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It feels a bit weird to see lemm.ee users posting as if their accounts aren't going to be dead in less than a month.
Edit: Sorry to lemm.ee users if this is how you found out, but this is real: https://lemm.ee/post/65824884
You'll need to join another instance to keep posting: https://join-lemmy.org/instances
You have until June 30th, 2025, so you have 19 days.
For .ee users still deciding on an instance to jump to, I chose .zip because it’s managed similarly:
Others moved to piefed.social.
Join us! Join the .zip!
lemm.ee in to lemmy.zip 😤
Hi!
yah me too
So what's the difference between that and .world? Maybe I'm not looking hard enough, but I don't see any "about us" pages for these Lemmy servers
Scroll down to the bottom of both instances' home pages using the default lemmy UI. You'll see the version of lemmy they use. You'll also see a link labeled as Legal, which contains most of the instance's policies. The Instances link will show you what instances they are federated and defederated with. The modlog can also give you some insight on what's happening on the instance. Combine that with all the other information on their sidebars and you'll get a rough idea of how different they are managed.
It also helps if you've been on lemmy for a while because you would've directly experienced or witnessed any issues or controversies those instances have been involved with.
Be seeing you soon,
Thanks to the lemm.ee admins O7
I genuinely cannot express the depths of my sorrow.
I understand the decision and hold no ill will towards the admin team, I just think lemm.ee was exactly everything I wanted from an instance and am truly sad to not only lose the account history being associated with me, but also the most neutral of the instances.
It was my first Lemmy love.
You never forget your first
For those looking where to head, here's where I picked.
Now don't get me wrong, I am not hype about moving from a great instance, but I feel this has been a great demonstration of why the federation is a good idea. All in all, migrating has been a fairly smooth experience, and most communities are either on other places or are moving fairly structured. Previously, closure of services or enshitification has caused me to spend weeks to months hunting for new places to read. This has been a great experience in most ways, and I think I can live happily jumping from instance to instance like this for a few years until I give up and set up my own.
Also, old content won't be gone. It'll still be around. Hell, people can still even reply to stuff. Inactive lemm.ee communities won't have new comments propagate to instances past where the original commenter is from, but still!
lemm.ee be real. your instance is fucked.
onto the next one.
but that's the beauty of the fediverse.. you can't stop us all.
one for all, all for one
Can you transfer your account to a different instance yet?
Partially, at least not what I use regularly. The account settings has a system for exporting settings, communities and block lists. You cant really retroactively move comments and posts to have been made by another user, but making a post on both the old and new users claiming eachother should propagate to other instances and be archived correctly.
I hope they find a good new home.
I don't know what most of the instances are about, but this one had a clever name and I don't believe is federated with Hexbear. So here I am.
It’s powered by renewables which is cool :)
I bounced over to Lemmy.zip
Sticking around to the last day. Love you mods. Still haven't picked an instance. Not sure if there's another instance run like lemm.ee
Thinking dbzero, lemmy.zip, or shitjustworks for now
Im a .ee refugee on shitjustworks , its just not the same.. and i joinee few months ago
It will never be the same again :(
The user interface with SLRPNK is good, if you're still looking. I joined it just before kbin died and it's done a pretty good job filling the hole reddit left, better than kbin anyway.
I tried to get the hang of blahaj.zone while SLRPNK was down recently and just couldn't with how follow people/profile centric it is, or how awkward it was finding posts I'm interested in. I liked the cat widget though, reminded me of that ancient Felix browser add on.
Idk I'm on lemmy.world and it seems fine? I think it's just the default for most people since it was one of the earliest if not the first instance, would have to look it up.
The .world TDL makes it sound universal and it didn't get a reputation as THE place for Mao cultists or whatever like .ml did. So lemmy.world isn't the center of the lemmyverse but it is in the middle.
Dang. Thank you for posting this; most informative shitpost ever! (I missed the official announcement.)
o7, your instance had a good run
My first instance shut down permanently within days of my signing up. I believe it had sometime remotely doing with Russia suddenly deciding to invade Ukraine.
It really gave me that full cyberpunk experience.
My first instance also shut down pretty quickly after I started using it, but not for major conflict reasons. I'll get the cyberpunk experience some other time I guess.. 😔
Life's a piece of shit
When you look at it
Life's a laugh and death's a joke, it's true
You'll see it's all a show
Keep 'em laughin' as you go
Just remember that the last laugh is on you
And
Always look on the bright side of life
Always look on the right side of life
::Cheery whistling intensifies::
the posts and comments will still live in other instances, but yeah, they should be looking for another one
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Oh wait
F yeah
So long.
And thanks for all the fish.
I just moved/transferred over from sh.itjust.works from lemm.ee. I'm super sad to see it go. :(
Does anyone know how I could save off any of my comments or posts? I know that they’ll still be accessible from other instance they federated to, but it’d be hard to search them all out.
Ok, any advice where we should move?
I'm on SDF for its no-defederation policy and because SDF outside of Lemmy has a proven track record of public service and longevity. Like SDF is much older than I am. Occasionally there are hiccups and the SDF team is a bit slow to respond, but otherwise it's been a good time. And the people here seem pretty chill too.
For my needs it's the best one. But you might want something with a curated feed, a particular political orientation, a smaller or less crowded instance, or something else.
https://join-lemmy.org/instances
the advice i've heard is pick one that isn't too big but not too small either. spend some time looking at the local communities to see if they align with what you want. .zip is focused on gaming and tech which is me. others are politics heavy. some are widely defederated, which may be the only thing that really matters-- you don't want one that everyone can't stand (.ml, etc)
Feddit.org it is.
I went with sopuli.xyz. People are friendly and the instance is stable.
I don't love their decision to defederate hexbear, but otherwise I like this instance.
Not to say I don't understand their reasoning for defederating, because I do, I just prefer as little defeds as possible aside from corporate influence (fuck threads)
I moved to lemmy.world
No real reason tbh
If you are into solar punk slrpnk.net has been amazing for me. Due to some weird timing with the admin being out of town when the servers went down they're down right now for a bit, so I'm not sure when they'll be back up and running. But the current situation is a hiccup, not a consistent issue. I love the server, and if anything, the community reaction to the admin being unable to fix this for a few weeks has made me love it even more.
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It's a good run.
I've started the process of moving my communities and stuff, but I plan on continuing to post on .ee until it goes down. Btw, is there an easy way to check which instances a Lemmy/piefed instance is defederated from?
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I have already moved to another instance and I was pretty new on Lemmy as a whole. I think I created my account about a month ago.
Wait can I post?
I don't know if you can. May you post?
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o7
there are also some who use the platform to attack others, stir up conflict, or actively try to undermine the project. Admins are volunteers who deal with the latter group on a constant basis, this takes a mental toll.
While I respect their decision I feel like these people will just move on to other instances to do the same thing.
I don't know all the details but it smells a bit "tolerant of the intolerant" and that these people should have been shown the door before it got to the point of shutting down (other reasons aside - they're all valid)
The bad actors probably will move. But the problem is 99% of instance admins are volunteers and do it because they want to. It’s much harder to deal with that shit when it’s a labor of love and you’re not getting paid.
Most were “shown the door” as you mentioned but like spam, it’s a tsunami that’s hard to deal with on a large scale.
Absolutely, but these problems are common to all the instances. Maybe I interpreted it wrong, it sounded like they were directly engaging the bad actors over management of the platform, and doing that rather than just quietly banning them and moving on.
And to be clear I'm all for open collaboration and taking feedback, but I've seen this occur for Lemmy apps where loud and overbearing voices try and dominate the conversation to the benefit of noone, until Devs either stop responding or shut things down.
Regardless, it's sad to lose an instance and I hope the admins find something rewarding to invest in without having to deal with the internet's worst members.
🥲
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Reminder that while it's not Lemmy, you can see the same stuff and more if you join Mbin. The power of the Fediverse is that there are lots of ways to do things, important for situations like this.
Ironically, I haven't looked into the current situation with .io lately, so I might be doing the same thing eventually. But being such a huge domain, there might be some adjustment to avoid dropping so many websites.
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What happens if I don't change ?
You won't be able to log in, post, comment, etc., with this account. Basically, the website lemm.ee is going to be gone forever. Lemm.ee is how you do stuff in the Fediverse. The rest of the Fediverse will still be up, and the instances you interacted with will have copies of your posts and comments, but your account will otherwise be dead.
So you probably do want to change instances.
we welcome everyone.
we're kind of that open-minded server (and country).
where the internet reigns free, since the dawn of existence.
I think you will simply not be able to log in.
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I'm an absolute noob when it comes to tech and I don't even know what instance I am on and how this matters to be honest.
I don't even know what instance I am on.
You are on Lemm.ee. Unfortunately, this is the instance this post is about.
and how this matters to be honest.
In about 17 days, you will no longer be able to login with your lemm.ee account. You should sign up for an account on any other instance. Examples include lemmy.sdf.org (the one I'm on) or any of the sites listed here: https://join-lemmy.org/instances
Lemmy (and PieFed and mBin, but I'm just going to talk about Lemmy for simplicity) attempts to provide an experience inspired by Reddit, but not controlled exclusively by one party. Loosely speaking, where Reddit is only one website and the whole social network belongs solely to Reddit, the social network spanned by Lemmy is actually a bunch of smaller websites that talk to each other. If the Reddit website goes down, the whole social network is down. If a Lemmy instance goes down, only that little part of network goes down.
Unfortunately, the admins of your instance have politely posted that your instance is going down on June 30th. This applies to you and anyone whose username ends in @lemm.ee, but it does not apply to (for example) me because I am not a user on your instance. (I am on lemmy.sdf.org, which you can infer from my full username @PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org, which ends with @lemmy.sdf.org.)
Which instance you pick depends on what you want to see, what kind of administration you want, your political beliefs and how important they are, and who you want to be allowed to talk to. For my use case, I use SDF Lemmy because we don't defederate (roughly, cut off communication) from anyone, even people who unambiguously deserve to be cut off. Furthermore, the people here are pretty chill. And SDF.org has a history of public service literally much older than I am, so SDF Lemmy will probably be around for a while.
Occasionally SDF Lemmy is out for like 24 hours and the SDF.org admins are a bit slow to respond, but that's fine for me. But also, SDF is a pretty big instance now. In order to not concentrate too much power in the hands of SDF (or anyone else), you should probably choose a less crowded instance.
I know that I need to migrate, nevertheless thank you for making sure I know. What I meant with
How this matters
Is that honestly I don't see how I am connected to the instance to begin with. I'm trying to find a comparison that expresses what I feel but I fail to find a good one. Like a browser choice? No, there are differences in using firefox vs chrome. Like an email provider? Nah, also a huge difference. Like a remote control? I have come across weirdly designed remote controls though.
But the instance - I have no connection to it whatsoever. It is just a random thing that provides me access to (all instances of) lemmy. I'm not sure I could care less about it.
Maybe the closest I can come up with is the difference between a gmail.account ending in .com or in .de .
But again, maybe I am missing something important here. I'm really tech illiterate and it is not the area I have an innate grasp at. (I used to drop that I have no idea what a router is, how tf the internet works (there are cables at the bottom of the ocean?!) or how code is even doing stuff. The problem is that I always end up with an inbox of people thinking they will be the one to make me understand.)
Consider switching to PieFed, it has many nice features Lemmy doesn't
Intersteller for ios supports piefed kinda now, still buggy for notifications but piefeds a good move too
Lemmy needs an announcement system, bad.
Where admins can show up in user notifications. And where users can subscribe to get notices (like for software updates fron devs).
I've mentioned this many times in relation to Lemmy developers posting announcements for upgrades to a community just assuming it will stay in the Top posts long enough for every admin to see.
If users finding out their instance is closing via a SP isn't enough to prove the need, I don't know what is.
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Any thoughts on reddthat.com?
am i going to lose all my posts and comments
It's been real.
Wait wait wait , what happened
https://lemm.ee/post/65824884
Lemme.ee got so toxic that the admins bailed. Nobody in the community supported the leads or stepped up to replace them. Whomever was fronting the money to keep the instance hosted got fed up and decided to shut it down.
Now there's a big ceremonial cry-in for an instance that ate itself with dysfunction, because... idfk.
That's not what happened. It wasn't any more or less toxic than any other place on the internet, the lead admin just got burnt out. He asked the community for volunteers to moderate the instance and apparently nobody showed up.
So he's shutting down the instance next month. It wasn't dysfunctional or toxic, he just sacrificed a lot and AFAIK never even broke even with server costs.
Most positive Lemmy user
Talk about over exaggeration lol. Lemm.ee was fine and well run, I enjoyed it more than being on .world. They just didn’t have enough people willing to be admins.
Tbh I thought it was low-hanging fruit and I wondered why no one was picking it.