‘Harrowing': Video shows Worcester police hold girl's face on ground during ICE operation
Video: Worcester police hold teen girl down during ICE operation – NBC Boston
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Just another day where bullies and abusers get to terrorize the populace with full throated approval from the state
Don't worry folks, US police have a stellar reputation for rooting out brutality and injustice in their ranks. I'm quite sure appropriate action will be taken.
I don't need the /s tag here, right?
Notice how the video is focused on the neighbors watching....but they blur it to 'protect' the identity of the ice thugs.
And somehow they're gonna go home thinking they're heros.
"Just following orders." - ICE (and Nazis)
And they wonder why travel to the US is down
No they don't. They don't even pretend not to know.
“There will be times when the struggle seems impossible. I know this already. Alone, unsure, dwarfed by the scale of the enemy.
Remember this.
Freedom is a pure idea. It occurs spontaneously and without instruction. Random acts of insurrection are occurring constantly throughout the galaxy. There are whole armies, battalions that have no idea that they've already enlisted in the cause. Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.
And then remember this. The Imperial need for control is so desperate because it is so unnatural.
Tyranny requires constant effort. It breaks, it leaks. Authority is brittle. Oppression is the mask of fear. Remember that.
And know this, the day will come when all these skirmishes and battles, these moments of defiance will have flooded the banks of the Empire's authority and then there will be one too many. One single thing will break the siege.
Remember this.
Try.”
The Trail of Political Consciousness (Nemik’s Manifesto)
By Karis Nemik from Star Wars’ Andor Season 1
Running out of real world examples where resistance has any effect on stopping or even slowing the glacial slide of fascism so we have to dig into fantasy to find hope and inspiration. We're so fucking screwed.
Dude, this is not how humans work.
Humans need stories
“There is a wound that won't heal at the center of the galaxy.
There is a darkness reaching like rust into everything around us.
We let it grow, and now it's here. It's here and it’s not visiting anymore. It wants to stay.
The Empire is a disease that thrives in darkness. It is never more alive than when we sleep.
It's easy for the dead to tell you to fight, and maybe it's true, maybe fighting is useless. Perhaps it's too late.
But I'll tell you this… If I could do it again, I'd wake up early
and be fighting these bastards…
from the start.
Fight the Empire!"
By Maarva Andor from Star Wars’ Andor Season 1
5 6 7 8 Amerikkka is a fascist state
If you don't have a gun yet, now might be the time.
What we really need is the gangs to step in and protect thier territory from ICE. They have networks of people who can hide them if they get identified. And good luck to the agents who come and try to arrest them. The cycle will just build and build.
Hadn't really considered gangs... I wonder if this will drive them into some unity. If they got over the whole red vs blue bullshit or racial focus, their combined force would be one to be reckoned with.
...fucking sad when literal gang violence is being floated as a plausible solution to active tyranny.
In my limited experience of just living in bad neighborhoods, most gangs I've encountered are just small groups of kids that sell drugs, rob, burglarize, fight, and occasionally kill kids in other small groups. From talking to older people that were in gangs (well, they still consider themselves to be in a gang, but the gang doesn't functionally exist or do anything), things were much different in the 80s and 90s. Guessing it differs depending on the city though (there aren't really "territories" in my city; drugs are sold through apps/text).
What happens when you starting dropping ICE agents?
Genuinely curious, as an outsider it seems your right to bare arms to protect again the government is ridiculous. Your government has warships, fighter jets, and drones.
Seems at best you could maybe do some insurgent warfare, but I don’t think you’ll be overthrowing the government with guns.
Taliban, Vietcong have both beaten the US goverment in the past and recently. Despite not having access to the same level of weapons and other tech.
Vietnam
You're question shows exactly why the west (especially the US) has such an issue doing anything in the modern day. Everyone asks "what can I do" not "what can we do."
What happens the first time? You're probably killed, and if not you're caught and sentenced as if it's illegal (even though it probably isn't in most states if they don't identify and don't present a warrant). Maybe you can kill them and ghost if you're incredibly lucky, and disappear somewhere.
What happens the hundredth time people do this? They start getting scared of acting and more people are encouraged to take action. Maybe they start coming down even harder, but that will just drive people to even more action. If that happens then they eventually lose. They have to maintain authority. Authority is not the default state. If they lose it then they're done.
The goal wouldn't be to overthrow the government - like you said, a .38 special isn't going to do shit against an air strike; but it could do shit against like 1 or 2 ICE agents who are trying to violate your human rights. The goal would be to incapacitate them so that you can disappear and get to safety. Worse case scenario the attempt at self defense fails and you get killed on the spot; you're looking at getting sent to a literal death camp anyway for complying, so might as well try to take a few pop shots and gtfo before they have a chance to get your ID.
The escalation from there, as a few others have mentioned, is guerrilla warfare. We're still no match for the full force of the government, but if the government wants to go full Nazi, the people can go ahead and go full Inglorious Basterds. I wouldn't expect anyone to just bend over and accept their death at the hands of fascism. Fight back.
It may not be as much as we like or hope for, but 100% of the military is not going to comply if things come to that.
Asymmetric warfare never intends to aim for a conventional peer to peer engagement with a far superior force. We're not talking about pitched open battles here. We're not talking about occupying territory or capturing objectives.
"What happens" is probably a lot of propaganda from the fascist media outlets. They'll view it as a justification for increased political violence on their part. Probably as a pretext for martial law and the suspension or posse comitatus. Full blown military occupation.
If that happens, we'll effectively be in a state of open civil war anyway. So it won't really matter.
Pulling a gun in this situation will absolutely, without a doubt, get you killed. If that's the way you want to go, that's your decision, but it's not going to do anything to protect you.
And if you don't pull a gun in this situation it will absolutely, without a doubt, get you killed. If that's the way you want to go, that's your decision, but compliance is not going to do anything to protect you.
...and if those are the options, might as well drop a Nazi or two on your way out.
Well if they get rid of habeas corpus then you may as well consider yourself dead the moment they try to "arrest you". Never go to a second location if you want to remain whole.
That is horrifying. It's all horrifying. I always thought that with everything online that we'd all look at each other and do something, but from this to genocide, it feels like we're stuck in "thoughts and prayers" mode when we should be at "torches and pitchforks." They're human beings, we're human beings. We only get one life. Why the fuck are we doing this to each other.
Because commenting and sharing on social media feels like you're doing something without having to actually do anything.
I don't know, I feel like writing online and telling the traitors to eat shit can be a therapeutic release that keeps you engaged and allows some emotional distance without full dissociation
The worst thing you could do is check out and accept defeat. Or go to a protest without your face covered bc they're using Clearview to track people
Given the media is being silenced it's one of the few tools of communication we have left that hasn't been entirely hijacked by people screaming I <3 free speech and free markets while suppressing both bc they know that in reality they would never survive a press or market they couldn't control and manipulate
The state has a monopoly on violence and none of the people running the state have our best interests in mind or heart. They've sold out to money. From squares to strip malls.
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I'm 40+ so, if I'm lucky, I've got about the same to amount of years ahead of me. It's an interesting, slightly uncomfortable, feeling; knowing I will never trust the US ever again. If an american told me water is wet, I'd double check with just about anyone else before continuing a conversation. Very stupid people.
Well I take some issue with that. What's happening isn't because everyone's dumber than you are, it's happening because powerful people have systematically worked at making this happen. They fuck our schools, they remove our history, they do everything they can to keep this shitshow rolling.
Meanwhile, everyone's just trying to fuckin survive. Someone told people they'd bring the cost of eggs down. That's how politicians work everywhere. They lie to get in power. Here, there, everywhere.
Now, as a blue-collar anarchist I do my best. But most of these people never got critical thinking skills in the first place, and that's the problem.
Education is failing people, and the Right is making sure of it. You'll have this problem wherever you are, given enough time, if you're not careful.
But what do I know, I'm just a hillbilly.
I'll add to this that a lot of people calling others stupid, will then turn around and pray to Jebus and believe all the bullshit in their religious text.
Stupidty and complacency come in many flavors.
40+ here too, but in the US.
It’s wild. I’m sure it will come as no surprise that I grew up in a society that assumed America was the center of the universe and that everywhere else on earth was foreign and strange and may as well not exist because we’re the best at everything anyway.
It’s very strange and distressing to see how that image of our country has changed for me and for others our age.
Since there's been some good replies to this I shall now add my oh so very important reply to the pile.
Water isn't actually wet, water wets things. Is a cup filled with water wet? No, the cup is dry and contains water. Are freshly washed dishes wet? Yeah, they have some water on them that hasn't dried off yet.
"Is water wet", "Is (breakfast) cereal a soup" and "Are hotdogs a sandwich" are some of my favorite stupid nonsense arguments to have. It's entirely pointless but there is an actual right answer going by the definitions
That's.. one way to totally miss the point. But you do you.
until the philosophy which holds one race superior and another inferior is finally and permanently discredited and abandoned everywhere is war
(ed-sp)
Never gonna happen sadly, both prejudice and war are part of human nature
They're really not. I'd recommend reading the Dawn if Everything by anthropologist David Graeber and Archeologist David We grow, which reveals that our true 'human nature' is actually egalitarianism and cooperation, and that our current modes of existence are an oddly different blip on the timeline of humanity.
"When officers arrived on scene, they observed a chaotic scene with several federal agents from various agencies attempting to take a female into custody," the department said in a news release. "Federal agents had placed this female under arrest and were attempting to leave in a vehicle. The crowd was unruly, and several people were putting their hands on federal agents and Worcester officers in an attempt to keep the vehicle and the arrestee from leaving. Worcester officers attempted to deescalate the situation and keep everyone safe."
The thing we need to remember is that we outnumber them. Of course, our rising up will trigger the fascist escalation they desire. We'll see how that goes, I guess?
It takes ten average people to flip a car. 4 strong guys...
Video on linked site has Unskippable 40 30 second ad
And people complain about zero click internet when their business model of shoving ads everywhere is what plays a part in killing thier click through
zero click internet
I went to look this up and DuckDuckGo automatically provided an AI-generated answer at the top of the page, before all the search results. I'm not quite sure what the word is for the odd way I'm feeling now. Probably some obscure term that only exists in another language.
I recommend ad-blockers (ublock origin), I haven't seen ads in like years on my devices.
AdNauseum here. Might as well poison their ad revenue while we're at it.
Fatass mfers with more gut exposed than covered by their plate carriers. I really don't get how these idiots think they are the good guys.
These people are recruited from /pol/
While this comment may be in jest, it is scarily not far from the truth.
They read the SS and NKVD manuals,
This is how you radicalize people
This shit is dystopian, but I have to admit that I'm mildly relieved to see these videos of crowds forming to yell at the thugs and get in their way. It gives me some small amount of hope.
One can only hope.
Water it was water, or possibly Dunkin’s iced coffee water, but I bet it came out of a fucking drinking container. Deadly weapon my ass.
So, in MA, if you throw literally anything or any substance at anyone, Assault and Battery with a Dangerous Weapon is the default charge, because state law defines “Dangerous Weapon” as “literally anything that’s not a part of your own body”.
If you're gonna get arrested at least throw acid at these fucking cowards.