1y ago

President Biden is now posting into the fediverse

www.theverge.com

Fediverse @kbin.social

btaf45 @kbin.social

1y ago

President Biden is now posting into the fediverse

www.theverge.com /2024/4/2/24119353/joe-biden-threads-mastodon-activitypub-fediverse

Technology @lemmy.world

misk @sopuli.xyz

1y ago

President Biden is now posting into the fediverse

www.theverge.com /2024/4/2/24119353/joe-biden-threads-mastodon-activitypub-fediverse

95 comments

false alarm it's only threads
Threads
No he isn't.
- I was excited for nothing...
  
  Even if he was, why would this excite you? Whenever something goes mainstream, enshitification begins.
Nah. It’s threads. I’m pretty sure most fediverse instances blocked threads.net before they even tried to federate. I know mine did.
- a lot of Lemmy did the rest of fediverse less so
  
  Oh, I’m referring to my mastodon instance.
- Neither did Mastodon.social or Mastodon.online, though honestly I'd recommend people steer clear of those instances when signing up for a different reason, they're also very widely blocked or limited by a lot of servers due to issues with spam and moderation. Ironic that these instances are already too big to effectively moderate, yet threads is bigger and also way worse (see link in other comment about their moderation issues) and yet people still want to federate with them.
Mastodon instances need to defederate.
If you want to comment on any POTUS posts with the broader user base, you have to download Threads. Fuck that noise.
- Don't you love how the government is supporting private for-profit businesses? I received an amber alert 2 days ago and when I clicked the link it took me to Twitter. I don't have a Twitter account and the page wouldn't load. What in the actual fuck? Our government is using a website run by an insane man-child for critical infrastructure.
  
  That’s just the link the local cops pasted into the alert form. They can put in a link to hampsterdance.com if they wanted to.
  
  The sooner they use the fediverse the better
- Dethreaderate
- There's also a limited federation mode that server admins can use. Users and posts are still searchable, but they do not show on the public federated feed.
  Useful for this exact case where a server may have beneficial accounts, but the rest should be hidden for moderation reasons.
  Still would prefer it being on a proper mastodon server, but I can live with this. Whatever server ends up hosting a President's account now has to deal with record preservation laws for their posts. Let's leave that bureaucratic stuff to threads.
  
  how about having the American government just host their own fediverse servers? it's not like they don't have the money to do so
- That would be like Gmail blocking Yahoo, it defeats the purpose of a Fediverse especially when users can already block content from domains they dislike.
  
  No, big corp with millions of users they cannot moderate defeats the purpose of a fediverse.
  
  First of all, no it doesn't. The fediverse is about servers communicating with each other, that doesn't mean all servers, it just means that multiple servers communicate, and if a server is being problematic it will be blocked or limited, as another example a good amount of servers limit or block Mastodon.social and due to spam issues. Threads in this regard is no different, it just so happens to be a much bigger problem than Mastodon.social hence why there is much stronger efforts to defederate it.
  
  especially when users can already block content from domains they dislike.
  No, you are deliberately or unintentionally misrepresenting how domain blocks and indeed blocking in general works in Lemmy (Domain blocks target communities and do not hide users or their content), and even with Mastodon this doesn't solve the biggest problems with threads, that being the extremely poor moderation and the EEE threat which are server wide problems and not user preference issues.
- I mean, it's not like he's reading the Threads users' comments either.
Dark Brandon would host his own instance, and make it all about chocolate ice cream.
- Just a totally straight blog about ice cream and cool cars, with no mention of politics.
On behalf of the dozens of us here…. Welcome Joe!
- Ah it's Threads...
  Good that it's fedi, bad that it's threads. They definitely have the resources to run a government Mastodon instance, but no let's stay beholden to the tech companies 😑
  And none of them appear to have joined Bluesky yet, a competing decentralized social network running on its own AT protocol that recently opened general signups.
  good.
  
  I’d rather have them on Bluesky/AT than Threads, to be perfectly honest…
  
  Whats wrong with bluesky? I hear this general sentiment about it but have never even looked at it.
- Joe can’t see your welcome message. Threads can’t see content posted outside of Threads. It can only spam masto Instances, and if you want to comment, you need to download Threads.
  
  sigh So Threads can throw their posts out into the fediverse, but no one from fediverse is allowed to post comments back? Why am I not surprised? 🙄
  
  For an account like this, who cares? It’s a one way flow of PSA type announcements anyway, not like Biden or his team would engage.
  If I want to start a discussion about one of those posts, I’d do it on lemmy somewhere I suppose.
  
  You can comment just fine. Threads users just can't see it yet.
- If you think that he personally goes anywhere near this I got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell ya...
  All of his social media accounts are handled by his PR team. He probably doesn't even know what's on them.
- Whoops looks like you've crawled out of your hole, here let me just pop you back in there :)
@potus@threads.net
Feels a bit weird pinging the president in Lemmy comments, but come at me, Secret Service.
- threads doesn't accept federated posts, it only pushes them.
  
  Fuck that noise. What on earth were we expecting from an advertising agency?
- @POTUS@femboy.breeding.college is his real handle
Oh shit, now the feds watchin 👀
- Implies that they weren't watching before this.
- This account is now under the control of the Federal Cyber Crime Unit (FCCU) in accordance with a seizure warrant obtained by the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of California issued pursuant to 18 U.S.C. §§ 981 and 982.. Every user in this DM has been formally logged and will receive personal notice(s) in their mailbox. You are all to be investigated and it is of no use to block the receptian/contact. Please have patience as we will inform you of any further actions along with your case number. You are not to release this information online or further measures will be taken with harsher consequences.
  
  we're doomed
- What did you expect of a FEDiverse
  
  Secret User-Agents
That's @potus, for those on platforms that can view microblogs and that are not defederated from Threads.
Remember that comments are not federated to/from threads yet. If I understood correctly, likes are federated.
- That’s correct
This is the best summary I could come up with:
The official US president Threads account, currently helmed by President Joe Biden, has begun using Meta’s ActivityPub integration, making Biden the first sitting US president to post on the decentralized networking protocol.
The account turning on fediverse posting comes only a couple of weeks after Threads rolled out its beta ActivityPub integration for users in the US, Canada, and Japan.
Biden may not be able to see replies and follows as they pour in from the fediverse — and with some servers blocking connections to Meta, not everyone there will be able to see his posts — as those features weren’t part of Threads’ integration when it opened up beta testing last month.
So far, only Biden’s official POTUS account appears to have toggled Threads’ fediverse integration on.
Neither Dr. Jill Biden’s nor Vice President Kamala Harris’ accounts showed up in a search.
And none of them appear to have joined Bluesky yet, a competing decentralized social network running on its own AT protocol that recently opened general signups.
The original article contains 220 words, the summary contains 169 words. Saved 23%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!
Can I follow him from L.W?
- Lemmy doesn't have a feature to follow users, last I checked.
- You can follow him from kbin.social
  
  Do you know how to do this?
I'm just waiting for the president of my country to start federating, then I can follow him from Mastodon and delete my Threads account.
I see it as a positive thing
Seeing what hits top from politics@lemmy.world lately, I believe it.
@fediversereport Awesome! looking forward for the completed implementation.
POTUS puts the ‘fed’ in ‘fediverse.’
Thanks I hate it.
Also too bad that the White House has joined Meta, specifically, rather than the decentralized Fediverse, but libs gonna lib.
- Would have been cool for them to host their own instance with just the one account
  
  But open source software is communism! Much more on brand for the White House to go with Meta
  
  Would make sense too, they don't use default Gmail either. Some other governments have Mastodon instances
  
  Nah, give those National Parks posters a Mastodon account. Way more desirable than POTUS. Also put all those other random gov Twitter accounts on it so they can link somewhere that anyone can read.
- Its a vague undulation in a direction I think most folks here would probably prefer?
  That's kinda all you can realistically hope for a lot of the time
  
  Realistically? The EU set up their own Mastodon server two years ago. Of course it's realistic for the White House to do the same.
  https://www.pcmag.com/news/eu-joins-mastodon-social-network-sets-up-its-own-server
- Funnily enough the instance my masto is on also uses that motto, tho for an entirely different reason
Corporate shill, reaffirmed.
As if he knows how to operate a smartphone.
- At least go with Geoncider in Chief or something. It may not be a word, but it still feels grammatically correct.
- Isn't it way past bedtime for you two in St. Petersburg?

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