It's a class war. It always has been. The 1 percenters use their control of the media to keep the poor and middle classes fighting with each other, so that they . . . the rich, can run off with all the f*cking money.
I'd fuck them all because I don't judge.
Ah yeah, an enlightened centrist meme, coming directly from the deranged minds that think trying to take the middle road when one the sides is blatantly against human rights is a moderate position.
Calling out Capitalists as the greatest evil, isnt the centerist take you think it is....
Not worth engaging with the "centrist are evil" people. They just cant accept other pov's that arent theirs, specially if it implies their side should make a compromise. Im pretty sure they hate even more non partisan people rather than the team party they are suposed to hate because that is thinking outside the box and they dont like that very much.
Imo thats just a result of the partisan american culture war bullshit doing its intended purpose: divide and conquer.
To bad most of the media comes from hollywood and a lot of us non american people get indirectly involved in their bullshit.
This is obviously a leftist meme making fun of liberal and conservative fighting. It's from the perspective of someone to the left of liberals, not between liberals and conservatives.
That makes more sense. I was wondering why they were both saying the same thing when typically you'd expect liberals and conservatives to be arguing. Those to the left of liberals see everyone as "liberal," as in free markets and whatever, not political left/right, or at least the hexbear folks do.
Took me a bit longer than I'd like to admit to get what they were going on about when everyone was called liberal lol
This reads to me like a fairly leftist meme though, just more on the classical Marxist side.
It’s one of those memes that I can see from someone who thinks that the democrats are Marxists or from someone who gets really mad when you say that Marxism isn’t the end all be all of communism.
Either way, it comes with the failure to acknowledge that the culture war is one group trying to exist and the other being convinced to hurt them by the capitalist class.
It's not incorrect though. If we're worried about the erosion of human rights, it distracts from the fact that corps own our government. Not that that means we shouldn't fight the erosion of human rights as well. That's the brain dead centrist take.
The problem is where you draw the line. It's a fucking shame to democrats that Nancy "insider trading is OK when I do it" Pelosi is still politically relevant, but what are we gonna do when the alternate choice is a fascist?
Oh I'll still be voting for the lesser of 2 evils dont get me wrong, i dont fuck with lemmygrad.ml at all anymore because they have deleted multiple comments ive made arguing for the necessity of voting for the lesser of 2 evils to protect the Prolitariat long enough for class conciousness to grow in America.
From the left perspective in the US it's basically the Democrats who are the "enlightened centrist" position, if not center-right, because they think capitalism is redeemable if it has the right branding etc, and success in the system is at least in theory available to everyone. The right faction are more honest in how they embrace and take joy in how this system runs on exploitation, and are obviously more dangerous in the current climate. The Democrats have to be dishonest because they have to take an inherently exploitative economic arrangement and give it a positive spin.
Well, the rich seems to like the stuff the batshit insane right are spewing. Plus, they also benefit from those policies, like abortion bans, child labor law regressions, and of course tax cuts for those earning 6 figures at minimum.
America’s “left” is also not fighting these insane policies effectively. It’s like they’re pointing fingers at the GOP and going “Hey, that’s bad.”
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Seriously, Democrats support fascism
I'm not sure why centrism is so hated here. As long as you acknowledge one side is more damaging I don't see a problem with it. The other side might have less problematic views but they both subsist off of each other and thrive by creating vitriol between each other. It shouldn't be taboo to not support either one. This meme doesn't even really seem like its attempting to make that point anyway, although I understand how you could see it that way.
If you acknowledge one side as worse than another it isn't centrist. That would be taking a position.
The fence sitting of centrists say both sides are bad and not dealing with issues is why centrists are hated. They don't offer anything other than the 'Both Sides' argument.
At least that in what I have gathered my observations.
You've already passed the point where "both sides are equally bad" is reductive to your analysis.
I call out centrism because its almost always a right wing poster who knows they are wooing the undecided voter.
They both subsist off of each other and thrive by creating vitriol between each other.
You already answered why m8.
Trying to oppress minorities harder is actively a part of class war though. This is like, marxism 101
But fighting Culture Wars is only fighting symptoms, the root cause is Class oppression. Fighting symptoms is not wrong but cant be the end goal. The goal should be to use the Culture Wars to make people realize that.
Reminded me of this piece from Michael Parenti:
Class gets its significance from the process of surplus extraction. The relationship between worker and owner is essentially an exploitative one, involving the constant transfer of wealth from those who labor (but do not own) to those who own (but do not labor). This is how some people get richer and richer without working, or with doing only a fraction of the work that enriches them, while others toil hard for an entire lifetime only to end up with little or nothing.
Those who occupy the higher circles of wealth and power are keenly aware of their own interests. While they sometimes seriously differ among themselves on specific issues, they exhibit an impressive cohesion when it comes to protecting the existing class system of corporate power, property, privilege, and profit. At the same time, they are careful to discourage public awareness of the class power they wield. They avoid the C-word, especially when used in reference to themselves as in "owning class;' "upper class;' or "moneyed class." And they like it least when the politically active elements of the owning class are called the "ruling class." The ruling class in this country has labored long to leave the impression that it does not exist, does not own the lion's share of just about everything, and does not exercise a vastly disproportionate influence over the affairs of the nation. Such precautions are themselves symptomatic of an acute awareness of class interests.
Yet ruling class members are far from invisible. Their command positions in the corporate world, their control of international finance and industry, their ownership of the major media, and their influence over state power and the political process are all matters of public record- to some limited degree. While it would seem a simple matter to apply the C-word to those who occupy the highest reaches of the C-world, the dominant class ideology dismisses any such application as a lapse into "conspiracy theory." The C-word is also taboo when applied to the millions who do the work of society for what are usually niggardly wages, the "working class," a term that is dismissed as Marxist jargon. And it is verboten to refer to the "exploiting and exploited classes;' for then one is talking about the very essence of the capitalist system, the accumulation of corporate wealth at the expense of labor.
The C-word is an acceptable term when prefaced with the soothing adjective "middle." Every politician, publicist, and pundit will rhapsodize about the middle class, the object of their heartfelt concern. The much admired and much pitied middle class is supposedly inhabited by virtuously self-sufficient people, free from the presumed profligacy of those who inhabit the lower rungs of society. By including almost everyone, "middle class" serves as a conveniently amorphous concept that masks the exploitation and inequality of social relations. It is a class label that denies the actuality of class power.
The C-word is allowable when applied to one other group, the desperate lot who live on the lowest rung of society, who get the least of everything while being regularly blamed for their own victimization: the "underclass." References to the presumed deficiencies of underclass people are acceptable because they reinforce the existing social hierarchy and justify the unjust treatment accorded society's most vulnerable elements.
Seizing upon anything but class, leftists today have developed an array of identity groups centering around ethnic, gender, cultural, and life-style issues. These groups treat their respective grievances as something apart from class struggle, and have almost nothing to say about the increasingly harsh politico-economic class injustices perpetrated against us all. Identity groups tend to emphasize their distinctiveness and their separateness from each other, thus fractionalizing the protest movement. To be sure, they have important contributions to make around issues that are particularly salient to them, issues often overlooked by others. But they also should not downplay their common interests, nor overlook the common class enemy they face. The forces that impose class injustice and economic exploitation are the same ones that propagate racism, sexism, militarism, ecological devastation, homophobia, xenophobia, and the like.
https://valleysunderground.files.wordpress.com/2020/04/blackshirts-and-reds-by-michael-parenti.pdf
Damn Michael be spittin.
Minimizing human rights issues to further the cause for socioeconomic ones doesn't make you an enlightened anticapitalist, it makes you ideologically pro-CCP.
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Yeah, that raised an eyebrow for me too.
Why is the purple hair causing so many folks to get hung up on this meme calling out the Capitalists that pit the Prolitariat against one anothet in order to distract them from the class war being waged against them? Yall are automatically assuming that purple hair makes the person's takes similar to your own. Like wtf?
In order to believe that the "culture war" is somehow obfuscating class in a way that tricks workers into superfluous concerns you have to believe that the "culture war" is outside of the class interests of most Americans. IT IS NOT.
The "culture war" is a manifestation of tensions within the class structure of the US. Colonized peoples are making their voices heard and so the ruling classes along with the metropolitan and white working classes, are responding by arguing amongst themselves, once again, what is to be done with the colonized? Should they be silenced? Assimilated? Enfranchised? These are questions as old as settler-colonialism and are natural to class structures with global stratifications.
The cultural questions are emergent from structure and superstructure of capitalist and colonial relations. They were not invented by the fucking boogyman at Chase Manhattan who then forces the helpless poor to be racist or woke. Routinely the voices of the colonized are co-opted by working people on either side of the "culture war" for their own ends, to protect their class status. The subsequent contradictions then fuel the development of colonial political discourse.
The "culture war" and its vulgarity absolutely doesn't just protect the rich, it protects white people and metropolitan workers from having to reckon with their own class character for the benifit of their class, which is stratified fundamentally differently from that of colonized nations within their own apparent borders, or the "4th world," or from the rest of the world beyond their borders.
Not everything is about the dastardly rich people tricking the stupid workers into working against their own interests. What reductive thinking! Working people in the core are fine to argue with their uncle at thanksgiving, and ultimately advance colonial discourse, to assert an identity that can distract from the fact that THEY HAVE MORE TO LOSE THAN THEIR CHAINS.
By participating in the "culture war" they can ultimately engage in class struggle AGAINST the global proletariat, AGAINST the 4th world, and uphold the stratification that they enjoy. The "culture war," therefore, is not a distraction, it is the redirection and co-optation of colonized class antagonisms by the American colonial project for its own purposes, including for its lesser classes.
Correct me if im wrong, but what you are saying is that, Class War is Greater than OR Equal to Culture War.
Im saying people generally are deeply mistaken about culture and class formation in the US, and from that ignorance a multitude of mistakes are made, including the idea that the culture war is a distraction made up by the rich.
Those two people in the terrarium are exactly equivalent.
Yes to the ruling class they are.
Bro, it literally doesn't matter because both MAGA and the ruling class are the two major hurdles for the left.
Take the ruling class out and the left and the right will still go to war against each other.
It's not the ruling class making them fight. They're choosing to fight with each other, and scapegoating the situation on the ruling class is a factually incorrect thing to do.
To all of us. They are exactly the same, having the same ideological faults and exactly the same moral deficiencies.
Ultra mega based
