The same solution to Apartheid in south Africa. Give the Palestinians the rights they deserve, stop oppressing them and Hamas magically disappears.
Also israel not funding Hamas could help. They surpress people and fund the organization that does armed resistance. Mhhh wonder why they got so many members.
Give the Palestinians the rights they deserve, stop oppressing them and Hamas magically disappears.
There's just no guarantee for that specific outcome.
Look what happened with the withdrawal from Afghanistan. Nominally, the Taliban were fighting the Western oppressors. But when U.S. troops left, the Taliban didn't just magically disappear.
For that matter, look at Saudi Arabia or Iran or Qatar or Dubai or Abu Dhabi. They're essentially doing the exact same thing as the Taliban, just with a lot more money. No outside oppressor there.
Given that Hamas shares a lot of the same ideology when it comes to ruling Gaza, what makes you believe they would just magically disappear? Why wouldn't Hamas want to rule Gaza like the Taliban rule Afghanistan, or like the House of Saud rules Saudi Arabia?
The solution was reached weeks ago when they killed 1200 innocent civilians. Now they're at 10x that amount. Time for them to go home and not do an ethnic cleansing.
I accidentally got banned from a Lemmy community and I’m truly trying to be as reasonable as possible so this is some touchy stuff because it’s horrible & true — especially if one on your relative perished in the Oct 6 surprise attack at the concert. Please don’t ban me but some of us have relatives that were killed in the attack and so… it’s horrible and true.
It's not self defense. Your relatives were sacrificed by the Israeli government to create a pretext to commit genocide against Palestinians.
Israel bombed hostages, hospitals, refugee camps, and buses full of children, If What Hamas did was terrorism then what Israel's doing is also terrorism.
There really is no way to bomb hospitals and then blame the hospital for being a human shield when it was your bomb that murdered those children.
In a just world there will be a reckoning for the government of Israel, and it involves sending a great deal of them to the Hague where they will hang until death.
So when Hamas guns down Israeli civilians that are not next to military targets it's justified and actually the fault of the jews, and when Israel strikes Hamas military targets that are deliberately placed next to their own civilians it's never justified and the jews hould hang?
Very cool.
There really is no way to bomb hospitals and then blame the hospital for being a human shield when it was your bomb that murdered those children.
What do you realistically expect armies to do when their opponents place all their military assets next to civilian targets? Just give up and kill themselves?
I've been banned from some random communities for pointing out that people are fully supporting Hamas, or just being brutally Antisemitic. This vileness is everywhere you look right now.
You weren't accidentally banned. Just saying.
Hope you and your family are holding up okay. This is a shit time.
No need to make it look like I'm biased though. If Israel did the same to their own citizens as hamas (not care about them, use them as a living shield, train them as terrorists, tell them from the child age they need to kill Palestinians) I'd criticize them much stronger.
Ah yes, the, "I destroyed your room and took your xbox over a gram of weed." parenting strategy. This has never once ever resulted in people utterly despising their parents for being overbearing tyrants...
The blame for 12000 Gaza civilians dying in response to 1000 Israelis is 100% on Israel.
After it's all said and done, is it the side that killed more civilians the correct side?
And just to add, Israel could have used this event to strengthen themselves on the world stage, to instead use covert systems to do their work (since they appear to have had been doing zero of that) instead of flattening city blocks and be internationally recognized as being under attack, worthy of those Stars they so brazenly wore, and Hamas being denounced worldwide. Instead they have become the bad guys, falling right into Hamas' hands.
That's about as "fair" as bombing a school because it has an active shooter in it and then claiming it was the shooter's fault you killed so many people.
I see. Killing civilians is justified you just have to blame it on the other party.
Dont tell Hamas about this they will say israel forced them to do it by starving two million people in a concentration camp and killing them every time they tried to peacefully protest so violent resistance was the only option they had left.
To which I say surely there has to a more discreet way of getting to the root of that problem than bombing thousands of innocent civilians. Their ends absolutely do not justify their means.