Mozilla says Apple’s new browser rules are ‘as painful as possible’ for Firefox - The Verge
Mozilla says Apple’s new browser rules are “as painful as possible” for Firefox
Looking forward to the day I have the cash for Fairphone or some other alt to Android/iOS
Oh I didn't know about fair phone. Thank you for making me aware of this project.
Do your own research but I've heard they've gotten better.
Very welcome, my friend.
Be aware that their hardware has cross gen problems and their support is very bad. /e/os has implemented tracking id into their update service. They are calling cleanapk, they update OS and Webview extremly slow resulting in a very insecure OS.
I can recommend flashing /e/OS to de-google the Fairphone. Running smoothly on my FP3 since 2021.
Yes, they are also as painful as possible for every other browser. That's the point.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Apple’s new rules in the European Union mean browsers like Firefox can finally use their own engines on iOS.
Although this may seem like a welcome change, Mozilla spokesperson Damiano DeMonte tells The Verge it’s “extremely disappointed” with the way things turned out.
“We are still reviewing the technical details but are extremely disappointed with Apple’s proposed plan to restrict the newly-announced BrowserEngineKit to EU-specific apps,” DeMonte says.
In iOS 17.4, Apple will no longer force browsers in the EU to use WebKit, the underlying engine that powers Safari.
“Apple’s proposals fail to give consumers viable choices by making it as painful as possible for others to provide competitive alternatives to Safari,” DeMonte adds.
Epic CEO Tim Sweeney called the new terms a “horror show,” while Spotify said the changes are a “farce.” Apple’s guidelines are still pending approval by the EU Commission.
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Wonder if you could get an eu iPhone in the us, or use a vpn, or something else…
Probably ok with VPN if you never allow the phone to detect its location (gps and cell towers) cause Apple would know immediately.
But that begs the question of what happen to EU users traveling outside the EU region?
Yes you can. I imported my iPhone 15 from Canada because I wanted the physical sim car slot. It costs a pretty penny but if it’s what you value then it’s worth it.
I just bought mine on eBay and it showed up in like 3 days.
Wow, right up front, they're being disingenuous:
“The effect of this would be to force an independent browser like Firefox to build and maintain two separate browser implementations — a burden Apple themselves will not have to bear.”
...No? Apple won't bear that burden because they're going to keep using WebKit. Firefox can keep using WebKit. Not using WebKit is a choice, with pros and cons.
But then you read on and it says Apple is allowing the kit to not be used in the EU only. Outside of the EU, presumably, Firefox will still have to use the Webkit or whatever. So, while Apple uses its own engine in both the EU and the US on its phones, Firefox will be able to use its own engine in the EU, too, but will have to continue using Webkit in the US and other markets outside of the EU.
I'm not sure what disingenuous about that.
It’s disingenuous to act like this is some huge burden. You ship two browsers — one for the EU and one for other markets. Firefox already ships on a number of different platforms. Adding one branch isn’t going to kill them.
Or if it’s such a pain, you don’t bother and just ship the WebKit version everywhere.
Well maybe Apple shouldn't be so hostile to other browsers. Honestly I don't see why Firefox would bother will web kit. If they might as well not make a iversion.
Apple isn't that much of an asshole, it only does all the dick moves it is legally allowed to.
No their ads told me they’re the heroic guardians of my privacy.
I think they're probably better on privacy than default out of the box Android phones loaded up with Google adware, but that's such an incredibly low bar.
Which is obviously true, just like everything else you read on the web. If someone wrote it on the web, it has to be true. It’s we well known fact, that it physically impossible for it to be otherwise.
Can't think of any worse assholes except Google.
Just because they make nice looking hardware, you give them a pass.
Samsung finally ditched the stupid curved glass, so Androidland now has nice hardware too