Swiss parliament approves ban on full-face coverings like burqas, and sets fine for violators
Swiss parliament approves ban on full-face coverings like burqas, and sets fine for violators
im not the biggest fan of the muslim faith but this is stupid
Austria also has a law like that, and it has been a complete shitshow. There have been fines for someone wearing a scarf while riding a bike and for someone at work dressed up in a body suit in front of the shop for advertisement reasons (like a mascot).
When the law went into effect, the newspapers reported that there were about ten muslim women currently wearing coverings in the whole country.
After years of covid where everyone would supposedly die in terror attacks if the face coverings happened I'm surprised this fear mongering still manages to pass.
Full face covering burqas are not really an Islamic thing. The headscarves are. The burqas are a cultural thing for some. And usually almost nobody actually wears them. But you can get brownie points with the racists for passing these laws and show that your country is well on the way to moral decline.
Gotta make sure you don't compromise that facial recognition
Apparently measuring a person's natural walking gait is far more effective at identifying people. Who knew Monty Python had it right, so long ago.
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Maybe you are being downvoted because you are not adding anything to the conversation either? What does that suppose to mean?
I haven't even made made any sort or argument for or against yet and am still downvoted
"I haven't actually said anything and my post has no value"
Sounds like downvotes are working as intended.
I hate this. What if I wanna cover my face to evade facial detection? That's illegal now?
no dont worry, its only the brown people face coverings that are bad
What if I'm cold or want to go skiing? I could wrap a scarf over my face which I have done. Is that not illegal because it's not the same garment?
What about COVID? Wouldn't masks conflict with that also? Of all countries I'd never imagine one with a colder climate to make such a law.
Not sure where you're getting your masks from but mine sure aren't covering my whole face.
Can see the argument for skiing masks and shit though
Austria has a similar law. And a website that connects the local whether report with the rules for when wearing a scarf is okay.
So I have to look at the internet to see if I'm allowed to protect myself from the cold? Oh not officially cold enough even though it's making my face hurt, guess I'll just suffer because God forbid I'm allowed to be the one who decides how much of my body I went exposed to the elements.
You like authoritarian control of the most basic parts of people's lives, most people don't want to live in a world like that.
I can understand the reasoning for government officials and kids at school, but what are they smoking to straight up ban it in their country?
The same thing islamist countries are smoking when they kill women not covering their head, probably.
These do seem inconsistant. What about 95 masks? that covers the face and nose.
But not the eyes. Besides it's easy to include an exception for legitimate medical purposes - even considering the law was written by a bunch of quasi-fascists I would be surprised if that's not covered in the law, especially since the article mentions there are exceptions.
Seems like this is the initiative they passed.
The English language selection in the top right doesn't seem to work but (3) states:
The law provides for exceptions. These include exclusively reasons of health, safety, climatic conditions and local customs.
It's a bit vague but they seem to have thought of it.
What I find curious is that this seems to be no mere law but a change to the constitution.
Do those other things cover the eyes? How do they see? Isn't something that covers the eyes essentially a blind fold. This makes em wonder further. I have never been to switzerland but I am under the impression it can be cold. I am from a place where it is cold. In extreme cold I have scarf, baclava, etc combined with goggles. Is that not allowed? Is skiing at all popular there??? (yeah that last one is a bit satirical rhetorical)
Never go full Trump.
This gave me a good laugh
I wonder if all the Muslims here saying "women should be dressing whatever they want", also protest the same in muslims countries where women are killed for not covering their hair.
I can't even take half of you seriously. Every religion is a cult, but this one is an extremely misogynistic cult and you don't get anything for being their unpaid defenders online beyond the knowledge that you protected extreme womanizers.
so u punish the act, you dont do a blanket statrment that mostly affects the followets of one religion, u make it illegal to: -force someone to wear something not make it illegal to: -wear smt
Dont you rralize that thosecountries that are fucked up, have sharia law etc, are doing the same thing? One thing in common: Controlling how people dress.
In one you are controlling by telling people they have to wear x, in the other by telling people they cannot wear x, at the end of the day the affected are those who want to be able to choose, not some fucking terrorist.
A country telling women what to wear will be on the same page in my book as the country telling women what not to wear.
I'd rather see swiss banks having to spill the beans about their many criminal enterprises and criminal customers. Tax evasion is a crime, for those unaware
wear a face mask all the time then... cough cough COVID
Yea how can you ban face coverings in the covid times lol
Winter is gonna be fun, lol. Austria already implemented and rolled back a similar ban.
The article says there are exceptions, but doesn't provide any useful information unfortunately.
Don't worry. Its only for brown people.
Winter is gonna be fun, lol.
They'll have a list of exceptions that basically means anyone but muslims.
Austria already implemented and rolled back a similar ban.
It's still in force.
If female sexual agency is somehow shameful, while male sexual agency isn't, then this needs to be argued for with good reasons.
I myself reject any form of double standards.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
GENEVA (AP) — The lower house of Switzerland’s parliament voted Wednesday to give final legislative passage to a ban on face coverings, such as the burqas worn by some Muslim women.
It was pushed through by the right-wing, populist Swiss People’s Party, easily overcoming reticence expressed by centrists and the Greens.
The move follows a nationwide referendum two years ago in whch Swiss voters narrowly approved forbidding niqabs, which leave slits for the eyes, and burqas as well as ski masks and bandannas that are worn by some protesters.
With the lower house vote, parliament cemented the ban into federal law and set a fine of up to 1,000 francs (about $1,100) for violators.
Few women in Switzerland wear full face coverings like burqas, which are perhaps best known as garb worn in Afghanistan.
The national legislation will put Switzerland in line with countries such as Belgium and France that have enacted similar measures.
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Just in time for Halloween!
(Probably not a big thing in CHE)
Around where I live the people wearing full face coverings appear to be middle aged Asian women trying to protect their skin from the summer heat. Way to mess with their goal of eternal youth.
I would like to see this world wide. It's crazy we let this extreme misogyny exist because of some bullshit like religion.
Guess the next Fasnacht is gonna see some changes, then.
Nope, there's an exception for "cultural events". And one for medical equipment. Pretty much everything beside being Muslim is excepted.
No one should be told what to wear. Besides, I like women in burqas because I like to know which ones are property of another man.
This has potential as a joke.
Started out so well and went downhill fast...
I'm tired of hearing about how America is a beacon of racism. This isn't the first western European country to do this.
If you read the article, they are banning basically anything that covers your face. Title is what it is to get people's reactions because of course it is.
And if you read the actual law (in German) basically any reason but being muslim is excempt.
Art. 2
[...]
Exceptions:
a. at places of worship;
b. to protect or regain your own or others health;
c. for security reasons;
d. for weather protection;
e. in contexts of local (lit "native"/ "indigenous") customs;
f. as part of arts and entertainment;
g. for advertising purposes.
Like, I get wanting to defend the rights of women under oppressive religions and governments, but how exactly does controlling what women are allowed to wear accomplish that?
It’s because this has nothing to do with that. It’s virtue signaling that they don’t like Muslims, nothing less and nothing more.
Being Islamophobic is a Virtue now?
No, you dont get it.
This law isn't exclusive to women, it applies to men too
I just hate these hijab wearing men that I see all the time.