holy shit i switched over to .ml while the hexbear admins were off couping Bolivia and it was so fuckin bad

Everybody on .world thinks I'm a tankie. Everybody on hexbear thinks I'm a lib. I just want to be loved.

Everyone on hexbear thinks everyone else on hexbear is a lib, don't take it personally
- As the one true leftist on hexbear, I would agree
Well that's just cause lemmy.world is like straight up fash

It's ok though friend we still love you, read theory though
- "No, you don't understand, kicking out all of the Marxists and Anarchists definitely won't result in fascists feeling welcome this time, we are liberals, after all!"
Libs were the real authoritarian tankies all along. Ask any country the US has invaded since WW2.
Everybody on hexbear thinks I'm a lib

you'll fit right in with the rest of us, there are no leftists here
- You're right. We're all conservative here.
  
  Fuck the minorities.
  
  Noooo, not like that.
At this point I just have a .ml account for tech stuff and trying to lead uber-libs to theory, and a Hexbear account when I don't hate myself
Happy coik day...

Better ml than world. they'd might as well just rename to reddit.world at this point.

tbf most of the garbage was federated from .world
- Yes, that's an important thing to remember. Instances like .world and justshit are largely responsible for dragging down .ml and other (relatively speaking) decent instances. On hexbear, we're used mostly seeing ourselves (obviously), lemmygrad, .ml, a little bit of db0, and a smattering of other little instances. The second you go on .ml, you're inundated with loads of the same shit we all thought had been left concentrated on reddit. It's not that .ml is that terrible, it's that it's too small to push back against the hordes of .worlders. And so the culture of .ml and other smaller instances slowly but surely gets degraded. Defederating from hexbear and lemmygrad preemptively by .world wasn't done just because they wanted to be "safe" from having to see opinions and takes based in a reality they like to deny (it was that too), but also so they could hold sway and more easily influence and dominate the fediverse.
  
  For everyone on hexbear that was gung-ho about federation because it would mean actively dunking on libs, if you were one of the ones (like me) who liked the idea of arguing with liberals and putting them in their place for all the lurkers to see how inept their worldview is, I very much encourage you to make accounts on other instances and help push back against .world's insidious shit. If you're a hexbear that has had enough of that shit and just want to chill in a leftist space, I completely respect that and would suggest that you not make accounts on other instances.
  
  Hexbear has almost fallen back to a state of existence similar to how it was before federation happened, with the biggest difference being more cross pollination with lemmygrad. Which is good for those I just mentioned who like to not have to see liberal and chuddy garbage outside of the dunk tank. But it's not good for .ml that they get so swamped by .world. I've said it before but I really do encourage hexbears who like the posting trenches to make accounts on .ml and check the same threads you read as a hexbear and take note of how drastically different the experience is.

lemmy.ml used to explicitly label itself as a leftist instance. The removal of that one word from the site description has done irreparable damage.

Great Word Theory
i missed that drama, what word?
- .ml's description used to be "A community of leftist privacy and FOSS enthusiasts, run by Lemmy’s developers." They took "leftist" away around the time of the Reddit thing so they wouldn't scare people off, I guess.

If you need a pedophile defended to the death though there's no one I'd rather call than their admin team

Okay I just heard about this for the first time now, and it turns out it the mod in question was the same ml admin that hexbear banned months ago for sexism, they said something about all women being catty and men not being into drama. I remember reporting that comment from them.

I just wonder how the hell did they last so long as a mod?
- There were two of their admins involved actually
- That was the pedo mod, it was two other ml admins debatebroing hard in the dunk tank post that was disappointing.
  
  Dessalines brought the hammer down tho at least.
- lemmy.ml has open community creation ala reddit so mods there arent all selected by the admins. this user was given way too long of a leash tho, because he was a global south "comrade" (per the posted DMs of past infractions)
I can't even read the Dunk Tank anymore because of that thread. .ml blocked it. Let me in. :(
- Wow they really did block it. Guess I’m gonna have to look for a new instance.
- Sorry bub, too spicy in there for .ml users
  
  Your admins had to step in to protect y'all
I still don't see how Davel defended pedophilia. All of his comments were damning of that weird CSAM guy, he just cared very heavily about semantics. I don't get caring about that for someone else, but I get it when people start calling Davel a pedophile.

I've looked thru the modlog and his comments that are removed for "defending pedophilia" are all comments that point out what he's actually doing, and then asking how he is defending pedophilia.

I get not liking some guy who cares a lot about semantics, devatebroism is cringe, but I don't get why we need to make up something.
- It was the other admin that showed his ass the worst but
  
  Listen, you can say this isn't defending pedophilia if you want, but coming into that thread and dropping this turd is sure going to make people think that's what you're doing. Don't act like there's no basis in fact and don't accuse me of lying
- Exactly what PMYF said. Its not lying or misleading, he straight up says "I didn't see him defending pedophilia" when that is literally the topic of the discussion, joker was and was banned for it.
  
  Also, hes been fine with transphobes and misogynists in the mod team before this whole incident. I think he should be perma banned simply for that, let alone this issue.

I like it. Arguing with .world liberals reminds me of when cth was on Reddit, and Redditors couldn't decide whether they hated chapo or the_donald the most. I even had a guy name check me in a debate with somebody else in an unrelated conversation, biggest endorsement I could hope for.

I used to like it more, now I am trying to unlearn my debatebro nature and just become a chill dude.

Who knew that an entire instance of smug dumbasses who think they’re smart because they were in their high school’s Model UN would suck

To be fair, being in my Highschool's Model UN made me very stupid.

I was once in a historical simulation about Revolutionary China, and I slipped into a resolution a provision about killing all landlords via hammer and sickle lobotomy
Our high school had a model UN but also a total lack of interest in it beyond like 5 nerds, so there was basically model UN conscription, I don't think I represented Chilean interests well on the national stage.
- they should conscript people to be world leaders in real life.