1y ago

There is some Tesla brigade working hard to remove everything from the internet that makes them look bad.

The last couple days I've noticed every post that shows Tesla not looking good, has been removed from some higher directive. Not deleted by OP.

and yesterday an OP tried at least twice to post an article about Tesla factory ordering $16,000 worth of pies from a small independently-owned Silicon Valley bakery, owned by a sweet hard-working lady who worked overtime all night and had to go out and buy more ingredients to get the order finished in time, only for Tesla to call up the next morning and cancel the order just as the pies were about to be delivered to Tesla. As of press time, that lady lost $16,000 on that order but hopefully Tesla came back and made up for it.

The OP posted that article twice because the first one had been removed, then I tried to comment on the second one and it had been removed also.

There seems to be some Tesla brigade working hard to remove everything from the internet that makes them look bad.

Edit: Update:

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How does cancelling a pie order at delivery mean that you don’t pay? You try to cancel a dental appointment in less than 48hrs and you still get charged for that appointment
- Good luck sending Elon the bill when you can barely get the richest man on Earth to pay rent for Twitter's headquarters.
  
  Real estate is one thing, but small claims court over unpaid goods and services provided is another.
- Depends on the terms of the contract...
  
  Yeah, apparently, because it was some small business owner, she only invoiced the order, and didn’t have some elaborate no cancellation policy in a contract for an order that size. It’s terribly unfortunate, but she probably should’ve known better (as a freelancer, myself, I once had to learn this very lesson the hard way, although it did not cost me nearly so much). I guarantee she’ll never ever make that mistake again, but, sadly, it may be because she is now going out of business.Tesla are such shit for doing this to her, and the very least they could do is pay for their order.
  
  Depends on the location, some places would have considered the purchase a contract of itself.
- I mean how does Twitter not pay rent?
  
  Cancel the standing order, put the wrong figure on a cheque
- My guess is someone very wealthy and/or used to doing large scale business just didn’t realize what a big number that is to normal people.
  Or has never prepared food in their life.
  Or they’re used to ordering like pallets of mountain dew or whatever and decided to go with fresh food instead.
  I don’t know. I feel like this falls under “moral incompetence” or something. I doubt it’s a deliberate attempt to screw her over, but it’s also not really acceptable. They should be ashamed.
  I really hope whoever made this fuckup is questioning how out of touch they’ve become.
  
  Or the vendor didn’t insist on an initial payment or cancellation fee. I don’t know how this is a Tesla thing - some admin put in an order for some sort of meeting or event and they changed the schedule so she canceled. It happens all the time. This is not Tesla-specific
The story posted twice and removed by mods, were because he broke the rules. First he posted on c/technology when it has nothing to do with tech. Then he posted on c/news with a headline complaining that it was removed, where it's against the rules to change the headline. So this has nothing to do with being silenced, but everything to do with not respecting the subs he posted to.
The exact same article was posted again, but with correct headline, and has not been taken down.
- Aye, Thank you for noticing the issue and explaining. I keep wondering why my post keeps getting up votes. I was in some sort of conspiracy theory mindset when I wrote it 🤷🏻‍♀️
  
  You should edit your OP to update it with this information.
  
  This explanation is grounded but I just want to point out that over the last 4 months I have blocked several Musk subs and a couple of Tesla subs. All of which were pumping out their respective subjects as spam everyday...
Reason the thread complaining about the pie post being taken down was removed from this c:
reason: Using this instant as a platform for complaints against the actions of other mods
The top comment in that thread describes the reason it was removed originally.
A constant stream of meta whining sucks. Doesn't need to be some pro-Tesla conspiracy to dislike that.
- Exactly. And this is Lemmy, the modlogs are public. People always want to believe things are a conspiracy instead of logically considering more plausible reasons.
  
  You sure try modlogs are public? Some already use the name “mod” to hide their own mod profiles when doing actions and it’s trivial to setup admin actions to remove posts / comments without listing them in the modlog, while I agree it’s better than nothing it’s still up to each individual instance to decide what they give price of their admin / mod actions.
The pie story kept getting removed because OP was posting it to irrelevant communities.
- Why is this not relevant to technology when it was perpetrated by a tech company? Was it the way they worded the post, perhaps?
  
  Just because Tesla did it doesn't make it a tech story. Business? Sure, absolutely. They stiffed a bakery on a bill.
  News? Maybe? Arguably? More of a local news story than anything else.
  But it has nothing, absolutely nothing, to do with technology.
- If communities start to fill up with irrelevant stuff then it makes sense to start moderating it, but in all other cases I think the users should decide what is and is not appropriate for the sub. Post frequency isn't nearly high enough on lemmy that allowing votes to sort things wouldn't be sufficient.
  
  You would be surprised, I have to remove US Centric stories from World News a lot.
Hear me out. Perhaps it's a heavy handed mod or the community who is tired of Tesla posts full stop. Or Elon Musk posts, which tbh is kind of fair especially on places like the tech community. Musk does a lot of things to stay in the news cycle to stay relevant and a lot of people are fatigued about it.
- I think that sort of thing should be decided by the community with the up/down vote buttons.
  Or if the Mods wants to implement a policy to ban certain content then that could be added to the Rules for posting. That would be fine as people that want that kind of content can create their own community for it.
  Moderation policies should be transparent and not used to veto anything that displeases a mod.
  
  Lots of people in the community have complained. An even asked for a temp ban on posts about him (just him, not even his companies or their products). Moderation policies are transparent here. You can check mod logs. There are several comments on this post to that effect. Op threw out a lot of accusations.
  https://lemmy.world/comment/7882218
That pie post is one post up from this one, on my feed......
- Oh that's good news, it finally made it through without being removed.
  
  Posted here two days ago: https://lemmy.world/post/12307783
Which instance are we talking about. Was this all on lenmyworld or elsewhere? Was it all in one community? Did it happen here?
I can't remember the last time I read a positive news story about Tesla. Maybe the mods simply just are tired of the contant spam about Elon's every single action.
This is entirely subjective - I haven’t gone around counting things up - but I’ve noticed both more pro-Tesla and pro-SpaceX posts and increased arguments on the anti-Musk posts. It seemed (on lemmy) to be coming from the same small number of accounts, so it could just be an enthusiastic handful of fanboys.
If one of them became a mod, that might explain it. They were very active in the Tesla and SpaceX subs with multiple articles posted within minutes of each other within the past couple of days.
- Probably just fanboys. I hate playing the shill but have certainly responded to unreasonable hatred and wrong criticism. There’s plenty of criticism to go around, even if you stick to valid stuff.
  
  The same thing was quite widespread with Trump aswell. Each day the guy gives new valid reasons to critizise him for but people still feel the need to come up with lies about them or what's probably even more common; jump to conclusions the very first moment a new story is breaking and then just run with it even if it's later proven to be false. Like the story about Elon turning off Starlink to stop Ukrainian attack on Crimea. Or when people's twitter profiles get suspended only to then be restored few hours later.
  Being part of a hate-cult is hardly any better from being a fanboy.
That may be true but I'm in the market for a car right now and one thing Tesla cannot hide is how many used ones are for sale and how cheap they are compared to sticker price after a year or two.
- Wonder why though? Shitty build quality?
  
  There's probably a range of factors.
  My own feelings are not indicative of market trends (because I'm a bit weird about things) but a few years ago teslas had some kind of appeal.
  I guess I just hadn't realised how much of an ass musk is.
  That situation has changed though. I would be legit embarrassed to drive one.
  
  Some people are not a fan of the internal cameras recording you at all times that send footage back to Tesla.
  https://insideevs.com/news/496449/tesla-in-car-camera-privacy/
he isn't just the biggest troll in history, he is also the idol of all other trolls
- I'm starting to wonder if the trolls are actually trolls that through selective breeding started to look more human like over time
Tesla is a massive stock pumping Ponzi scheme that just happens to have a poorly ran car company attached to it. People need to realize what the goal of Tesla marketing is really about. It will be remembered as one of the great investment scams of our time.
- Your user name surprised me!
I was driving around doing errands and passed by that pie place. I was all "Hey! Is that the famous pie place now?" Yup, sure enough. The shop was closer then I thought. Best of luck to them!
I remember modest coffee had something like that happen and bought a box of beans to help them out.
Dude it’s been going on for 10 years.
So normal internet marketing machine is working as planned?
Makes you wonder about times you have looked at reddit for a review of an item and haven't seen negative comments.
- At this point we are in the situation where PR companies that are pro and against Musk are fighting eachother in public spaces in the hopes that both brainwash as many people as possible, into their narrative. Nobody can tell the truth anymore, we're in that period now.
How’s that “fULL sELf dRiviNg” coming along that their valuation was supposedly based on?
- That’s exactly the type of thing the stock market is usually good at punishing. However maybe there’s more to the stock than full self-driving, or maybe some people still hope it’s coming and yet other find the existing functionality useful
We really need Luke Cage for this.
- Now we’re talking.
Not sure but I think I'm seeing my client's (wefwef) version of that error message for a post on which I commented earlier today.
There was a discussion in which it was being debated whether men were worthy of help when being abused. It got disappeared.
I've got a screenshot of the post and the comment I made, but that's all I can get. The actual post, which was at https://wefwef.app/profile/lemm.ee/c/mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world/comments/24739440, is now gone.
Additionally, the user who made the post is also gone. The user's on a different instance than where it was posted: https://wefwef.app/profile/lemm.ee/u/Dble@lemmy.today
Can this content be recovered by someone else on a different instance, from a federation-synced copy of the content?
Anyway, screenshots of before and now: https://imgur.com/a/B2aEJrW
- interesting. many if not most of us left Reddit because of the censorship and power-hungry mods, thought we found freedom in Lemmy, although we'd been occasionally warned that censorship and power-hungry instance owners exist everywhere.
  
  I really feel like federated content has a built-in anti censorship potential, because an instance or community owner can only delete content in their own scope of authority. Federation naturally involves content being replicated.
  It’s too bad that the discussions all seem to be about how to centralize and control lemmy, as opposed to, you know, the dangers of centralized control.
it's not really surprising that anyone still into Elon at this point is going to be a little autistic at least.
- Hi, there
  I have been professionally diagnosed as being on the autism spectrum, formally as having Asperger’s Syndrome.
  I think I speak for quite a few people when I say please don’t lump those degenerate retards in with us, as their condition is, while yet undefined, something entirely unique and outside of the realm of psychiatric treatment or counseling, and thus cannot be helped.
  Thank you,
  King of the Aspies
- I dunno, man. Sometimes I’m really concerned with the echo chamber here. If you look at Lemmy and Reddit, it’s nothing but an Elon-hating amphitheatre, yet objectively, the guy still seems to be soaring up all the lists that matter.
  So, something isn’t right. The guy is obviously popular in places that matter, and it’s worrying that places like this never, ever, ever show it.
  I’d like to think Lemmy isn’t one-sided and biased but it clearly is.
  And for the record, I’m not pro or anti-Elon. I’m not plugged in (or care) enough to know shit about the guy. But what I’m not going to do is Boomer-lean into one source and parrot the sentiment. Isn’t that what us Gen-Ys and Gen-Zs are supposed to despise, and be too internet savvy to fall for, or are we following our parents into ignorance?
  
  What echo chamber? Elon has been screaming from the fucking rooftops for a few years now that he's a collosal piece of shit.
  He's anti-union, anti-worker, facsist, dodges taxes and has like a dozen kids because he believes in "white replacement".
  There's literally a meme about you on the top of my feed right now.
  https://lemmy.world/post/12354026
  
  "...soaring up all the lists that matter..."
  Maybe, objectively, our methodology for measuring greatness/worth is flawed.
  
  “ And for the record, I’m not pro or anti-Elon. I’m not plugged in (or care) enough to know shit about the guy”
  So wait are you commenting passionately on something you’re self-admittedly completely ignorant of or are you feigning ignorance to Stan for Elon?
There isn't. The admins and mods are all in a discord server where we discuss shit and yet me tell you there is nor a pro Tesla agenda.
Would you believe there is also a brigade working for years to make Tesla look terrible? https://stopelonfromfailingagain.com/
People. go figure.
Let me give you a hint. Tesla depends on carbon taxes put on other car manufacturers by the US Govt. When you criticize Tesla, you draw attention of the US Govt/Deep State.

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