why does everyone hate material you?

1. It's bland and boring. Why would you ever want all the apps on your phone to be the same color? I understand some amount of consistent theming and styling so you know what things are buttons, where to find certain settings, etc. But Material You pushes them all to use the same exact color theme. This makes it harder to distinguish between Messages, Chat, and every other messaging app that takes on the the Material You coloring. They're all text, in the same font and color, on blobs that are the same color, with buttons that are all the same icon sets..... Can I figure it out? Sure. But it all blends together. It's bland. And soulless. It's in a way "commoditizing" design and making everything samey. This is especially drastic after Material Pre-You was extremely heavy on color. Go look at all the old Material design stuff. Everything is vibrantly showing brand colors.

2. It's dull. Holo was really dull. Material brought bright and saturated colors. Material You pushes back faded, low saturation, mushy, dull colors. Everything feels "dead", especially in contrast.

3. Everything is the same squishy shapes. Android has a long history of things like app icons having distinct shapes and emphasis on outlines and sillouhettes. This is shoving back even harder on "everythijg is a circle or a squircle"

4. Pixel has absolutely butchered features and customization options in order to make way for.... Pick a color?

5. Everything is fat and chunky. Buttons and margins are obscenely large. It feels childish. Material was sleek and efficient. You seems to take space for sake of taking space. It's wasteful and dysfunctional. More stuff in the notification shade (like brightness) was pushed behind another swipe because they just don't have space with all the quick settings having gobbled more space despite showing fewer shortcuts. This is just one example, but these things are everywhere.

6. Google does not take authoritarian control over app design of every app in their store. As such, devs take more time to update their apps. And so many apps just don't bother for a while. This means every change comes at the cost of fragmentation. And Material You is explicitly pushing for further unification. So it's inception is actively hurting its purpose. Case in point, skim through Googles own apps - they're in varying states of migrated, so Googles own first party apps aren't even consistent.

I understand this design could be appealing on paper, especially if you look at it in a vacuum. Objectively, it's a pretty good design language. But Android's previous design language was measurably better. It was objectively more efficient. So the people who have been using it blatantly are shown all the shortcomings. If you buy a new device with it, there's no context and it seems decent. If you upgrade, tons of the things you use just disappear . Instantly. Which shows its problems much faster.

Google has literally walked backwards here. In many ways. And it's half done, has problems, is bland, and blatantly less exciting and efficient than the thing it's replacing.

I personally like Material You. What I don't like is how Google apparently took away a bunch of the Pixel customization features (like icon shapes, fonts, etc) in favor of just material you

I think it's great. One of the best things that have come to Android in a while. Everytime you change the wallpaper all your apps and OS look new!

It's at the point where if the app doesn't have material you I won't install it.

I love it. I just wish we were allowed to manually pick the 3 colours.

Who is "we"? I love it.

I love it. So much.

Eh? We don't hate Material You.

I personally can't stand ultra minimalists UIs anymore. I want to go back to iOS6 or Windows Aero like designs.

Because it's awful. Minimalism that hides info, while making things harder to see/parse.

Because it takes all the worst of material and amplifies it. It's bland, and without any benefit from that blandness. Material at least popped a little, and was good at looking acceptable on almost any app or screen. Material you just looks half finished everywhere

Because its messing shit up and many people have wallpaper changers or animated wallpapers.

Also stop forcing shit on people without having a turnoff button as soon as its implemented.

Does everyone, now? Personally, I love it. I use Niagara and Smart launcher 6. The recent update of the niagara launcher made it even more consistent with icons. I love how the colors match on most of my apps.

I love it. All of my apps are all the same theme and it's wonderful. But I wish I could manually set each colour. Even if it's a setting in dev options.

I think it looks ugly. It selects the shitties colours possible. That's why I hate it. Also used to be that I couldn't turn the damn thing off.

I just don't understand why we need a new design language every year. Just choose something and stick with it. Idgaf what it is. Just stop changing it every year.

The neat thing about Android is you have a choice. If you don't like the launcher your phone came with, there are plenty of alternatives that you can use for free from the app store.

I recommend trying alternatives and seeing whether you like any of the others better. If you don't, you can go back.

my bigger issue is that im not big on material 3 tbh
now if they did all the color themeing stuff on material 2 id be more into it
material 3 is way too rounded and overly simplified for my liking

So I switched to a pixel 7 from an iphone 10 xs a few months back

Pixels are great, and they become even better when you install GrapheneOS. It's super easy and maybe takes 20 minutes, but it substantially improves your privacy and security. I switched from an iPhone to a Pixel running GrapheneOS and I don't want to ever go back, the experience on Graphene has been great.

Flat is bad, actually.

Windows XP, original iPhone, Winamp3 candy-style buttons were more discoverable, more distinct at a glance, and more usable. Even when they were completely stupid Cruelty Squad geegaws like any non-square Winamp3 skin. (Zoomers: you missed out on the dumbest sci-fi bullshit interfaces.)

Windows 95 had better design language. Every window element had clear hierarchy. They had relief shading and instant on-click visual responsiveness in eight megabytes of RAM.

What everyone's going back to is some Windows 3.1 nonsense, or Mac OS right before they fired Steve Jobs. Flat squircles with literal black-and-white contrast or none at all. Clickability sort of vaguely implied. Toggles failing to indicate which side is "off" - which are new, but stupid.

Even ugly Flash games gave things gradients.

I hate it because I can't change my colors now. I get a reddish brown on dark brown. I prefer white on black, which I've always had until Material You came along. I've researched how to turn it off, and it appears there's no way to do it on my model of phone.

I'd be fine with it, if I could disable it. It's the fact that it chooses your color scheme and you can't change it that is frustrating.