12mo ago

The Obamas Endorse Harris: 'This Is Going to Be Historic'

www.rollingstone.com

The former president and first lady threw their weight behind the presumptive Democratic nominee

Barack and Michelle Obama have endorsed Kamala Harris for the Democratic nomination for president, sharing the news in a joint phone call.

A video released by the campaign suggests the former president and first lady called Harris on Thursday while the vice president was in Houston, where she addressed the American Federation of Teachers and received a briefing on recovery efforts following Hurricane Beryl.

“We called to say, Michelle and I couldn’t be prouder to endorse you and do everything we can to get you through this election and into the Oval Office,” Barack Obama is heard telling Harris in a 55-second video of the call.

“This is going to be historic,” Michelle Obama tells Harris.

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12mo ago

The Obamas Endorse Harris: 'This Is Going to Be Historic'

www.rollingstone.com /politics/politics-news/barack-obama-michelle-obama-endorse-kamala-harris-president-1235068511/

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Michelle: When they go low we go high.
Kamala: Let the meme trolling begin!
If we do end up descending into a Draconian hellhole of an autocratic dictatorship at least the election run-up is going to be exponentially more entertaining than it was going to be with Joe.
I say that dictatorship part because don't think for a second that the GOP is gonna just roll over and die. Expect hard-line challenges to vote counts in every single swing state.
- I say that dictatorship part because don’t think for a second that the GOP is gonna just roll over and die. Expect hard-line challenges to vote counts in every single swing state.
  I've been saying this since Sunday. We just blew up the Death Star, but the Empire is still a threat. The fight ain't over, yet.
  
  How did we blow up the Death Star? No victories have been achieved yet.
  This is more like Han hanging over the reigns of the Millenium Falcon to Lando in RotJ. The battle hasn’t even begun.
- There's a solution to prevent their civil war plans. You got to crush them at the polling stations so hard that every question about foul play gets destroyed in its roots.
- Donald Trump could very well roll over and die and I would be ok with that. The only downside is not getting to know that he is in prison being miserable
  
  The Heritage Foundation and its plan to cement autocratic fascist rule in the US will survive Trump.
  
  Somehow he'd still have a voice in prison. Kinda like all those interviews with Ted Bundy and Charles Manson et al.
  His biggest misery would be to be alive and completely silenced.
  
  Donald Trump is 78 years old, that is not unheard of that people might die at that age of entirely natural causes.
- Expect hard-line challenges to vote counts in every single swing state.
  Exactly like they did last time? Remember Rudy Giuliani doing all these shenanigans last time? Cyber ninjas?
  Only difference is that I find it doubtful Joe Biden will try to disrupt proceedings on January 6, 2025. I think it would be awkward for him to ask his VP to not certify the results if Kamala Harris wins.
- The list of things “the Democrats want to take away” is going to be massive.
  
  guns
  freedom
  ~~profitable~~ good healthcare
  freedom
  national security
  guns
  ~~white supremacy~~ The American Way
  Your rights ~~if you count~~
  christianity?
  freedom
  ~~transphobia~~ family values
  the cops' ability to commit unchecked violence
  guns and freedom
  1940s textbooks
  All of these things are at risk.
  
  So far their biggest whinge is plastic straws. Not the hill most voters are willing to die on
Brace yourself for a massive disinformation campaign against Harris as soon as they recover from the initial shock. Don't buy into any crap you see about her going forward. Eat no for breakfast.
- I already saw a photoshopped picture of her hugging Epstein. It was her hugging her husband with Epstein's head
  Took 1 google search to debunk. But morons on FB shared it anyway.
  
  We should combat this by Photoshopping her head on Trump's body with already well establish photos of trump/Epstein
  
  I hope there will be an investigation on how much foreign influence there is in this election. So much of the fake news and trash social media posts are Putin’s playbook. The attack on Ukraine isn’t the only war he’s trying to fight
  
  Ironic when you think about how many of Epstein's friends were leaders of nations and well known academics.
  
  Pretty weird considering we know a certain presidential candidate who was actually friends with him lol
- Brace yourself for a massive disinformation campaign
  I've been braced since 1980.
- They will do their silly ignorant memes, but they’ll also amplify the kind of valid criticism of her that left leaning voters raise themselves. That’s harder to handle, because there is a lot of valid criticism.
  It’s still hugely important to vote against Christian fascists, but it doesn’t feel good to do. Conservatives will amplify that sentiment to get left leaning people to not vote or to vote 3rd party.
- Don't buy into any crap you see about her going forward. Eat no for breakfast.
  This is the exact attitude that led Republicans into being able to believe that Trump is an upright and moral citizen......
  No one should write a blank check of virtue for any politician. Valid criticism is important, without it we're just going to be led around by the nose by those who have access to power.
  If we don't hold liberal politicians to the same standards we utilize for conservatives, then we will end up with the same type of shit bags they have.
  
  This is the exact attitude that led Republicans into being able to believe that Trump is an upright and moral citizen......
  No, not even close to the same thing.
  Maybe you're too young to remember, but Trump has a very long history of being a massive, racist, piece of shit. He is literally the archetype of nearly every movie and cartoon villain in the 90s (not even kidding, Some More News did a whole video on it, it's actually insane).
  He was notorious for not paying his contractors, and instead telling them to sue him, knowing there was no way they could afford to win a case against him.
  He was notorious for blatantly racist housing policies at his properties.
  He was notorious for taking out a full page ad in the New York Times basically saying we should still kill the (recently found innocent) Central Park Five regardless of their guilt (guess their skin color).
  You can't even make this comparison, it's absurd.
  
  There is a biiiig difference in the timing and source of the news. And especially in the short term every new bit of news about her should at least be treated as suspect.
  
  No. No no no.
  I swear nobody remembers the days we all knew he was shit, watch back the future there is literally a parody of what everyone knew Trump was.
  
  Oh good grief, don't put words in my mouth. That's not what I said and you know it. I said don't buy the crap that we're about to be flooded with. I never said you can't criticize her. You can believe and criticize any valid reality-based you want to, but check the facts first.
  
  just be skeptical of any claims made by the lunatic contingent that hates women and democrats.
- It's all propaganda on both sides.
  
  bOtH SiDeS
  
  Entire Internet feels like a propaganda warzone nowadays. It used to be possible to have civil, open-minded discussions, not anymore.
Republicans are so angry these days with Harris. First it was the Obama’s did not indorse her because she can’t win now they are just really angry. They know they are going to lose. I love it.
- They know they are going to lose.
  Never assume, fucking vote if you can people.
Republicans: > "We want change and Biden out"
Democrats: > "Great, vote for Harris" Republicans: > "noOoo noT like tHat!"
- That’s not allowed!!! Call the foul ref!!!
  
  'Stop counting!', says the man who thinks math is what you burn and inhale if you are poor.
Wow, in actually starting to feel a little hope for the future of this world. Trump as president will be a disaster for this entire world, all of US. All citizens in the world should have a vote since the US has made itself so important, yet all of us depend on democrats who aren't sure if they should vote and religious extremists who want trump.
Well, that's surprising. /s
This is frustrating. She couldn't handle a primary run 5 years ago. Now the entire Party is just lining up as if she's unquestionably the greatest candidate the world has to offer.
Prior to this, the only Democrat less popular than her, was Biden.
Nobody knows what she'll actually do in office because she's only ever said or supported whatever will help her at the moment.
EDIT: Thank you all. I had a good time today debating, discussing, reading, even occasionally learning.
Some of you engaged well, I upvoted. Some of you didn't. I rarely downvote though, and never did here.
I appreciate you all, and hope you all have a good one.
Even Kamala Harris. I hope to see her succeed beyond all our expectations. Even if mine are quite low.
- Is that really the best we can hope for? Or ask for? Someone who's better than Trump?
- Biden couldn't handle a primary run in 2008, but he killed in 2020.
  Times change. Circumstances change. People change. And if the enthusiasm that has come out over the past week, both from her and from the party base, is any indication, Harris in 2024 is in a much better place than she was in 2020.
  
  Honestly, after his failed 1987 primary challenge, I'm surprised he ever got back on his feet in terms of politics at all.
  He plagiarized a speech by a British politician and got caught, he was involved in a scandal involving his law school grades and he lied about his participation in the civil rights movement (or at least greatly exaggerated it).
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biden_1988_presidential_campaign#Summer_1987
  On top of that, after dropping out, he had two brain aneurysms.
  It's pretty amazing he got elected president in 2020.
  
  Biden didn't kill it in 2020. Bernie won the first few states, so the DNC freaked out and pushed the other candidates to drop out and endorse Joe. After that, the media lined up to declare him the presumptive nominee.
  Kamala was a better speaker than Joe in 2020. Her comments about being one of the black kids on the busses aimed at Biden was accurate and scathing. But she followed the party mandate and bowed out.
  Why is everyone's memory so short about these things?
  She's a far sight better than Trump or Biden.
- she was in a primary with biden in the center and about 15 other progressives on the left. she was always popular; it's just bernie occupied the left flank of the primary and everyone else was crumbs.
- Oh. Look. It's the exact message we all knew was coming. "Good thing we got rid of Biden, but now we have another terrible candidate."
  
  Yes! Exactly!
  All the Democrats seem capable of, are terrible presidential candates. Obama seemed like a great candate for a ... Change. But turned out to be quite mid.
- She was in the Senate. She has a voting record. Go look at it.
- You know who else couldn't handle a primary run (twice) before they were elected president? Joe Biden.
  
  Yah. I don't know why anyone thought he was a good option either.
- You know she was a Senator, right? You know those votes are public record, right?
- Biden was in several primaries. Only recently did he get enough traction. Just Obama was more popular. That's actually a common pattern, that eventual Presidents had to lose a few primaries to get where they are today.
- Alright. Here's your chance:
  Who would you choose?
  Be prepared to defend your answer.
  
  No idea.
  The party never presented any real chance to compare options. That's the problem. We could've had a dozen debates with anyone polling over 0.1%. Like the Republicans. But that never happened.
  If we had, maybe it'd be clear she's the best choice.
- Nobody knows what she'll actually do in office
  I don't have any reason to believe Harris would do anything radically different than what Biden would have done. That makes her far from ideal, in my opinion, but nonetheless still much better than Trump. That's the only thing the Democrats really have going for them at this point: they remain better than the only other viable political alternative. Admittedly, that is a LOW bar, in my opinion, but that's where we are in America right now. I have given up trying to make America the way I want to be, and am instead focused primarily on harm reduction.
  
  Agreed. Just kind of more of the same seems likely. I just think we could use and deserve better.
- Prior to this, the only Democrat less popular than her, was Biden.
  Well at least she's more popular than Biden then.
  
  Yes. That's our great hope. Someone slightly better than the worst option.

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