Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme
Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme
A 21-year-old tourist has described the horrendous treatment he allegedly received after being denied entry to the USA due to a meme depicting JD Vance as bald being found on his phone
This not only has been going on awhile, it's worse than it sounds.
A French scientist was denied entry at the border earlier this year, in March, after officers unearthed messages criticising Trump on his phone.
Mikkelsen explained: "They threatened me with a minimum fine of $5,000 or five years in prison if I refused to provide the password to my phone."
Any idea if these threats are actionable? He's not a US citizen to just fine or imprison.
They have "deported" dozens of US citizens at this point. Usually, being a non-citizen makes you more vulnerable to arbitrary bullshit at the border, whereas if you're a citizen you can stand up much more so for your rights if they're trying to push you into something illegal, but as of this year it's starting to matter less and less.
Everything is actionable once the rule of law collapses. At this point, if you're crossing the border, you're in danger of whatever they want to do to you.
they are not legal, as the first amendment applies even to noncitizens. however that doesn’t mean they can’t deny entry for “any” reason. they are fascist after all.
Depressingly, SCOTUS has ruled that you really don't have the same rights at border crossings as you do once you've passed through.
This applies to citizens as well as foreign nationals.
Once you're in a country you are subject to that country's laws, it's a thing you need to be aware of when traveling. A lot of people find that out the hard way.
So yea, they are actionable if they want it to be.
How do you put someone in prison who has not entered your country yet?
And I thought it was already ruled that they can't hold someone for that long just for not giving up a password at the border?
shouldve wrote it in french, instead of english. also whats a scientist still doing in the USA, they are usually fleeing the us.
imagine going on holiday in a country where they check your phone for memes
seeing the grand canyon seems cool but it can wait until that lunatic and his friends are gone
Keep in mind that TSA searching peoples' phones was already policy under the last few administrations. Which is part of why I wasnt interested in traveling there even before the lunatic.
I've been avoiding travel to the US since the Patriot Act that followed 9/11 started that kind of shit and more in general the US started moving away from Democracy and into Autocracy.
Last time I felt like traveling to the North American continent I just went to Canada instead for a whole month - sea kayaking in British Columbia, hiking in the Canadian Rockies, sightseeing in Quebec . Highly recommended by the way.
That should be against privacy laws in some countries and considering you can sue people from outside the US into the US court because of US rules it would make sense to have it the same with that human rights form one country exist in other countries. Sadly the world isn't built ontop of logic.
that's crazy honestly
Absolutely!
I have family in the US. Uncles and aunts and cousins. One of my cousins have a child who I've never met. I would love to meet them all.
But there is no way I'm going to the states in the current condition. And even if the administration would be replaced, I think it would take years for the states to recover to the point where I would visit.
If they want to see you, they'll have to come to you.
I thought this was the onion but its real... :)
It seems the mentality of the United States rulership have shifted back to the dark ages.
I wonder if accusing people of being witches is next.
The United States is such a shithole country lol
No one should travel there.
US is China now.
I have never had my phone searched for memes (or at all, for that matter) when entering China.
what are we, a bunch of asians?
Why are you bringing up race when somebody is talking about national policy
Please be satire, please be satire...
reads
...Oh, fuck.
Sorry for the mediocre source, but it looks like it got its facts and translation right.
Oh, it's real. It's in other places as well.
New profile pic
I've finally found my banner pic lol
But, but Elon told me comedy was legal now!
Only if you're punching down, obviously
Same thing i asked the other guy who posted this.
Do you have a source that isn’t a tabloid? The only other sources i found were other tabloids.
I’m sure horrible shit is happening but tabloids aren't news. They are meant to get an emotional reaction via mistruths and exaggeration. And you having a one day old account makes this even more suspect.
It was reported first by Nordlys, a local newspaper based in Tromsø, and then picked up by ofher Norwegian media. The story is most likely true.
Well the CPB claims it was for drug use, but I don't trust them
Though it DOES indicate that there is more to the story than just tabloid bait
At the time (up until 18 hours ago), no.
All things considered, though, the tabloid actually did a decent job of reporting on the story and not sensationalizing it.
If the markers on my search engine are telling me the truth, after I posted this Raw Story picked it up 16 hours ago.
TIME picked it up 3 hours ago.
See - this is the thing with people going on about how its so oppressive in countries outside of "The West" where they will arrest people for insulting their king on Facebook or some shit.
We are no better. I'm not American but Britain does the same kind of shit. Read some declassified police case files, the cops pick on weird shit on people's phones.
And this is just for insulting the king's jester.
States are states are states are states. They just fucking do that.
Yuup
Read some declassified police case files, the cops pick on weird shit on people's phones.
Care to link some?
Mads Mikkelsen
If you are doing any international travel, leave your personal phone at home and bring a burner.
I have traveled the world, I just returned from China. Nobody has ever asked for my phone. This is crazy and it's definitely not the norm and is not happening even in very strict regime countries. This is the new USA.
It's not the norm but it does happen quite a bit, especially in authoritarian countries at land borders where the officials are always looking for a way to justify their jobs. It happened to me last year and that was in China, although in that case leaving not entering.
PS: for info, that was in Xinjiang at possibly the highest security border in the world. I showed the official a bunch of my mundane tourist photos, which was enough to have me on my way. Not a pleasant experience though.
have you tried being non-white /s
Or just not travel to the USA
JD Vance meme
No, that’s just how he looks.
That's when he consumed a couch
Do they have the right to search your phone ?
They always had. The US border has this special exemption to the constitution that some of the normal protections don't apply.
If you are a citizen, they (legally speaking) can't deny you entry, but can jail (detain) you for 48 hours and seize all your belongings, and put your on a no-fly list if they wanted to.
If you are not a citizen, they could deny you entry on top of all that.
This was always the case in previous administrations, its just that in previous administration, they weren't this insane.
yes.
Well too bad for me, my memes will need go away and my message history with my sister and friends on signal too
Really compromising
If it can be unlocked through biometrics yes, according to SCOTUS
ALWAYS use a passcode, you cannot be compelled to divulge those
you cannot be compelled to divulge those
They can deny entry.
Even for US citizens, they could still detain you for 48 hours, seize all belongings, and put you on a no-fly list.
Yes, of course they have. Without you being present, even.
I'm not sure about the US, probably, as others have said. Most countries it's less about a right and more about if you refuse, they'll just stick you in holding and deny you entry.
They can search your asshole, nevermind your phone.
Did you even say thank you?
He claims he was then strip-searched, forced to give blood samples, a facial scan and fingerprints.
Imagine having your biometrics taken and your blood forcibly siphoned by state-backed goons with guns for a meme.
Heads need to roll.
Lets teach that uneducated moron Vance the Streisand effect.
Welcome to the new authoritarian America. Brought to you by craven politicians and a huge group of dipshits who consistently vote against their best interests because they only consume information straight from the sewer pipe that is fox news. Free speech is under threat more with each passing day, and once the Palantir database is complete, they are really going to go all out with their oppression.
We're just another one of those feckless authoritarian countries with weird-ass laws about not mocking or criticizing the government now. It's pathetic.
The Unholy Trinity
Up next pictures of couches
JD considers those pornography
Magas hate freedom
That's a paddlin'
not reading that. lemmy devs, please get on blocking "news" sources in the vein of sun, nypost, etc.
edit: I don't mean the mods should ban domains. I want the option to not show submissions from certain domains, like the ones I mentioned, as there's zero chance I'd ever read anything from them. a buncha reddit (and lemmy) clients have that option.
You mean implementing a functionality with which users can block posts from certain URLs to show up on their feeds?
boost for reddit (and lemmy) has the option to ignore posts from certain domains. since I have no intention ever reading anything from the domains I mentioned, I'd appreciate it in the web version.
god i wish we had a lemmy/piefed enhancement suit with the filter module :(
That's not something the admins can do. Ask the devs for that.
Stay out of that shithole. Nobody should be giving the US tourist dollars
nazis are snowflakes
It's for the best, really.
This themakes the USA look like we're a bunch of petty bitches. WTF is this bullshit, cowardly border agents. Seriously we're a kakistocracy with a bunch of elected officials and appointed officials that are thin skinned pussies.
US department of anti-tourism working hard lol
While you are all memeing fascism advances, great job all
Our leaders are NOT Snowflakes or Emotional!
Or else!