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To be fair, Hamas is hiding weapons and soldiers among civilians, so they deserve most of the blame.
Ah yes, the, "I destroyed your room and took your xbox over a gram of weed." parenting strategy. This has never once ever resulted in people utterly despising their parents for being overbearing tyrants...
The blame for 12000 Gaza civilians dying in response to 1000 Israelis is 100% on Israel.
After it's all said and done, is it the side that killed more civilians the correct side?
12,000 Gaza civilians... so far.
And just to add, Israel could have used this event to strengthen themselves on the world stage, to instead use covert systems to do their work (since they appear to have had been doing zero of that) instead of flattening city blocks and be internationally recognized as being under attack, worthy of those Stars they so brazenly wore, and Hamas being denounced worldwide. Instead they have become the bad guys, falling right into Hamas' hands.
That's because the goal was always genocide. The Israeli government needs Hamas to justify their genocide. They could have handled things more elegantly but if they did that then they wouldn't have gotten to murder thousands of Palestinians. They aren't falling into Hamas' hands; they are using Hamas as a tool to justify a genocide that they have been working towards for years now.
The Israeli government initially supported Hamas when they were elected because the political infighting helped them.
To say anything is 100% either side's fault tells me You're not really thinking about the situation.
Israel has the military might and the control. They're running the world's biggest open air prison.
By now, this conflict is ABSOLUTELY on Israel. Completely. Yes, they might still get attacked, but then it'd be a sovreign nation being attacked by terrorists instead of involuntary prisoners lashing out.
Israel is fully and completely responsible for those 12000+ civilian deaths in Gaza. Period.
Again, is the side that killed more civilians by the end of it the good guys?
Hamas kills Israeli civilians and you compare it to a teen having a gram of weed?? This whole comments section is detached from reality.
That's about as "fair" as bombing a school because it has an active shooter in it and then claiming it was the shooter's fault you killed so many people.
Wouldn't surprise me if that was under consideration in Uvalde..
While bomb is hyperbole, felony murder is a thing. If the cops shoot someone trying to stop a criminal, they do blame the criminal.
bomb is hyperbole
I don't see how. Thousands of civilians are being killed with bombs. That's literally what the meme is about.
Not sure how it works in your country, but in mine police are not allowed to disregard the safety of bystanders.
I mean, the main topic is literally Israel bombing hospitals and refugee camps... It is completely NOT hyperbole in reality to the actual topic of the main post.
I see. Killing civilians is justified you just have to blame it on the other party.
Dont tell Hamas about this they will say israel forced them to do it by starving two million people in a concentration camp and killing them every time they tried to peacefully protest so violent resistance was the only option they had left.
u consider raping women and burning children legitimate "resistance"?
Hamas killed 29 children on Oct 7 of which we got 1 baby in oven report without evidence.
So far israel has killed 5000+ children
Unless all the JDAMS israel throws on refugee camps are FDA approved child-safe it's pretty easy to figure that israel has burned and suffocated FAR more babies and kids than Hamas.
Israel is like Super-Hamas when it comes to killing babies and children.
Dodging the question?
2.4% of the Oct7 deaths were children so it doesn't look like Hamas were targeting them. If anything this number suggests Hamas mostly avoided killing children since 28% of israeli population is under 16 https://www.statista.com/statistics/526596/age-structure-in-israel/
Hamas is a bunch mediocre trained dudes with RPG's and AK's. If you do the violent resistance thing with guns in a civilian area then kids are gonna get hit. That and the israeli Hellfire missles that blew up the Kibbutzes afterwards might have burned some extra kids
You seem to be missing the entire point of the post that it's not okay when any party kills civilians.
If Hamas kills children it's unjustifiable. If israel kills 200 times more children than Hamas it's also unjustifiable.
You're the one who called those acts "resistance", thus I asked if u validate the the rape of women and burning of children, "even one" if it fits your narrative, as a legitimate resistance.
Can you link a source for this rape and child burning thing you're talking about? So far I haven't seen evidence. Are they right next to the 40 beheaded babies?
Uhm, no, i'm not twisted enough to want to see those things.
There are enough video evidence circulating by hamas themselves, so if in your belief system israel is pure evil, even u can't deny evidence given by your "resistance heroes", right?
I didnt' hear of the 40 beheaded babies but does it really matter to u how they killed babies? seriously? and should I remind u they took kids hostages? there was a literal video hamas released of that poor kid. "legitimate resistance" right?
Ah I see no source or evidence just like my own search suggested.
The 40 beheaded babies was a lie the IDF spread at the beginning for mass hate mongering. Genocide Joe said that he saw the pictures himself but later it turned out to be completely fake. https://youtu.be/RZikApSR0Z4?t=10s
Israel kidnapped tonnes of kids before Oct 7 what are you on about. Also seeing how Israel bombed the Kibbutzes to the ground afterwards killing everyone inside I'm pretty sure Hamas saved some of those kids.
That said, they might also have been killed by Israeli bombardement in Gaza now. A true dilemma of where the children are safest of being killed by israel.
https://youtu.be/JAMLENsreTU?t=14s These kids seem to be treated a LOT better than the israelis treat kids in prison: https://youtu.be/b2a80ZQXfFs?si=tZiqHB-ubPrmaOfq
To which I say surely there has to a more discreet way of getting to the root of that problem than bombing thousands of innocent civilians. Their ends absolutely do not justify their means.
I think you mean their stated ends
Their unstated ends make things even less justifiable.
Ah, the old “It’s your fault I hit you”.
look what you made me do to you
Use that line on your gf next time you have an argument. See if she still likes you afterward.