Harvard board bars 13 pro-Palestine student protesters from graduating, overruling faculty
Harvard board bars 13 pro-Palestine student protesters from graduating, overruling faculty
This is what happens at Harvard when you try to do good. Look at their alumni. Filled with IRL super villains.
I will reluctantly admit that there are good activists who come from Harvard. I work with some and know of many more. But the vast majority is just like you describe
Tom Morello graduated from Harvard
Fucking pathetic
Look, the most important voices are the non-scholastic billionaire donors. Why would you care about the opinions of those engaged in pedagogy? This is a business, not a school!
Vile. I hope those students sue those bigoted, genocidal pigs into the dirt.
Ah, technically no grounds for lawsuit. Protesting on the institution's private property was against their code of conduct. Hopefully people start withdrawing support for Harvard, leading to declining business.
If a dropout from Harvard starts a company doing literally anything then I would like to invest, please.
Outrageous.
I can just see an alumni from another institution waiving their fees just to go after Harvard for this "decision".
My read on the article was that this was the corporation tipping their hand on how that process was going to play out, but I could certainly be wrong. read to me like the faculty voted for them to graduate, but this was the board vetoing that and affirming that they were still to be dealt with, and that the consequences were going to be grim. Hopefully that’s not the case.
That is Islamaphobic.
I don't even think you have to go that far. You paid money, you earned grades, you graduate. It's almost like a contract?
Islamophobic discrimination, breach of contract and just generally being a bunch of reactionary Zionists who learned the wrong lessons from dystopian sci-fi are far from mutually exclusive, you know..
High time people use this word
I remember that word
Inhumane.
So they aren't being given their first amendment rights... Oh boy I can't wait to see how this plays out at other companies.
Harvard isn't a government funded organization, so the first amendment doesn't apply. Hopefully the students find a way to sue based on the college's own rules though.
Well, technically, they do receive some government funding but the terms of the funds being allotted don't include adherence to the first amendment. It's not an entity controlled by state or federal government directly.
I should like to think the law sees this a violation of the right the students have. Because to me if a private organization that has the power to give you a degree as you've paid for it's services and proven yourself as competent and that degree is recognized by employers, the government etc. Then it should have no right to impose it's values on people while withholding the end product of their use of services provided in the first place.
Anything otherwise would imply the organization can supercede the government. That would mean cases like this could come from other organizations that prop up would-be government functions and cause a ton of chaos.
I would understand if the protest was a major violation of the rules or it was intended to be a riot or some such other violent event but if my source for what happened is correct then that's not the case and this whole thing is a petty squabble coming directly from the board of Harvard.
Good ol' United States of Israel. Once the Global South becomes the new world order, the global power, chit is gon' get really real.
I wonder when Americans, or better yet, the citizens of the world will ever realize that.. the only form of protest that works is BDS.
Money is their god. Disrupt their money and they will listen.
What do you think they were protesting for? Divestment from Israel. Student activist groups have been successful in getting universities to divest, other activists are pressuring their local governments to divest. I agree with the thrust of what you're saying, although "United States of Israel" is exactly backwards. But I think you lost the thread at some point
Think about it. The chomos in the U.S. Government are protecting Israel and Zionism by trying to push anti-free speech laws against its own citizens. The U.S. Government is directly threatening the ICJ/ICC with sanctions for warrants against Netanyahu and other top officials.
Look up BDS laws in the U.S., states like Florida make it illegal to promote/support BDS.
In May 2023, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis signed legislation that prohibits businesses from supporting BDS policies against Israel to do business with the state. The legislation also requires businesses to divest their holdings in companies that boycott Israel.
I feel it.. our politicians have blackmail material against them by the Mossad/Israel by actors like Jeffrey Epstein. Israel operates fully by deception. It is in their nature to.
Harvard must not be what it used to be, a little strategy would have told them to keep up their efforts but lay low until they get the degree. Don't worry, this conflict will be around long enough for your kids to act like maniacs with you. Sticks and stones may break my bones but idgaf about your down votes!
Sticks and stones may break my bones but idgaf about your down votes!
People who don't care about downvotes don't announce how much they don't care. You're like the people who are very insistent on how straight they are: we all know it's a BS cover.
Ok
Once they get the degree:
a little strategy would have told them to keep up their efforts but lay low until they're financially independent.
Over and over until
a little strategy would have told them to keep up their efforts but lay low until their kids get their degree.
Your comment history is cancer. Easiest block ever.
Run and hide baby
Congratulations on knowing civil law, fuck you for not having basic human decency though.
Thanks for the 4 years tuition though!
I could see them barring them from walking for their degree, but to hold it completely is messed up. Bullshit that ‘the corporation’ overruled the faculty vote.
And that's why nobody should ever go to a fot-profit school.
The fun thing is that people say "I graduated" or "I'm graduating" but it's technically more correct to say "I am being graduated (by the university)." I might be mixing it up a bit, but the idea is that the university always has the final say over whether or not you get that important piece of paper at the end.
One of my teachers in high school taught us this, but I never actually thought I'd see it in action. It's cruel.
Which is bullshit. If you got the grades and paid your tuition, a university should not be able to withhold your degree. They can ban you from the graduation ceremony, but that's it.
It is crazy that a university hold such power over someone.
Headline is misleading. The article notes that they arent necessarily withholding them permanently, but because they are going through the disciplinary process, and so currently not in good standing, they can't get them at graduation.
Similar to Israel telling Palestinians that they can't have a state "right now" and have to come to "agreeable" terms first.
If there is no term given it means permanently.