The people who voted for Zohran Mamdani are also taxpayers.

Mamdani's ideological approach may terrify some employers... the ones that are currently massively dodging taxes, paying way, way lower taxes, getting all kinds of tax exemptions and deductions, getting all kinds of no strings attached subsidies... from actual taxpayers.

The idiot capital class is obviously propogandizing in overdrive mode, but they also seem to be largely legitimately delusional about realizing how astonishingly subsidized they are by public financing, so that they can concentrate private profits.

'But it would be impossible to run my business without training wheels and floaties and a helmet all provided to me by the government!!!'

Ok fuckstick, don't care, sounds like a skill issue to me if you can't main as a capitalist without a bunch of handicaps on, either get gud or stop pretending you deserve your spot on the 'free market' league leaderboard.

what self respecting capitalist wouldn't try to pay as little for a service they are forced to have as the possibility can?
- one who likes living in a world with.. things.. in it
  what you're talking about is people who treat capitalism as a fucking religion, who think the only point to life is to make number go up.
  A sane "capitalist" will realize that it should be a means to an end, that the actual goal is to make life nice, so it only make sense to apply capitalist practices up to the point where it causes harm.
  Like, what are you going to do with billions of dollars if there's no one to maintain the roads and airports and railways? What joy would you experience on a wasteland planet with no pretty nature and human culture?
  Think of an old-timey shopkeep for example, sure they operate under capitalism, but they still want to fucking talk to their customers and be part of the community, and they'll give kids some extra candy for free because they can trivially afford to do so and it brings them joy to see happy kids, plus those kids will then grow up and remember how ol' shopkeep Williams was nice to them and they'll help him out in his twilight years.

I am tired of the boomer narrative of that it's always those "young people" ruining everything. Oldest millennials are now in their mid-40's. Or even worse, the youngest gen-z people are almost 18 now. These people have been paying their taxes for years on end now.

The only terrified people in this scenario are the literal parasites who don't pay anything, through loopholes and theft

The lone defender of the billionaires at this point says everything we need to know

[Gen-Z] the generation loosely being defined as people born around 1997 to 2012.
Yep it is so stupid everyone blaming the boomers when they are no longer the largest voting block. But millennials are, also nobody wants to admit young people are stupid also.
- No, boomers are responsible for the mess of crap we've found ourselves in. That's why people blame them for it. They voted for "i got mine, and pulled the ladders up that helped them build their wealth and education". That's why we blame them for shit still.
- OK, boomer
- Boomers were responsible for Reagan and Citizens United, you could maybe blame Gen X for Bush and Trump but definitely can't blame Millennials on that.
  In fact, Millennials were even more progressive aligned than Gen Z in the last election, with a -16 point shift between Biden and Harris. A lot of outlets are reporting a large Gen Z specific move to the right as they added 8 Million more voters to the pool in 2024, although take that claim with a grain of salt because the only data I could find on it was the 18-44 age group.

They don't believe anyone under a certain income pays taxes. "Taxpayer" just means "upper income tax bracket" in their mind.

Euphemisms like that and "job creators", "wealth creators" are an instant tip-off that whoever's talking is a weaselly venal slimeball.
Oddly enough, when it comes to less dense suburbs with richer people in them, the cost to the city is always more than those people pay in taxes. They pay more but they’re actually using poorer people’s taxes to pay for their shitty “neighbourhoods”, in quotes because the word implies a level of community they could only dream of.
Also brown people don’t pay taxes in their fantasy world. It’s just another racist dog whistle.
... people under a certain income level don't pay any taxes
- They certainly pay sales taxes, possibly property taxes too, they probably have to pay fines because the cops love to prey on the poor, and there's also fees to use government services. That's all taxes.
  But there's this concentrated attempt to denigrate people with lower income as useless eaters that don't contribute to society, and so they don't think any of that counts.
- Even if you discount all other forms of taxation, and only focus on income taxes, the sentiment is irrelevant to this particular vote.
  His support appears to be concentrated in the middle class. (Median household income in NYC is about 80k, right about the peak of his vote share)
- You're right, but people over a certain tax bracket are also pretty good at not paying taxes.
- People with great wealth don't pay taxes. They employ loopholes only available to the wealthy. Btw, almost every state has sales tax, you dipshit.
- Okay, they "don't pay taxes", but the government still takes the money and then returns it if they ask for it (i.e. file a tax return). That isn't quite the same as not paying.
  Also, you have to be stupidly poor to get all of your taxes returned.

"employers and taxpayers" is like "job creators".

They don't want to say "the ultra wealthy" because that would be too accurate for the owner of the site, who is an ultra wealthy person.

It's so backwards too, since the ultra wealthy are the ones who most dodge paying their fair share of taxes.

nah it terrifies tax dodgers and leeches of society

Higher Income people actually prefer the Socialist lmfao

Its somehow the poor people that get gaslighted into voting for conservatism

Ironic

~~I imagine the difference in the cost of living between NYC and upstate New York compensates for that? Median income alone isn't a super useful metric~~
Brain fart, disregard
- Upstate NYers can't vote for mayor of NYC
- I think you're a little confused.
  NYC = New York City
  This is a Mayoral Primary Election. Every voter here is a resident of New York City
  Mayor = Leader of the Executive Branch of a city.
  For NY State, the Leader of the Executive Branch would be called the Governor

I appreciate that they say that employers don't pay taxes.

That's an interesting way of phrasing "has actively enabled corruption for decades".

WANTED: KATHY WYLDE

For contributing to social murder, ideologically justifying excess deaths among the lower classes in order to keep the upper class hierarchy.

That job description says it all

the scariest part about tax the millionaires policies for millionaires is that we did it in massachusetts and the outcome was that it worked and raised billions for the state

"The media" love nothing more than to find the absolute most disgusting scum in our country and interview them for their opinions...

Outrage generates clicks, clicks generate revenue.
We're both here because we're disgusted by the headline so it obviously works.
- While generally true, I think "the media" does what I mentioned in order to "manufacture consent" in cases like this. They want to create the image of what is "real" and what "people you should believe" think. God forbid you should think for yourself and agree with a spooky spooky socialist, no no we need to make you afraid of him! We need you to believe that only "freeloaders" vote for him and "real taxpayers" will be hurt by him!

This is very Boomers thinking everyone is still a 16 year old Millennial.

Boomer brains stuck in 1998, and it shows.

imho that's what connects all the right, from finance bros to masculinists to racists : they're terrified. Of change, of difference. Of others. They're deathly afraid and it explains every action they take, every word they say.

It's worse than that. I'm affraid of these things sometimes too. They are affraid of being affraid. They can't handle it, they can't admit it and they do everything ti disguise it. It's a very primal emotion

I'll bet Kathy Wilde doesnt pay taxes. Also, that job description says "oligarch enabler".

In a late 2020 interview, she described herself as "the lone defender of the billionaires at this point".[1] Pro Publica reported in 2018 that Wylde’s salary exceeded $1.1 million, which would make her among the highest paid non-profit executives in the State of New York.[2]
Jesus fucking christ.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathryn_Wylde
- J'aime les plumbers verdes

We’re the taxpayers that want “free” health care while simultaneously paying taxes. The Right somehow thinks we’re too stupid to know we pay taxes that makes these things happen. Heck…we want people to have nice things.

Meanwhile the Right doesn’t want to pay taxes yet somehow expects to get social services like paved roads or safe drinking water. I’d mention schools or health care but the republicans clearly DGAF about those things.

This is not specific to this post but can we please not hype the guy up too much before we see what he actually does when in office? From all the news coverage I'm getting a 'He is the Messiah! We are rescued!' vibe. He may still bend the knee to the rich once he has power.

It's also just a mayor. Sure mayor of NYC but it's barely influential.
- Fuck off with your negativity
- We can judge him in his role as a mayor. Maybe he will get into a more powerful position later. He wouldn't be the first.
I think it's because its funny to see the far-right seethe

millionaires? you mean taxnonpayers?

Actually unreadable with the size thing and bloat

Oh no. Anyway...

Wait, are you telling me that because he got elected I don't have to pay taxes? Bonus!

Um, good?