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  • skip the T470, T480 with 8xxxu cpu is the lowest you should go; the hardware is practically identical (and interchangeable!) but the CPU is a huge difference. also if you find them for cheap, there's T490 (refresh), T495 (AMD Ryzen), and T14 (newer variants of the T4xx series with Intel and AMD CPUs).

    the 12" version would be the X280, again single-channel RAM only. in the 12" space you also have Dell Latitude 7290/7200 (just the latitude series, no inspirons and friends) as well as HP Elitebook 820 (and 830) with 8xxx and newer CPUs. Elitebooks and Latitudes are Thinkpad T-series equivalents with similar build quality and features.

  • T480 can take 64 GB (2x 32 GB); no idea if more is possible. I imagine newer models could but I struggle to remember seeing 64 GB SO-DIMMs... P15 can fit four sticks so that should be possible, but them things have beefy CPUs, are rather large, and also have Nvidia graphics so dunno how low-power you can make those.

    you're kinda outside of the intersection of cheap and still capable with that spec. do make a write-up if you succeed, that sounds interesting.

  • I'm referring to semi-modern laptops you're most likely to get out of some corporation's dump of obsolete tech, but that's still usable - let's say T480 and onward. you can retrofit those with tons of RAM, cheap storage, they have capable quad-cores, etc. you can get something like a T14 Ryzen 6-core with 32 GB RAM and a 1 TB SSD in the $200 region, if you do everything yourself.

    everything before that is proper old tech, with predominantly anemic dual-cores (the ones you mention have single-channel RAM) and as such are a fun tinkering project, similar to the cyber deck projects - costs a lot of money, doesn't do much. on the other side of that fence are power-hungry haswells and friends that can't be wrangled into single-digit Watt/Hour territory however hard you tried.

    so if you get one of those for free, or close to it, and you have parts laying around, by all means - this is as close you can get to the bespoke PC build in the laptop world. but ixnay on bying a decade old laptop for work and/or education.

    edit:

    X260 vs T14, negligible size difference

  • first off, "lenovo" is not the thing to get, it's just a subset of those - thinkpads. and even then, not all of those - just the T and P series. those are the "pro" lines, durable, dependable, expandable, serviceable, and widely used. so when corporations swap out their fleet for new models, they flood the market and hence can be had for cheap. multiple generations of the same model are cross-generation compatible, so they share the same peripherals, like docks, have interchangeable parts, like keyboards, displays, etc.

    don't get used ideapads, thinkbooks, thinkpad E/L series, etc. those are either consumer-class models, have substandard features, are incompatible with each other, etc. don't get the yogas and S-suffix models, as you'll have a removed time servicing and/or upgrading those.

    the whole point of getting something used, i.e. something that was touched and rubbed and spat all over, is if it's a) in good enough shape and b) you get it for cheap. you took care of of item A when going for thinkpad T-series and you're compromising on item B if you're going through an intermediary.

    them dudes you mention are skinning you alive - 500 EUR for a T14 G1 is insane, it should be less than half of that. I also like how they're including none of the tech specs which just ups the ick factor.

  • thanks. looks easy enough to implement on other distros. this was my primary issue on why I wouldn't use it, it just seemed bonkers to me to have the game I'm playing on my other device simultaneously being blasted on the main monitor.

    the only thing missing would be runtime on/off/reconfigure, as I abhor rebooting.

  • a distribution is just an assortment of packages, it's the same linux + driver underneath. nvidia on linux is a headache. are there people who made it work? sure. is that a worthwhile waste of your time? it is not.

    get hardware that's linux supported and you'll have plenty of challenges during the transition, you don't need the additional "self destruction in..." countdown timer booming from the speakers.

    if you still wanna have at it, pop_os (however it's spelt), bazzite and nobara are some od the distros that have dedicated nvidia install images and are thusly more likely to work OOB and work better afterwards.

  • do you have a ballpark figure of potential savings in $/€ per annum? and for what hardware? I remember calculating something similar and I don't think I broke $20 in total, so promptly forgot about it.

  • that's pretty standard for laptop panels, most enterprise models (thinkpad, elitebook, etc.) ship with similar spec (6-bit, 256K colors, 200ish nits, 70ish sRGB). that's what essentially this is, salvaged laptop panel + cheap controller board + plastic. for $50, it's okay.

    there are monitors with better specs (e.g. there's a 16" one with purportedly 100% sRGB), but those are aliexpress specs so I wouldn't put too much stock in those.

  • them monitors have standard HDMI in, so anything can drive them. for power, there are USB power inputs (a powerbank is easily taped to the back), and then another cable to relay touch. so, kinda cumbersome...

    what's way more interesting to me is that they have USB Type-C and there are youtube videos showing phones attached to them with a single cable transmitting video and power and relaying back touch input! not all phones support that, e.g. flagship samsungs do, the ones that support Dex.

    question is, how does a laptop that supports DP-Alt handle that; there aren't any videos of users achieving same functionality that way. like, if a phone can power it I'm sure a laptop with 10x the battery can do as well... or?

    and then, there's the main reason why this is in "Linux"... how and does it work with wayland and friends?

  • try it with a live USB with Gnome as it is way more touch friendly. Fedora latest recommended because the live USB has a Wayland session (older versions default to X11 and a buncha touch and transition features are Wayland-only).

    as to seamless transition, no DE on linux is there yet. Gnome is way better than it was a year or two ago in that regard, but flakyness is still present, expecting the polish and reliability of Android or iPadOS isn't realistic.

  • Linux @lemmy.ml

    Cheap Portable USB Touch Monitors - any experiences?

    Anarchism @lemmy.ml

    So A Nazi Walks Into An Iron Bar: the Meyer Lansky Story

  • and then there's this:

    Judge Perlman, who was — no shit — Jewish, did not care for Nazis. This led him to reach out to one of the most powerful Jewish guys around: Meyer Lansky. Judge Perlman, as you might expect, hadn’t done Meyer any favors in the past. He had for example helped to end Prohibition, the repeal of which, while generally extremely popular, wasn’t great for the Meyer Lanskys of the world, who had been making bank off illegal booze. But when Perlman met with Meyer after the rise of the German American Bund, they ended up getting along pretty well. Perlman was like “I want you to disrupt meetings of Nazis” and Meyer was like “excellent, on it,” and Perlman was like “hang on I’m not finished” and Meyer was like “sorry” and Perlman was like “I will pay you and give you legal assistance, should anyone get arrested. The only condition is, don’t kill anyone.” With what I can only imagine to be the world’s greatest eye roll, Meyer said “Ugh fine, I won’t kill anyone. Also, I don’t want your money.”

    And then he went to work.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20170227013104/http%3A//www.anarchogeekreview.com/history/so-a-nazi-walks-into-an-iron-bar-the-meyer-lansky-story

  • tried 'em all and they all suck. it's possible there are options that work for monolingual people, but for simultaneously using 3-4 languages without annoying switching back and forth, there is no alternative.

    since android 15 you can disable network access to any app and that's how I run gboard, the only google app I have on my mobile devices.

  • re: sony changing their deal with you because someone else changed their deal with them, for any lawyer worth their salt this should be a walk in the park. since the days of roman law the principle is that your obligations with party A don't influence your obligations towards party B.

    sony is free to change the deal for future users, but the deal you made with sony is/should be the same as the day it was made.

    enter regulation capture and doing away with even the pretense of rule of law. everything that follows is of their own making.

  • Android @lemmy.world

    ADB push large folder eats up all RAM