Jon Stewart’s ‘told you so’ about Biden was the scolding we needed
Jon Stewart’s ‘told you so’ about Biden was the scolding we needed
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Opinion | Jon Stewart’s ‘told you so’ about Biden was the scolding we needed
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It's pretty clear that Biden should've stepped down as soon as COVID 'ended' and he passed his big infrastructure/climate bill.
He'd have been a modern Cincinnatus, and would have given Harris the best opportunity to make her case to the voters.
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If he chose an actual VP people wanted, it would have worked.
Harris has an even worse chance of winning considering no one wanted her in the primaries.
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Harris SUCKS and she would have lost worse than Hillary. She was always an awful VP which is part of our predicament.
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I was so giddy over Buttigieg in '20. Followed by Elizabeth Warren. Biden was my 4th or 5th pick, with Kamala just before Amy Klobachar at last place. She's just unlikeable.
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Why is she an awful VP? I hear people say this all the time and never really substantiate it other than she’s awkward at public speaking sometimes. I genuinely don’t know much about her other than that.
Plus she’s currently polled as the best replacement to Biden as it is right now. And personally I think that’s who Dems should go with if they actually want to win. I don’t see how you pull Biden back in the polls after that debate. You just don’t. So we have to clench our asses and hope those polls are wrong? It’s like watching a car crash in slow motion.
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Biden is open game until the convention. After that it is time to circle the wagons.
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The wagons were already circled with that joke of a primary.
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Biden needs to fuck off. He’s going to lose us the Republic.
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You see it. I see it. Jon Stewart sees it since forever.
The shills on Lemmy and other places like gaslighting. A lot.
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Honestly, I hate the situation, but I haven’t heard any compelling arguments for alternatives.
By compelling, I don’t mean appealing. I’d love for any number of other candidates to just swap in. But because the U.S. got “Weekend at Bernie’d”, and primaries were held (with no realistic opposition candidates), or cancelled in the case of Florida and Delaware, and the dates for holding a primary have passed in every state, I just… don’t see how another candidate can be swapped in.*
And I know that John Stewart specifically called out other nations who were able to call entire elections within a few months, but the U.S. electoral system just doesn’t ‘do’ that. The focus on states rights means that every state has its own laws that are fairly rigid and cannot be overridden by the federal government. And even if the states could be overridden - well, I guess I don’t know if it’s possible for the federal government to do that.
I don’t believe I’ve ever heard of that suggestion as being even a remote possibility. I’m left with the belief that it is not legally permissible.In fact - the Heritage Foundation said they would mount legal challenges to prevent this from occurring - but only in certain states. It’s very likely those challenges could not be resolved before the election, which would lead to at least two Democratic Party candidates, and certain defeat for both of them. The only way that Biden could drop out is if the states that have laws prohibiting candidate changes repeal or modify them, and that itself might be the subject of lawsuits.
*The only way I see for Biden to drop out and not ensure certain defeat is to die. That’s the only path I can think of that’s workable.
If I truly believe that Trump will end democracy and I must do everything I can to prevent his election - even if it compromises my better judgment and morals, and I know that Biden will not use the powers he was just granted to ensure that Trump is brought to justice before he can assume dictatorial powers, then… well, what’s the option but to be a shill? That’s not a rhetorical question. I legitimately feel trapped and hopeless by this shitty system, and I cannot see a way out.
I feel like I’m damned if I do, and damned if I don’t. -
The gaslighting is really pervasive, and most troubling. This is not the way to combat the fascists with their “alternative facts.”
Biden built his career on being a Republican basically - he was known as the Senator of “bipartisan compromise” who would always rush to give republicans whatever they wanted. Putting heads in the sand and pretending that we have to roll with Republican-lite to defeat a fascist uprising just seems incredibly foolish to me. Or pretending that Biden is even sound of mind anymore, for that matter. People don’t seem willing to have an honest conversation about anything anymore. Very unhealthy democracy right now.
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IMHO, calling people shills is just going to make people defensive and not listen to reasonable arguments.
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Yes yes the people on lemmy who disagree with you are the real powers behind the decision on whether he drops out or not
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I have a feeling the DNC shills we've been seeing so much of are actually part of a DNC campaign. Creating a Lemmy account is free and they could easily contract a company to astroturf as has been done in the past.
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When politicians and their families taste power they can't let it go.
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Biden's chances of winning are something like 95%. The most accurate and seasoned model for predicting the election has him winning (it's a boolean) and it was only wrong once, which was when Bush got a controversial ruling in his favor by the Supreme Court, which knocks its accuracy down to ~95% instead of 100%.
Also consider: Trump already lost to Biden, Trump's popularity has contracted since then, 538 puts Biden 2% above where he was before the debate, all of the polls that put Biden and Trump neck-and-neck also show 18-25 YOs overwhelmingly voting for Trump, Dems win with higher voter turnout, the recent controversy with the Supreme Court is looking to drive people to the polls in record numbers, and people are currently looking up "Project 2025" more than Taylor Swift and the NFL combined (it's probably going to be searched more than Taylor Swift at her peak, if you look at the growth curve).
So why, exactly, are you making this claim? 🤨
Edit: y'all're doomers who hate facts.
Edit2: The 13 Keys to the White House. That's the subject of the 1st paragraph.
Edit3: I'm not responding to anyone who isn't putting forth an argument or demanding evidence while giving none. I'm sick of talking with dishonest creeps for the week.
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The video:
Jon Stewart Examines Biden’s Future Amidst Calls For Him to Drop Out https://youtu.be/S9LZXheHddI
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Yeah, sorry, all of this shit has been on full display since day one. We always knew he was a senile career politician invested in maintaining the status quo. What, you think all of us who were genuinely excited about Bernie Sanders didn't all fucking see this? Like the DNC isn't a corrupt organization? EVERYONE KNEW THIS. What, now that we're facing this fascist existential threat is when you wanna bring it up?
Hey guys I know that the demon king showed up out of the portal to hell, and we placed all of our faith and hope in defeating him with this aging warrior, but how about right before he goes into battle we ridicule and taunt him? Especially since the power that the warrior has is derived from those that support him, let's just make sure that after the corrupt org forces this dumbass fucking "solution" onto us, and makes us all realize that him losing means we end up speed-running a fascist dictatorship, let's just make sure to shoot our warrior in both kneecaps right before his big fight. Can we do that? Can we just place all of our hopes and dreams into this one vessel and then fucking shoot it because for some reason NOW neo-liberals are just waking up to what everyone else has known SINCE DAY FUCKING ONE!?
The time for this was before the South Carolina primary in 2016 and 2020. Not now. No, 4 months isn't enough fucking time. Every moron who forced Biden down our throats deserves the next 4 months of pant-shitting nightmares because this is their fucking fault. But anyone saying this bullshit now is just trying to score points like this is a fucking game. It's not. It's our lives and the future of our fucking planet. just vote for progressives, and when you can't vote for the democrat.
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Huh.
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^huh!
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thank you Jon Stewart please come to my house
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Horniest Lemmy user
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You sure? There's some VERY stiff competition, pun intended.
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MSNBC: Jon Stewart is out of line!
MSNBC one month later: Okay, point taken...
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Biden is going to get fucking trounced. But he'll have given it "his all".
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Didn't you know that presidential candidates are held to the same standards as children at t-ball games?
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Hey! You take that back. He answered all his questions.
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These threads are great at baiting the .ml tankies out so I can block them. It'd be nice if server blocks also blocked all their members, but Tank traps like this'll have to do for now
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I think you opened the wrong app, maybe you wanted to open notepad so you can be sure you are the only one typing in there.
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Lmao
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Biden should resign and let the VP take over. It's why he picked her. The man just introduced Zelensky as "President Putin". Good grief. His handler should be charged with elderly abuse.
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I hate Kamala, but I agree. He's not fit to be president. It's high time to pass it off to the VP. That's how the system is intended to work.
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I didn't need shit. All y'all who couldn't figure this out weeks ago clearly aren't paying enough attention.
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Weeks ago? I'm talking years ago.
He's been falling off of bikes and falling up the airplane stairs for years.
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This thread has steered so deeply into surrealism i can't even understand what sides you bots are taking.
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In which ways?
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I was at the n-th comment where i couldn't honestly tell whether they were serious or ironic and for what side, I'll look up some examples if i have time later
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Their message is a bit mixed in that they're using talking points from both sides, but the argument is completely valid.
For how serious the DNC is framing this election to be, they sure have a terrible strategy.
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I don't know why Biden voters don't listen to non-Biden voters.. over and over and over people have been pointing out his mental decline. But nope, they're just all Biden hating trolls. But NOW, NOW... he has failing mental faculties. I don't understand how people are entered into the Matrix. Does this happen during childhood / youth? It's mind boggling. And no Republicans aren't safe from the Matrix, they're in the same fkin simulation as the left but on the opposite side.
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They get downvoted once and cry, then they decide to just repeat whatever the DNC leaders say.
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Who cares how bad/lost Biden is at debates or interviews. That is not what he will be doing as president. He will be discussing policy with advisors in meeting where further discussion where rewrites are made with further discussions and more rewrites.
Stewart spent almost no time at all on the treasonous acts of the other candidate like pushing for fake electors and attempting to subvert the peaceful transfer of power. The guy mumbling through an interview was funnier to talk about while the treasonous guy is just too boring cause we already talked about the treasonous stuff...gahh
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Look, this is what I would say to people who asked "who cares if Trump is an unprofessional ass?" The president represents all of us on the world stage. He's the one American most of the world knows. It IS ALSO the president's job to go and speak with anyone we need him to, to represent us faithfully as the most polished representation of the American people. If Biden can't communicate, if he's just going to mumble at other dead leaders at G7, then he literally can't do the job.
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To be fair, the second half of his argument addressed why he thought it was important to focus on Biden, and not Trump for that segment.
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So John Stewart is a tankie now too? Welcome to the club, comrade.
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Stewart is basically calling for a primary, which we already had, which was known for years ahead of time would happen, which literally anybody could run in, and yet nobody significant seemed interested in running. I voted in the primary, there was more than one person to vote for, Biden even lost his primary in American Samoa. To say there was "no primary" is a lie, and suggesting a party swap out a candidate who already won a primary, and by doing so throw out the votes of millions of Americans who participated in that primary process, is anti-democatic. Do you want people to switch parties and vote in the republican primary? Because that's how you do it. Did the DNC learn nothing from getting caught trying to crush Bernie's primary chances?
You lose voters you disenfranchise, period. I don't care how good the DNC's legislative aims are, if my primary vote literally does not matter, why would I ever vote in their primary again?
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Stewart is basically calling for a primary, which we already had, which was known for years ahead of time would happen, which literally anybody could run in, and yet nobody significant seemed interested in running.
...which was also canceled in many states, which you conveniently leave out. Biden was not elected, he is simply the incumbent. His candidacy does not reflect the will of the voters and you know it. The denial needs to stop.
The only reason someone would be advocating for Biden at this point is they want a Trump presidency. Biden cannot win.
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We didn't have a primary. Dean Phillips was the only real Democrat challenging Biden, he wasn't on the ballot in half the states, and he was run out of the party for challenging the incumbent. They forced him to step down from leadership, they got someone to primary him for his house seat, and he's now dropped out of politics.
But let's ignore that for a minute. The administration and the DNC also kept Biden's decline from the public. They carefully manipulated his public appearances to make sure his mental state wasn't fully known until he was on a debate stage with Trump. The voters were defrauded. The result of that fraud is that we are saddled with a candidate that cannot win. Demanding the DNC fix this colossal fuck-up so we have a shot of winning isn't just fair, it's the only reasonable course of action at this point.
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Do you remember the special investigator's report into Biden keeping classified documents? They said Biden legitimately had a really bad memory at the time forgetting many important life events, and the Biden campaign then tried having them change it and then Biden claimed executive privilege over the tapes? The Biden campaign literally used executive privilege to try to prevent Biden's memory issues from becoming public.
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Philips was even more centrist than Biden, but he at least was willing to step up himself when he couldn't recruit anyone else to challenge Biden for being too old. This very circumstance was the whole reason he ran.
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That's bullshit. There was not one debate, Biden didn't even campaign, and now we know why; because the Biden campaign was deliberately obfuscating his condition until the "primary" was over. If they hadn't lied to the voters, the primary would have actually happened and maybe looked a lot different.
Edit: and since when has the DNC cared about the will of the voters? They clearly haven't given two shits about that since at least '16. Why suddenly care about it now unless it's a bad faith argument?
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There was effectively no primary -- no legitimate other candidate was on the ballot in my state -- because they fed us the impression that Biden was totally fine cognitively.
And then the debate happened. There was no realistic way anybody but Joe Biden came out of this primary, and I think that in itself is pretty anti-democratic.
Not that any of it matters in the end, because Biden is not going to step aside and I don't think Democrats have the power to push him to the side.
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if my primary vote literally does not matter, why would I ever vote in their primary again?
Exactly. When one primary candidate won in 2016, the party nominated the other candidate. Your primary vote doesn't matter. SCOTUS even agreed with you, stating that if one doesn't like how private organizations run their primaries then they shouldn't participate in them.
Why would anyone ever vote in the primary again?
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Are you talking about Bernie? He literally got less primary votes, thats why he lost, period. I agree the DNC tried to fuck him over, but at the end of the day he got less votes and that's all there is to it. If Bernie's voters were as vote-happy as they were loud, he would have been the winner of the primary.
They implemented a number of reforms after Wikileaks exposed their corrupt practices, their primary system is more fair and robust than it was in 2016. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries#Reforms_since_2016
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I like Jon Stewart. I usually agree with him.
Today he's part of the problem. I don't want to be in the position where we talk about losing an election to 'both-sides-ism" and "but his stammer", because the part where we say "I told you if you prevented people from voting to preserve democracy we'd lose it" is a really poor consolation prize. Get back to slamming sleepy joe once this thing's over, okay? #binaryChoice
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The problem is that most of the people calling for 46 to step asside dont propose a replacement. Its a destructive request to remove something without a plan or proposal to replace it. Stewarts proposal to have a convention have it decide on someone and have them square off against joe is so far the only constructive suggestion anyone with a platform has made thus far.
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At this point it is just dangerous to propose alternatives. If you don't understand you are part of the problem. It's like republicans realised Trump is also a walking corpse and is not going to distract enough voters from Biden, and switched strategy to suggesting there should be an alternative to Biden.
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Shitting the bed without a path forward isn’t clever. It’s just petty whining.
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Stewart offered what seemed to me a thoughtful path forward: Be the party of democracy and transparency, listen to voters, and run a convention to pick the candidate ...
... and, you know, maybe don't be strangely authoritarian about who gets to be the candidate while claiming you're also the only part that can "save democracy".
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Very authoritarian. Like how Dems are saying the press owes Karine Jean-Pierre an apology for "offending" her over asking about the Parkinson's specialist and not letting up on her non answers. WH Press Secretary is a paid propagandist position! You're paid to lie.
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Calling your own voters bed-shitters, bed-wetters, whiners, etc. isn't helping
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Neither is calling the president an ineloquent loser without having an alternative. So stop acting like complaining is the answer.
You want to replace Biden? Come up with a viable candidate that can beat Trump or realize that Biden is the best we’re gonna get before November and deal with it.
But enough with the bitching and moaning.
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The path forward Biden is offering:
Get a orange spray tan.
Start talking about how unfair the media is to him.
Attack members of his own party who dare to question him.
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Things that make you go hmm... 🤔
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In the George Stephanopoulos interview he looked pretty orange. And he's been talking a lot like trump lately.
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Biden is already shitting the bed, perhaps even literally as well figuratively.
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This is dumb as fuck . John is running his mouth half educated.
There was a primary. Biden won. Nobody was going to beat Biden, not even close.
But now, John wants to with 4 months to go, pull out the sitting president with a lack of confidence 4 months before an election.
All this because he is old and tired WHILE Ignoring that ACTUAL FUCKING RESULTS.
John and fuckers supporting this shit deserve Trump.
Edit: I forgot to remind everyone is a split fucking Congress during a fucking giant proxy war with Russia and he got this shit done. Probably the most effective president of the past 50 years.
WHAT BIDEN HAS DONE - YEAR FOUR
YEAR FOUR:
Growth shatters expectations: GDP expands 3.1% - a year beginning with heavy odds of a recession
Job creation 40 times rate of last 3 republican presidents - More than double Clinton and Obama
Black unemployment rate lower under Biden than any other administration (4.7%) - Compared to black unemployment under Trump was 2nd worst number in history, reaching over 16%
$1 Billion to replace the Blatnik Bridge connecting WI - MN
$600 million to replace the I-5 Bridge between Vancouver, Washington, and Portland, Oregon, with an earthquake-resistant, multimodal bridge.
$427 million to establish the first offshore wind terminal on the West Coast, off California.
$372 million to replace Cape Cod's nearly 90-year-old Sagamore Bridge.
$300 million for a new container terminal for the Port of New Orleans.
$95 million to widen a 10-mile section of I-10 through the Gila River in Arizona.
$142 million to fix the I-376 corridor in Pittsburgh, including an area infamously known as "the bathtub" due to its regular flooding.
$150 million to reconnect communities divided by the Cross Bronx Expressway in New York built in the mid-1900s.
Modernizes American port infrastructure
$3B investment for high speed internet for rural communities
$623 million to build EV charging network
Awards nearly $163 billion in federal contracts to small businesses
$426 million for Northern California offshore wind farm
Post-pandemics recovery is by far the most successful in the world
US oil production hits all-time high
Rescinds Trump-era "Denial of Care" rule that allowed health care workers to deny medical care to patients because of their personal religious or moral belief
Launches $11 billion on semiconductor-related research and development including $5 billion National Semiconductor Technology Center
US Trade Deficit With China Narrows to Lowest Since 2010
$250 million to modernize airports in 37 states
$4.4 million to upgrade Maine's power grid
Violent crime drop significantly since 2020
$5.8 billion to clean up nation’s drinking water and upgrade infrastructure
Round 15 of student loan forgiveness: $1.2 billion of federal student loans
Orders cybersecurity regulations for port operators similar to standardized safety regulations preventing injury and damage to people and infrastructure
$500 million to combat wildfire and improve resilience
$1 billion deal with Oregon, Washington, and 4 Columbia River tribes to revive Northwest salmon population
$1.7 billion package to fund initiatives aimed at ending hunger across the United States by 2030
$1 billion toward cleaning up 110 contaminated sites
$28 billion towards substance abuse treatment
$366 million to accelerate clean energy deployment in rural and remote areas
Implemented new rule that cuts credit card late fees $32 to $8
Allows student loan borrowers to repay based on income providing affordable payments and eventual student loan forgiveness
Directs DOJ to issue regulations giving clear protections of sensitive data from access by countries of concern
Bans asbestos
Funds program to fund coast-to-coast bicycle path without hitting a road
Commits $6B to cut emissions from high-carbon industries
Lends $1.5B to restart Michigan nuclear power plant
Allocates $750 million for hydrogen research and development
Restores threatened species protections dropped by Trump
Blocks mining on more than 221,000 acres of federal land in Colorado
First National standard ever for reducing harmful chemicals in drinking water
"Last resort" program keeps tens of thousands of American veterans who were in danger of losing their homes
America's economy growing at double the rate of all other G7 countries
Adds Title IX protections for LGBT students, forbidding discrimination based on sexual orientation or gender identity
Shields millions of acres of Alaskan wilderness from drilling and mining
$7 billion in federal grants for residential solar projects serving 900,000-plus households
Extends rule requiring overtime pay to workers making under $58,000 annually
Requires airlines to give cash refunds for canceled and significantly delayed flights
Establishes standards to eliminate emissions from new federal buildings by 2030
Lays out conditions for national goal to cut emissions from freight shipping down to zero
Bans most noncompete employment agreements preventing workers from joining competing businesses or launching ones of their own
Reinstates net neutrality
Prohibits federally funded health providers & insurers from discriminating on basis of sexual orientation and gender identity
Canadian Solar, one of the largest solar manufacturing companies in the world coming back to the US, thanks to the Inflation Reduction Act
Round 16 of student debt forgiveness: Clears $6 billion in debt for closed art school’s students
In 2021 only three states supplied 12 months of post partum care - Three years later 46 states now do
Online platforms and social media companies required to report child sex trafficking and online enticement to NCMEC’s tip line
Bans Russian uranium imports
$16 billion investments in Historically Black Colleges and Universities
Round 17 of student debt forgiveness: $7.7 billion for over 160,000 borrowers
Free online tax filing program piloted this year made permanent and scope will be expanded
Executive action ordering the closure of border cutting asylum claims in half (according to FOX News)
Prohibits medical debt from being reported on credit reports
Pardons US Service Members convicted because they were gay
Enacts plan to end Parkinson’s disease
Codifies same-sex and interracial marriage
Bolsters nation’s nuclear power by speeding timeline for licensing new nuclear reactors and cut fees that companies have to pay to do so
RESULTS:
COVID-19 vaccination program saved $732 billion, averting illness and related costs during the Delta and Omicron variant waves, with a return of nearly $90 for every dollar spent
Black unemployment at 4.7% - The lowest in US history
Stock market at record highs - Above 40,000 for the first time in history
13.2 million jobs added
Record number of states with unemployment rates at or below 3%
National unemployment rate below 4% for the longest stretch in more than 50 years
First Quarter Crime Statistics
Murder: Down 26.4%
Rape down: Down 25.7%
Robbery down: Down 17.8%
Aggravated Assault: Down 12.5%
Property Crime: Down 15.1%
Domestic manufacturing up 279% since Biden took office
Average hourly earnings up 22.28% since February 2020, surpassing the rate of inflation
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Stfu dude, we all know there wasnt a primary, you sound like an idiot. And why the irrelevant wall of text?
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Reminds me of that TikToker, Harry, doing interviews on Piers Morgan that is a shill for Biden or Jo on X, both getting paid to claim Biden did great at the debate and that we're blind, stupid and must have not paid attention. The say thing like "only Biden can beat Trump."
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Can’t have a beer with a wall of text. Checkmate Hexbear.
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And why the irrelevant wall of text?
Centrists love copypasta. They don't have to read or think.
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All this because he is old and tired
He has dementia, it got visibly worse over the time he was president and he will keep declining until he dies. Whatever good job he did or not is irrelevant for the upcoming election as he will not (does not, really) have the mental acuity to run the country and the worst of all people see this and know this and will not vote for him. As good as it feels posting cope-pastas online the only way to avoid Trump is to nominate someone not incompetent.
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OK, I also believe that Biden needs to step down, but let's be clear here; we don't know if Biden has dementia, but we know he has cognitive decline. I have two parents around Biden's age. One has full blown dementia, the other one has some cognitive decline. Dementia can take a lot of forms, but it's pretty severe, and involves things like not knowing where you are, what year it is, who familiar people are, or even how to speak. Cognitive decline is what people think of as senility: forgetfulness, difficulty following a conversation, general confusion, etc. Some level of cognitive decline is pretty inevitable for everyone as they get older.
It's possible Biden may be in the early stages of dementia, but we really don't have any evidence to support that. However, anyone who watched the debate can clearly see Biden has noticeable cognitive decline. Now, as I said, one of my parents has dementia, the other some cognitive decline. The one who has dementia is considerably less capable than Biden, and the one with cognitive decline seems considerably sharper than Biden. Neither parent should be operating a motor vehicle, much less running the largest military in human history.
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People always joked that they would vote for a potted plant over Trump. Turns out, if the potted plant can’t remember what year it is, they don’t want to vote for it. /s
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People who think Biden has dementia have clearly never seen actual dementia patients
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I guess you missed where he did all that last year and continues to do so. Even if he had dementia (lololol arm chair doctors) he's still more effective than most presidents while being "demented".
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That’s a great list of accomplishments. Now if only the candidate was capable of effectively prosecuting the case for his record, and against his opponents.
The problem ain’t the administration’s record and policies. It’s the candidate’s ability to sell the public on it.
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There was a primary. Biden won.
No there fucking wasn't. In some states only Biden was on the ballot despite there being other people in the race basically meaning he was given all delegates, the DNC calendar switched shit up so that south Carolina (which surprise surprise was one of the first states Biden actually did good in back in 2020) was first despite new Hampshire law stating it's supposed to be the first primary and fuckery ensued (the national DNC saying the NH primary wouldn't count, robocalls telling voters not to vote in the primary while pro-Biden Dems in the state telling voters to write his name in since NH removed him from the ballot for rightfully recognizing the shit they were pulling), the DNC made it well known they weren't going to have any primary debates, and 2 states flat out cancelled their primaries and awarded Biden all their delegates despite a single vote not being cast.. this wasn't a free and fair primary season by any stretch of the imagination.
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Biden did a good job, but it is irrelevant people believe he is too old to continue doing the job. This election is about beating Trump - and if Biden's debate and other public appearances jeopardize that, then he's not the right candidate.
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Even if the Lord Almighty comes down and tells Biden to drop out would Biden consider it. He may not even listen to God.
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^ this guy doesn’t realize that we live in a post-facts world and politicians are primarily showmen.
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Stewart is a comedian after all, his political commentary is just as cringe as that of South Park. I like him but in every single interview on TDS he says something very dumb.
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I'm disappointed in Stewart for this. I understand he's just a comedian, but he seemed to actually have some good takes and be getting more involved in serious politics over the past few years.
Changing the nominee at this stage would be effectively ceding the election. I'm convinced that most of this anti-Biden rhetoric is coming from right-wing astroturfers.
It's also bizarre seeing so many so-called progressives claiming that anyone could beat Trump... Did we learn nothing in 2016? Even the 2020 election was way too close for comfort. I wasn't a huge fan of Biden back then, but he has exceeded my expectations significantly. I'm disappointed that there aren't any viable younger candidates (that's still a problem that needs to be solved in the next primary), but that's certainly not going to stop me from voting for Biden again.
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Not changing the nominee at this stage would be effectively ceding the election
Fixed it for you.
I'm convinced that most of this anti-Biden rhetoric is coming from right-wing astroturfers.
Of course you are. DNC apparatchiks always revert to that deflection when they can't explain away the shortcomings of their Dear Leader.
In stead of emulating Dubya's "if you're not with us, you're against us" absolutism bullshit, maybe try to understand why your candidate is much more unpopular than any incumbent that's ever been reelected.
Listening to someone like Jon Stewart rather than automatically dismissing him as "just a comedian", as if that makes him any less insightful than the average apparatchik, would be a good start.
so-called progressives claiming that anyone could beat Trump
Again with the apparatchik fantasy, this time with an added strawman!
Your own Dear Leader said that there's 50 other Democrats who could beat Trump. Is he lying or are we right that he's in decline? Both?
Did we learn nothing in 2016?
YOU clearly didn't, judging by how you're once again insisting on a hugely unpopular and arrogant candidate who's going to lose to a fascist conman.
Even the 2020 election was way too close for comfort.
Because Biden was a bad candidate even then. Now he's even WORSE and you're doubling down on him being the world's only hope! 🤦
he has exceeded my expectations significantly.
Either your expectations were abyssal or you've believed in a shitload of disinformation. Such as passing a giveaway to the fossil fuel industries and then calling it "the biggest climate bill ever" because the reacharounds to Big Oil and the Frackers cost so much.
I'm disappointed that there aren't any viable younger candidates
He was an adult when color television was invented and is publicly falling apart. OF COURSE there are younger candidates that are more viable! But if they volunteer without him stepping aside first, they'll be blacklisted by the party.
Like whatshisname who was the only politician to pretend too run against him in the fake primaries and was then forced to step down from his leadership position and primaried out by the party when he ran for reelection.
that's still a problem that needs to be solved in the next primary
There won't be one unless you replace Biden with someone who'll beat Trump
that's certainly not going to stop me from voting for Biden again
Hopefully you'll be stopped from doing that by a better candidate taking his place.
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I'm convinced people that are saying the exact same things you just said actually are Trump supporters and want Trump to win.
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I feel like Stewart was directly voicing the concerns I’ve had over Biden for basically his entire term. He just doesn’t seem to get it that the fascists are playing for keeps.
I also like that he’s grounded in his suggestion of opening up the conversation, rather than immediately calling for Biden to step down. The DNC should’ve started poll testing alternates immediately after the debate. There needs to be an informed plan for an alternate. Calling for Biden to withdraw with a four month runway, without a more popular and independently funded candidate is reactionary and reckless.
They should've done that after he got elected! Ppl campaign for president 2 years before the actually election. How is everyone thinking 4 months is enough?!
To be fair, the fascists make it very hard to take them seriously. I can see why an elderly lifelong politician doesn't understand the threat. Most days I wake up and don't understand how it's come to this.