Harris picks Walz for VP
Harris picks Walz for VP
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Tim Walz is Kamala Harris' pick for VP: report
I was sure it was going to be professional genocide ghoul Shapiro. Color me surprised.
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Hmm, they're actually trying to win and it seems like Trump is kinda floundering currently. 3 months left but it's looking up for Kamala.
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Look it's probably the best outcome possible for the Dems.
As communists the result of this election simply alters the nature of the fight, not the difficulty, but this makes all our enemies mad and may wrest some small concessions so it's fun. Let's just enjoy the moment.
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I'm celebrating that Shapiro did not get the nod. That's a win in my book.
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I'd rather struggle against ruling class representatives who are willing to negotiate to some extent, instead of ones who want to throw us all out of helicopters. I haven't been this close to engaging in (national) electoral politics since Bernie. Which means the controlled opposition is doing its job very well, kudos
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I think this might actually be good news. Not because Waltz is better than Shapiro electorally (although he is, by a lot) because I'm not exactly super invested in Kamala winning, but I have a glimmer of hope this might be a positive signal for the direction of her foreign policy. Netanyahu is trying to start a regional war and to lock any future US administration into that war. Picking the turbo-Zionist Shapiro would have been an unmistakable signal that a future Harris administration would follow Netanyahu into that war. Snubbing him for a more moderate/progressive pick potentially signals a willingness to break from Israeli positions.
And again, not that I'm rooting super hard for Kamala, but it is notable to see democrats not picking the option that divides their base and puts them on the defensive when everything was going their way. Shapiro has multiple glaring liabilities- comparing anti-genocide protesters to the KKK, supporting Charter schools, possibly covering up the murder of his major donor's fiance- and if they picked him, they would have had to scold their voters into shutting up while Republicans gleefully pounced on him. I'm so used to democrats shooting themselves in the foot and going into scold-mode that it's actually sort of noteworthy when they don't.
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Yeah, I agree entirely. It is at least a sign that she may have a real threshold when it comes to support for Israel, which is probably about the best we can hope for from the Democrats. Picking Shapiro would have been a signal that she is all in on the genocide, so it's at least worth celebrating that she went another way. I don't really expect this to turn into meaningful support for Palestine, but it does at least represent a step back from total bloodthirsty support of Israel, which is what we've gotten with Biden (and which is increasingly unpopular with the Democratic voters). As you said, maybe it at least means she wouldn't fall in line with Israel attempting to subjugate an entire region of the planet.
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If she picked Shapiro, I would have interpreted it as a genuine middle finger to myself and everyone else who was opposed to genocide.
This pic, is more like patting what's on the head and telling us that she hears and sees us. While she continues the genocide.
So like, it's better than the alternative, but I'm still waiting for her to do something.
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the right might attack the Harris campaign from a pro-zion position and it'll create a bit of an interesting situation, we'll see what they do with that. It gives them an escape hatch, where the Dems can turn on netanyahu and lump him with the right wing
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There's not really any precedent for the Dems to actually make that big of a positive turn. Why would they turn around on Israel? The support of Israel as an imperialist project is especially critical with the advent of BRICS and multipolarity. It would drastically accelerate the imperial decline if they stopped paying their mercenaries.
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Objectively the best that can happen for the dems is Trump wins. They resurge in the typical midterm comeback, render Trump a lame duck for two years and have an open shot in 2028 for Obama 2.0, which they would fuck up anyways. Which is why I say we really wont have another real shot until 2036/2040 when boomercide is at it's peak, but then they will thrust us into WW3 to deny us yet again a peace dividend.
God I want out so bad.
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deep condolences to comrade @Frank@hexbear.net who has lived under the the Walz regime
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I will allow that he is one of the least bad dems.
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the lowest of the bars
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Whoever said Kamala is doing a Keir Starmer speedrun I think hit the nail on the head
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I welcome Tim Walz, it's a sensible choice, a moderate approach, but I implore the Democrats to go further. Walz should invite JD Vance to drink from the puddle to prove which one of them is the least gay
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Love me a super-progressive ticket where both candidates are in bed with gig economy ghouls and enjoy siccing the police state on people. Can't wait to hear how excited my
friends are!(This was the lesser of four evils, or however many people she had on her shortlist, and it's still a guy who teargassed his largest city. The Democrats, folks!)
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I'm still kind of surprised they didn't go with Liz Cheney or something. Didn't Matty Y float Mitt Romney? That's the level of decision making I've come to expect from the Democrats.
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Dems not stepping on rakes? what the hell is happening?
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What is going on?
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A somewhat progressive governor (who has photos with zionazis) is getting neutered andnthey are trying to dupe "the left" into voting for
https://jewishinsider.com/2024/08/minnesota-gov-tim-walz-veepstakes-bid-progressive-kamala-harris/
Walz also spoke at AIPAC’s 2010 conference, underscoring the importance of the U.S.-Israel alliance to the pro-Israel group. “Israel is our truest and closest ally in the region, with a commitment to values of personal freedoms and liberties, surrounded by a pretty tough neighborhood,” he said in his address that year.
HOW'S GENOCIDE GOVERNOR?! IS GENOCIDE AND APARTHIED YOUR PERSONAL FREEDOMS AND LIBERTIES?EDIT /r/TheDeprogram is white knighting this guy. He's a DEMOCRAT EVERYONE. Moderate wing of fascism yadda yadda... get over him yesterday.
Ok maybe not totally, but stay woke
y'all
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This is one of most popular posts on Bluesky.
with a wine mom and a public school dad on the ticket you can really think of this year's democratic ballot as the ultimate triumph of resistance libs
https://subium.com/profile/jbouie.bsky.social/post/3kz2jirwarc2a
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It's only ~1 hour old and it has 2.8k likes which is quite a lot for that site. I bet the post will surely become the most popular in a 24 hour period.
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yeah and did nothing about enbridge creating a piggy slush fund and directly paying the cops to brutalize protesters about it.
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Ok I opened this about 5 min ago, and went to open it again and now its gone. Here is a cache URL: https://cc.bingj.com/cache.aspx?q=url%3ahttps%3a%2f%2fwww.startribune.com%2fenbridge-aquifer-water-oil-pipeline-line-3-environment-climate-change-aitkin-county-moose-lake-peat%2f600293054&d=5056362362206535&mkt=en-US&setlang=en-US&w=1VgEAn2FKCD7Xl4rUcDBoC0p7hV0oOXr
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God watching 2016 round 2 is gunna be devastating for the libs in here..
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The outcome should be extremely funny either way. Either they beat Trump handily and both Trump and Hillary Clinton immediately explode, or 2016 2 happens and libs immediately explode. Looking at lots of the world's worst people being super mad no matter what happens.
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Yeah it will be shocking because there is no possible surprise left. Trump was an outsider, he campaigned on so many different stances that are completely different from how his own base see him now. Who exactly is embarrassed to say they're voting for Trump now for example? Look at that RNC cult shit with them all wearing the ear bandage or whatever. Absolutely pathetic but also a glimpse of how completely proud they are.
Also Hillary was definitely far more like Biden's path, even he could have had a better chance if he wasn't such a deranged out of touch nazi and zionist. Fucking talking about Bidenomics and NATO while people can't afford rent lol.
If the new team is even remotely more competent, which seems like it, its realy hard to imagine this being like 2016 at all.
Also while all this happens Trump fumbled with the Vance shit already. He can't even be as competent as he was in 2016 anyway.
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Kelly made more sense imo. He could totally take the wind out of the Republicans' sails on the attempted Trump assassination because he's married to Gabby Giffords and she got way worse than a free industrial ear piercing, and they could go on the attack on gun control and make it personal. (I know the Dems would never go on the attack other than "sir have you no decency" and "he did document stuff wrong" but still)
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I feel like he would be a good pick in another year but at this stage of the game Walz’s clipability and charisma (the “weird” things) are probably a better choice.
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Unions didn't like him, plus the dems would need to try to win his senate seat in a special election.
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They only had one dem they could reasonably contest Sinema’s open seat with. They wouldn’t be able to keep the other Senate seat as well.
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I'm having a really hard time finding something to complain about this pick.
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look up his record on uber/lyft driver protections, hospital staffing bill, calling in the national guard after george floyd
Nothing any other dem wouldn't have also done, tbh, but he is still a dem, there's plenty to be mad about
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I think he's definitely the least bad of the options she was picking from (which is, again, shocking), but he's still no leftist or even SocDem. His handling of the George Floyd protests in Minneapolis was abysmal. He's just not a rabid genocide cheerleader or a finance ghoul.
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I think I'm just pleasantly surprised.
My expectation was so low that a ham sandwich would have been a good pick.
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He did the brutal crackdown on Minneapolis.
Governor Tim Walz activated the Minnesota National Guard in response to civil unrest. The 7,123 troops activated represented the largest deployment of the state's forces since World War II.[35] By early June 2020, violence in the Minneapolis–Saint Paul metropolitan area had resulted in at least two deaths,[36] 604 arrests, and more than $500 million[7] in damage to approximately 1,500 properties, the second-most destructive period of local unrest in U.S. history, after the 1992 Los Angeles riots.[37][8][38][39] Violent protests in Minneapolis–Saint Paul over Floyd's murder largely subsided after May 30, 2020.[30][40] The Minnesota National Guard and a multi-jurisdiction government command that responded to the riots demobilized on June 7, 2020.[41][35]
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What the White House needs right now is a nice heavy pair of Harri(s) Walz
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Ballz to the Walz
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There will be widespread vandalism on their yard signs to be some variation of Harry's or Harriest Balz. The media will try to spin this as misogyny -
Well, misogyny is pretty fundamental to capitalism, and therefore the US. The only spin the media is making is that misogyny is some special conservative problem and not a liberal problem too.
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not voting unless they both commit to ending arms shipments to
until a permanent ceasefire is reached, simple as -
i have already had one annoying conversation about these two and i know it's nowhere near the last
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Thank fucking god honestly. Shapiro pick would have been a nightmare regardless of your thoughts on voting. An arch-zionist who volunteered for the IOF one assassination away from the presidency.
Also literally helped cover up a Murder and had sexual harassment allegations in his office. I wouldn't be surprised if that played more of a role than the zionism.
I mean let's be honest the zionism didn't play a role
Yeah that's exactly why I was sure they would pick him. Astonishing to see the Dems not go with the worst, dumbest option available to try to appeal to the worst people in the country.
It's so funny that they are going to handily beat trump by simply not making the exact worst decision possible at every turn (like second or third worst maybe idk).
Such a contrast from picking Clinton and Biden twice.
Yeah, Walz is far from a lefty candidate, but given the track record of the dems, I thought when it came down to him and Shapiro, they would make the same bad choice they've made basically my entire life. Not a victory by any stretch, but at least not the worst option for a change.