Eeeeeh, mixing a lot of apples and oranges on that one. At least in a few of those they have problems way beyond US intervention. Others don't get accused of being wrecked by socialism because that "US backed coup" ended up setting up a fascist government for ages instead, so that kinda muddles the meme as well.
Along with mixing up socialism and socialdemocracy I find sometimes online leftists tend to get overprotective of nominally socialist regimes regardless of what obvious issues they have for unrelated reasons. That seems self-defeating to me, it gives reactionaries fodder to lump all left of centre or progressive governments and only target the worst of them for a cheap rhetorical win.
Direct US intervention is only part of the puzzle. The constant extraction of resources and funding of the people who keep the populace down through less obvious means is the main thing putting down a lot of the nations who are not US and EU, particularly in the global south.
I don't think it's unrelated at all to point out that it just so happens that (most of) the rich nations have or had a colonial history, and the poor ones were colonized.
Finally, this is a meme, you're looking for too much nuance.
Unfortunately for you, we're not here for memes but pointless internet arguments.
PS i am less mad than you
Lololol you use a meme as propaganda and then follow up with it's just a joke bruh.
Trump 101.
Apples are a fruit with thin edible skin and firm white flesh. Oranges are a fruit with a thick inedible skin and soft pulpy flesh.
Apples can be compared to oranges.
The apples and oranges is more about someone going and eating an orange and then complaining it doesn't taste like an apple.
Like yeah it fucking doesn't it's a completely different thing.
In the modern day, it’s usually not that we’re just mad at them for being socialist; the days of pointless bloodshed like Vietnam and Cuba belong to a time several generations ago. Ever since the 1980s, it’s usually been just that they have something we want, and socialism doesn’t enter into that equation as much. We’re just as comfortable coup-ing Honduras as we are invading Afghanistan, but not for reasons of ideology. We just want their stuff.
Check out “Confessions of an Economic Hit Man” for an in depth look at exactly how fucked and criminal the entire system is.
Along with mixing up socialism and socialdemocracy
I think it's you who has things "mixed up"
Social democracy is a political, social, and economic philosophy within socialism
within socialism
#"within socialism"
I bet you're real fun at parties
Nah, Venezuela was already fucked up when the coup and sanctions arrived. Also never has been true socialist just in word for elections while the leadership have properties and huge fortunes of drugs, and using the oil state enterprise to launder that money. Source: Venezuelan national.
Did you have to flee when the big, bad socialists took over?
The coup itself was not novel, of course, but it was the first Latin American coup in the twenty-first century, and showed that the US government would continue to prioritize its perceived geopolitical interests — and those of multinational corporations — in the region over democracy. The US would go on to support coups, and other sorts of undemocratic political transitions, in Haiti (2004), Honduras (2009), Paraguay (2012), Brazil (2016), and Bolivia (2019) — and would show support for attempted coups in Bolivia (2008), Ecuador (2010), and Venezuela (2019). Elements of the 2002 Venezuela coup playbook would also be repeated in many cases. Source
Nah I left when crime escalated to the point where it was a common occurance to get kidnapped and get a ride to multiple ATMs to get your wages directly stolen without recourse. Instead of increase the rule of law the country descended into anarchy and fear as a state sponsored policy.
Is sad to see the opportunity lost when people in public positions were rich overnight while we, the regular people lost our wages to the highest inflation in the world and violent crime.
I want to say yes F the exterior policies of the US meddling with all economic interests in the world, but don't lose focus because of this of the damaged Chavez and Maduro put on Venezuelans clinging to power.
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Uhhhhmmmmm technically Vietnam wasn't an invasion, America was invited by the French imperialists and local fascists.
America illegally invaded and bombed Cambodia and Laos.
Seem to be mixing communism and socialism interchangeably?
The American way.
socialism is literally the primary stage of communism
Take it up to the beardy guy who came up with those words and used them interchangeably
