VC behind ‘996’ work culture debate says 5-day weeks won't build billion-dollar startups
VC behind ‘996’ work culture debate says 5-day weeks won't build billion-dollar startups
Check out the bags under this guy's eyes. He's not even thirty
Robber Barons are back in style!
Why is anyone questioning why people want to murder the rich and support social programs more and more. You have just sit and think how much people will take before they absolutely slaughter these fucking pieces of human trash.
They throw people in concentration camps without any process, much less due process, get giant tax breaks while taking away people's healthcare, layoff thousands of workers while getting a generous bonus, dump toxic waste in the rivers, use 45% of the corn grown to make ethanol that doesn't solve anything, and say there's not enough room for solar panels.
But don't post Luigi memes because that's inciting violence.
Y'all know why there aren't any more Robber Barons right? ✊👷
Can we just agree as a society that people like this are ruining the world? Maybe if they were treated like the enemies of humanity they are, and exposed to 1% of the misery they cause, it would be a less common genre of shitty person?
This guy's upset you won't break your back to make him richer.
What a piece of shit.
We need to tax these fuckers till they bleed.
Yeah, it's the only nonviolent way to control them.
Stebbings, founder of 20VC, a firm managing $650 million in funds, advised founders on LinkedIn last month that “7 days a week is the required velocity to win right now,” to compete with startups in Silicon Valley and China.
Just from that sentence you can tell the guy leads an impoverished life in ways that won't be fixed by money. But he's going to spend his life chasing money because he can't imagine what else to do with it.
These are the people when some folks say “you can’t buy happiness” are referring to because they will never be happy.
Just like all the other psychopath techbros, he'll take from everyone else, make everyone miserable, wallow in his superiority, and be a general scouge to Earth in an attempt to fill a void that will always just expand anyways. At the end of the day, they'll always have the most money and still be the poorest people in the world. No amount they exploit from the rest of us will satiate their ravenous, everlasting hunger.
They'll punish us, who they envy for our ability to live rich lives with emotions that they will never experience.
If we're lucky, they'll realize it and kill themselves.
This sounds like hes just describing an oversaturated market
If there's one thing that businessmen and investors demonstrate an appalling lack of understanding of, it's economics.
Yeah, you can go fuck yourself with your 7 day work week.
What I don't get is...they can just hire more people to do the work and expand the company? When you consider this, you realize that they're just asking people to work 40% more without an increase in pay (hence hiring more people is not an option)...then they call it "productivity gains".
Then they'll complain when no one wants to work those ludicrous hours and they'll sing one of the greatest hits of all time:
"nOBodY WaNts To woRk ANyMorE"
they can just hire more people
In software development, it's not that easy. Having multiple people working on the same code adds a lot of overhead. Also, finding another excellent programmer is slow and expensive. (The "fast, cheap, good: pick two" rule applies.)
Plus, do you want two software developers with a good work/life balance and fulfilling ways to spend their free time, or do you want one software developer with mental issues that, among other things, leave him with nothing to do except work and no source of meaning in life except getting work done? The first option is more dependable, since the guy in the second option is crazy. However, if you're building a startup then you need to take risks and the second option is the one more likely to create something amazing. (IMO, of course.)
Your 'work' and my 'work' are different, Boy Wonder.
Nice - Amazon executive and doesn’t know how to use its and it’s properly.
Good - nobody needs billion-dollar startups. The line doesn't have to co constantly go up forever. We don't need to constantly improve productivity and do more for less. Fuck that and fuck this "debate".
I remember reading about a hotel in Japan that has been open for over a millennium, and IIRC it’s owned by the same family who has owned it for most of that time, and that’s their only business. We need more of that: steady-state businesses that operate but don’t pursue permanent growth.
"Debate"? What fucking "debate"?
Someone suggests something comedically fucked up and it's now a debate?
Shut the fuck up and sit down, you VC cunt. No one wants to hear your clown-show takes.
Someone suggests something comedically fucked up and it's now a debate?
Yep, this is the legacy of social media. And it's been tearing apart the fabric of society.
JFC, I loathe douchebags like this so very much.
I love how we're simultaneously being told that AI is this wonder invention that's streamlining everything but also that we're apparently supposed to now work 12 hours a day, 6 days a week.
Either AI works as advertised, in which case let it do most of the work and let us work less, or AI doesn't actually help at all, in which case fuck off and stop trying to shoehorn it into everything.
Meanwhile, some places have been trying out 4-day 8 hour days, and have found that they retain competent staff who have fewer accidents and make fewer errors, increasing company productivity while reducing wage spend.
Yeah, I'd rather pay for clear-minded hours of a worker, rather than near-burnout hours. But the guy doesn't care, he's trying to compete by saving in wages...at the frontline of tech. It makes no sense either way.
I've told bosses before they can have either my early hours or my best hours, but not both. There's so much waste in our work lives trying to fit to some picture of productivity that isn't actually real. We just play the parts we're required to while getting nothing done.
Jokes on him: some of the laziest jobs I’ve had were for successful startups.
Hell, I work for a startup right now and spent the last three hours in my hammock watching YouTube.
I get paid for results, not time
Must be nice. I've worked for a couple myself, and all I constantly felt like I was being exploited the entire time.
I’ve worked for a few where I was being exploited. One paid me by letting me keep the laptop they bought me.
Then some accountant called me and asked if I still had it.
I said no.
Luckily as you do this more you learn what to look out for. The one I work for now is pretty great.
CEOs 996 is 9 hours per week, 9 days per month, 6 months a year right?
Says the dude who counts golfing, diners, other events as "work"
Screw all Venture capitalist. They destroy everything they touch. Why should a worker give all they've got just to get screwed in the end?
You'll get four and you'll like it.
We don’t need a society of billion dollar startups, and we don’t need cunts like him using our oxygen.
Given how much billion dollar start-ups are ruining our world, wouldn't that be a good thing?
The rich are ripping the copper out of the walls of society before it all comes crashing down. They burn out employees, throw them away and hire fresh ones. Who cares, they're not planning of any of this lasting much longer.
Yeah you can fuck yourself with a rusty pitchfork. I'd prefer death over those shitty hours.
He might be right, but if he wants me to work more than 5 days a week then I would expect to be compensated accordingly. Otherwise he can fuck off.
I don't even think he is right... Productivity already takes a nose dive at like 40 hours
I mean this is just how you get any real talent with any real mobility to use that mobility to leave.
Isn't the point of working hard so that you can take it easy eventually? These psychos never take it easy, the suffering is the point for them.
It can be that or it can be the satisfaction of doing useful work well. Venture capitalists don't do useful work so they don't know that satisfaction. And they don't know what else to do but chase money because they lack the capacity to appreciate life as it is and are probably scared to just stop, in case they have to face the void in their heart. Hence their unstoppable, narrow-minded craving for more money.
It's the difference between people who "work to live," vs. those who "live to work."
The latter are borderline sociopaths, at best
But it literally did.
All those men lost in the jungle and now we’re giving credibility to the Viet Cong. We truly have fallen.
oh no
I'd be so mindful of how i spoke, if I had a Backpfeifengesicht like him.
996 work culture isn't for everyone - or even most people. But if someone wants to start a company doing something they love and work that much, I say go for it. I started a company, albeit I only work 60/week, doing something I love and working with my family. It isn't the only way, but is the way that works for us. 🤷
That’s fine since you get the upside of the business as an owner. A salaried employee may not. Equity may be offered too, but i have seen enough situations where the capital investors get a payout that leaves those with lesser shares in the cold.
In short, fuck these people, pay me to care and I may choose to help build their business.
One cannot eat pie in the sky.
I'm fine with that, it just sounds like these people think they can commodify that kind of dedication in exchange for much less than what you got creating your own.
albeit I only work 60/week
You do realize that this is a lot of fucking hours to work per week, right? We need to stop normalizing this shit.
If it is your startup, you are free to work 996 mode. Don't expect your employees to do the same.