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‘Harrowing': Video shows Worcester police hold girl's face on ground during ICE operation

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I'm 40+ so, if I'm lucky, I've got about the same to amount of years ahead of me. It's an interesting, slightly uncomfortable, feeling; knowing I will never trust the US ever again. If an american told me water is wet, I'd double check with just about anyone else before continuing a conversation. Very stupid people.

Fatass mfers with more gut exposed than covered by their plate carriers. I really don't get how these idiots think they are the good guys.

Video on linked site has Unskippable 40 30 second ad
- And people complain about zero click internet when their business model of shoving ads everywhere is what plays a part in killing thier click through
  
  zero click internet
  I went to look this up and DuckDuckGo automatically provided an AI-generated answer at the top of the page, before all the search results. I'm not quite sure what the word is for the odd way I'm feeling now. Probably some obscure term that only exists in another language.

“There will be times when the struggle seems impossible. I know this already. Alone, unsure, dwarfed by the scale of the enemy. Remember this. Freedom is a pure idea. It occurs spontaneously and without instruction. Random acts of insurrection are occurring constantly throughout the galaxy. There are whole armies, battalions that have no idea that they've already enlisted in the cause. Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward. And then remember this. The Imperial need for control is so desperate because it is so unnatural. Tyranny requires constant effort. It breaks, it leaks. Authority is brittle. Oppression is the mask of fear. Remember that. And know this, the day will come when all these skirmishes and battles, these moments of defiance will have flooded the banks of the Empire's authority and then there will be one too many. One single thing will break the siege. Remember this. Try.”
The Trail of Political Consciousness (Nemik’s Manifesto)
By Karis Nemik from Star Wars’ Andor Season 1
- Running out of real world examples where resistance has any effect on stopping or even slowing the glacial slide of fascism so we have to dig into fantasy to find hope and inspiration. We're so fucking screwed.
  
  Dude, this is not how humans work.
  Humans need stories
  https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7379714/
  
  “There is a wound that won't heal at the center of the galaxy. There is a darkness reaching like rust into everything around us. We let it grow, and now it's here. It's here and it’s not visiting anymore. It wants to stay. The Empire is a disease that thrives in darkness. It is never more alive than when we sleep. It's easy for the dead to tell you to fight, and maybe it's true, maybe fighting is useless. Perhaps it's too late. But I'll tell you this… If I could do it again, I'd wake up early and be fighting these bastards… from the start. Fight the Empire!"
  By Maarva Andor from Star Wars’ Andor Season 1

Notice how the video is focused on the neighbors watching....but they blur it to 'protect' the identity of the ice thugs.

This is how you radicalize people
- This shit is dystopian, but I have to admit that I'm mildly relieved to see these videos of crowds forming to yell at the thugs and get in their way. It gives me some small amount of hope.
- One can only hope.

Today’s America is the first twenty minutes of Half-Life 2.
- Pick up the can
  
  I wonder how much this joke ages us?
  Like what is the oldest age the average person wouldn't get this joke without the context of the comment you replied to.

If you don't have a gun yet, now might be the time.
- Pulling a gun in this situation will absolutely, without a doubt, get you killed. If that's the way you want to go, that's your decision, but it's not going to do anything to protect you.
  
  And if you don't pull a gun in this situation it will absolutely, without a doubt, get you killed. If that's the way you want to go, that's your decision, but compliance is not going to do anything to protect you.
  ...and if those are the options, might as well drop a Nazi or two on your way out.
  
  Well if they get rid of habeas corpus then you may as well consider yourself dead the moment they try to "arrest you". Never go to a second location if you want to remain whole.
- What we really need is the gangs to step in and protect thier territory from ICE. They have networks of people who can hide them if they get identified. And good luck to the agents who come and try to arrest them. The cycle will just build and build.
  
  Hadn't really considered gangs... I wonder if this will drive them into some unity. If they got over the whole red vs blue bullshit or racial focus, their combined force would be one to be reckoned with.
  ...fucking sad when literal gang violence is being floated as a plausible solution to active tyranny.
- What happens when you starting dropping ICE agents?
  Genuinely curious, as an outsider it seems your right to bare arms to protect again the government is ridiculous. Your government has warships, fighter jets, and drones.
  Seems at best you could maybe do some insurgent warfare, but I don’t think you’ll be overthrowing the government with guns.
  
  You're question shows exactly why the west (especially the US) has such an issue doing anything in the modern day. Everyone asks "what can I do" not "what can we do."
  What happens the first time? You're probably killed, and if not you're caught and sentenced as if it's illegal (even though it probably isn't in most states if they don't identify and don't present a warrant). Maybe you can kill them and ghost if you're incredibly lucky, and disappear somewhere.
  What happens the hundredth time people do this? They start getting scared of acting and more people are encouraged to take action. Maybe they start coming down even harder, but that will just drive people to even more action. If that happens then they eventually lose. They have to maintain authority. Authority is not the default state. If they lose it then they're done.
  
  The goal wouldn't be to overthrow the government - like you said, a .38 special isn't going to do shit against an air strike; but it could do shit against like 1 or 2 ICE agents who are trying to violate your human rights. The goal would be to incapacitate them so that you can disappear and get to safety. Worse case scenario the attempt at self defense fails and you get killed on the spot; you're looking at getting sent to a literal death camp anyway for complying, so might as well try to take a few pop shots and gtfo before they have a chance to get your ID.
  The escalation from there, as a few others have mentioned, is guerrilla warfare. We're still no match for the full force of the government, but if the government wants to go full Nazi, the people can go ahead and go full Inglorious Basterds. I wouldn't expect anyone to just bend over and accept their death at the hands of fascism. Fight back.
  
  Taliban, Vietcong have both beaten the US goverment in the past and recently. Despite not having access to the same level of weapons and other tech.
  
  It may not be as much as we like or hope for, but 100% of the military is not going to comply if things come to that.
  
  Vietnam

Just another day where bullies and abusers get to terrorize the populace with full throated approval from the state

And they wonder why travel to the US is down
- No they don't. They don't even pretend not to know.

Don't worry folks, US police have a stellar reputation for rooting out brutality and injustice in their ranks. I'm quite sure appropriate action will be taken.
 
 
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