The retro Nokia phone everyone owned 25 years ago will get a reboot soon

Another reboot?

That's what I thought. They have already relaunched 3310 few years back.
- The problem is the previous one only has 2G, and the 2G networks will soon be shut down, hence why they're making a 4G version.
- An easy cashgrab, perhaps?

And I will bet money that the reboot is going to a cheaper shitier version of the original.

Running buggy laggy unsupported KaiOS at that.

Imagine if Nokia had risen from the dead and continued the N900 line.

How cool a Maemo PDA would be now with all the spying sloppily made crap around.

I hate how Microsoft sent a new CEO to Nokia, who then tanked the company, got them bought by Microsoft, and then was rehired in another role by Microsoft.

What makes it even worse is that they couldn't even keep Nokia going once they did their takeover.

I'm still furious about the whole thing. It's insane they got away with such blatant market manipulation. Microsoft is untouchable.

Me too. I always thought of Nokia as genuine innovator's delivery good products. Not fantastic products. But good products with CONSUMERS in mind and their usage habits, rather than designing phones around optimizing selling us things.

Wasn't it already rebooted not so long ago?

Sure was. Seems all Nokia can do now is make middling Android phones or try to cash in on nostalgia.
- This isn’t Nokia. It’s HMD. They just paid to be allowed to slap the “Nokia” label on their devices and shape them like those old Nokia phones.
- It's not just nostalgia. I absolutely want a phone I can throw at a wall and put back together without it costing me money.
- The actual Nokia hasn't been in the mobile phone business for a decade. They sold it all to Microsoft in 2014 with a licence deal for using the Nokia name, and they then sold it to HMD Mobile in 2016. That name deal should expire this year, but they might renew it.
Yeah, but the 3G networks are pretty much all gone, and iirc even the 4G reboots didn't support a ton of LTE bands.
Different model.

I miss the designs. Nokia, sony, Motorola…. All trying stuff.

We gave up a lot to carry these black mirrors around.

Are you sure you don't just want another camera stuck to the back? Maybe you have one too many external ports?
And as a bonus, they (at least the Nokias and Ericssons) could be used as weapons.
The battery is kind of important so any place that could be used for a gimmick is better used for a bigger battery. Back then I don't think anyone cared about battery size. I just charged my phone when it ran out.
- Cos batteries lasted about a week before they had to power 5” super bright LCDs

Does it have a replaceable battery and can I still use it as a murder weapon and place a call afterwards? Asking for a friend

I couldn't find details on this particular model, but all Nokia dumbphones released so far have easily removeable batteries and can be used as a murder weapon in a pinch.

Dunno, the HMD's reboots aren't good.
From a hardware point of view, they feel good,
but the software sucks.

The S30 OS, before Nokia collapses, was much better.

The S30 OS, before Nokia collapses, was much better.

Yeah no - you're miss-remembering it. For example you had to delete SMS messages otherwise your mailbox would fill up.

It could only fit 10 messages before it'd run out of space, and once full no messages would be received at all.

Also, the battery life was ten days in standby if you didn't use the phone which was nice but as soon as you started using it... then it only lasted 3 hours. I used to carry two spare batteries in my bag... don't miss those days at all.
- Yeah, this would be a novelty and it was SOLID for it's time. But we have come a long way, pretty sure my light switches have more processing power than these phones did. This isn't like your favorite band rebooting, it is a peice of technology that is no longer relevant or even capable of operating on modern networks. The entire hardware will be completely different or it will be a paperweight immediately.
- That's not a software issue. That's all hardware limitations.
- It could only fit 10 messages before it’d run out of space, and once full no messages would be received at all.
  
  You often hear programmers cite zero, one, infinity but fact of the matter is... while most if not all of your code should be capable of that, be blissfully ignorant about any imposed limit because it's going to work whatever you set it to, the application often still should have a limit:
  
  Even if you're not as ludicrously storage-constrained as those old Nokia bricks the data structure you're storing it in is going to have some kind of assumptions about up to what number of elements it's going to be efficient, so in e.g. game programming you write your code, document your assumption in the form of an error or warning thrown if that limit is exceeded, and when the level designers break it you have a look together at the thing and decide whether the limit needs increasing, or the level designers should reign in their use of whatever thingummy is breaking the limit.
  
  Not to mention that just storing an index for an arbitrarily large data structure can take up arbitrary amounts of RAM. Do you really expect me to use variable-sized numbers just so that you can have more than 2⁶⁴ (~1.84×10¹⁹) messages. Or columns in your spreadsheet, or whatnot.

I don't think it will sell much.

Eeh, they already did it with nokia 3310 and 8110 in 2018.
So I guess it still seems worth it.

As a sidenote, what the fuck, that was 6 years ago?
I'll get one for sure. Always handy to have a long battery lasting cheap phone for on festivals, so I don't have to carry my 1000 euro smartphone which probably won't survive. I'm always super careful with my stuff, never break my screen or lose my phone. Except when I'm on festivals. All I need is WhatsApp so I can find my friends anyeay. This becomes an issue after day 2, so I need to carry battery packs or be offline. And battery packs for 7 days festival is heavy and annoying.
- It will be good when we don't have access to powerpoint. WhatsApp is a must and wondering if it can support the small screen.
Right? I still have my brick and it still works fine... even after seeing how high I could throw it.

I still have my 3310, but lost the charger. So I don't know if it is still working.

My children now use what is basically a cheap 3310 copy (also from Nokia, no internet).

but lost the charger - Hey, I'm in the UK but I have a drawer full of Nokia chargers if you need one! ( I keep them to impress the ladies, along with my collection of IKEA Allen keys...)
- Lol thanks. But I am in Germany. :)
It could always be used to level a foundation.

Hopefully with hackable firmware!

Very exciting to see, I've been thinking of getting a daily driver dumb phone for a while now. Any news on US support?

Also interested in a daily dumb phone. Smartphones are... fine... but dumb phones are where it's at. I had to stop using my BlackBerry Torch last year and I literally cried.
- I'd rather like smartphone in a different package.
  Like so:
  
  I don't think they still make such phones though.

Just get an old one, they still work lol

(note: they might not work for making calls I dunno)

If you're in a country where GSM is native it's quite likely that 2G is still available. 3G probably got shut down in the meantime but 2G doesn't need much spectrum and is kept as a baseline compatibility protocol, possibly even mandated by law (because emergency services). It's also perfectly sufficient for voice calls. Internet is... tolerable if all you're doing is browsing wikipedia and doing email. It's easily twice as fast as a 56k modem what are you complaining about.
- If possible, bookmark http://68k.news/ and http://frogfind.com/ on those phones.
- Ah my us robotics 28k modem... it sang a sweet song to prepare me for the bloodshed of TF and Painkeep.
To call someone you need to have friends. Who needs friends when you have snake?
I’ve still got a 3310 in a drawer, it still turns on, and if I had a SIM card for it would be fully working as the UK still operates a 2G network (for now at least).

There’s even removable fascia plates still for sale on eBay.
But do you have a fitting charger?
- Hundreds in a box somewhere
- What do you need a charger for? We'll all be dead long before the battery is done /j

I just want my side sliding keyboard...

I love my Nokia dumbphone. Great for when I wanna leave my iPhone behind.

All I need are Signal, maps, Plex, and the ability to Dev on the device 🙏

Maps, lol!

Close, I had an 8210, my very first cell phone. Loved that little guy.

8210, the smallest andnd not as robust as the 33.

I had a 6310, supposed business phone, which was a great all-rounder. Only downside was it had the outline of a dick.

I'm more of a Space Impact guy

Cheap shitty knockoff reboots of a product are not newsworthy or even post worthy.

Is my opinion unpopular?

Please make a new 8910

If the SIM standard didn't change every few years, presumably for the same reason CPU pin-count changes ($$$), this might be a great phone for international travel, protests/marches and such.

As for Snake: meh, it's fun, but it's easy enough to code for yourself... Angela Yu's "100 Days of Code" taught me that. ;)

The retro Nokia phone everyone owned 25 years ago will get a reboot soon – and yes, it has Snake