt different about Telegram in particular was the large, public groups. I’ve never used WhatsApp but you can’t really get the same virality on something like Signal or plain SMS/RCS/etc. If you can widely share “rich” media, it kinda fits the bill for social media imo.
I think 30+ people died directly in India due to fake message rumors on WhatsApp last year. The rumours were basically of child kidnapping rings doing the rounds and if someone new wandered in into a secluded community, they would be suspected and in rare cases, killed. Since India saw an exceptional implosion in smartphone usage in recent years and WhatsApp is the most popular messaging platform there, it's a travesty that it happened.
Stringent supporters of privacy will tell you it has no ill effects, and any policies obstructing it aren't preventing illegal activity, including child pornography. Maybe they feel like they just have to say this, as it's the most-effective thing to say, but it seems fairly obviously to be untrue, and I would argue counter-productive. I'm confident whatever government (French or otherwise) cares more about knowing and controlling everything than they do about preventing crime, but to say it couldn't or wouldn't prevent crime I can only interpret as a bad faith argument. So bad faith on both sides, as per usual.
Personally, I just think the good outweighs the bad. We just can't expect literally everyone to forfeit any sense of privacy because some criminals are going to use it to commit crimes. That's a super dangerous precedent. You're just going to have to find other ways to track them down, or accept that crime as a casualty of privacy and freedom.
Not being end-to-end encrypted is meaningless to law enforcement if Telegram refuses to turn over the chat contents (which they do). Law enforcement can't just eavesdrop on the conversation without Telegram's cooperation. The chat contents are still secured by TLS from the user's device to the Telegram servers.
Smart professional criminals rarely use Telegram for this stuff anyway. There's WhatsApp and plenty of other popular platforms of end-to-end encrypted
if Telegram refuses to turn over the chat contents (which they do)
Source?
Law enforcement can't just eavesdrop on the conversation without Telegram's cooperation
Why do you think Roskomnadzor gave up their blockage plans in 2018? And then made their own official government channels? "It's technically difficult for us" has never stopped Roskomnadzor before.
He was travelling from Azerbaijan, where he had been meeting with Putin. There is a theory that he knew he would be arrested and chose to go there to avoid retaliation and falling out of a window.
Alternatively: It is not (and generally not even encrypted) and he just happened to be in contempt.
Plenty of military-oriented and shady-business going in in there.
There's still the possibility that the authorities wanted to go after specific someones with a proper warrant and Durov blocked it. No country on earth goes for that.
During my time as an amateur disinfo researcher I found that ALL the fascist groups are on Telegram. Also all the antivaxers, qanon nuts, maga, conspiracy theorists the lot. One big fash melting pot.
It's okay to not tolerate hatred, fascists and misinformation.
The paradox of tolerance states that if a society's practice of tolerance is inclusive of the intolerant, intolerance will ultimately dominate, eliminating the tolerant and the practice of tolerance with them.
But yeah, the charges just seem like an excuse because this happens on every platform, sometimes they get moderated fast and sometimes those groups/users can last months or years. Telegram's support and moderation is abysmal, but I've seen accounts and groups get banned after I report them, but sending him to prision seems an overreaction or they are after something else.
So, instead of fixing the cesspool we just designate a place for them? Why not just going after the ones committing crimes and state that big public groups must have moderation for basic shit? (Like no death threats and that kind of "moderation", not a "I don't like your opinions)