Child grooming

puts on helmet alright time to check these comments
- I posted it 4 hours ago now and thankfully, it only seems like we have a couple of bigots. That's pretty good for the internet.
  
  Lemmy always seems to be pretty good. Nice being on a social media platform where people can have compassion for others.
  
  My take is: Guess Lemmy just hasn't stretched out far enough.
- I love that I refreshed the front page to find this meme at the top with "-2 new comments" but at least the whole thread hasn't been nuked.
  Nice work mods, let's keep hateful comments to a minimum while still encouraging healthy discussion with people that might honestly not know better.
  
  Lol. My only regret is not taking a screenshot of that one guy getting destroyed by like 20 different research papers
  
  I think it's sad that all replies (especially positive, helpful ones) are automatically deleted too. They shouldn't be.
- They're mostly pretty funny.

When the gay marriage vote came to Australia, my household got very political. I voted yes, but both of my dads voted no.
- I never understood the gays who voted no on a referendum back in the 2000s and justified it with some religious and heteronormative bs like "marriage is from religion by religion" and "we're the outliers, so we shouldn't make people conform to us". Like, how self-hating and backstabbing can you be. If you don't want it, you don't have to have it but let others realize their dreams at nobody's expense.
  
  I do agree that marriage is a religious thing and I wouldn't care at all, but getting married brings a lot of benefits.
  So its not like gay people want to "realize their dreams" but we want the same benefits that straight people have.
  If religious people dont want to accept gay people, then benefits shouldn't be given based on religious acts like marriage.
- Imagine thinking gay people being allowed to exist is too far.
  
  Poor me!
  Have you come out as intolerant to your mum?
  
  Yeah, that's why we tolerate you, until you do something other than complain. I want to use your logic. I'm tired of being forced to tolerate you so you should fuck off.
  
  Diddums

Why is everyone complaining about child grooming lately? I get my dog groomed once a month and the first couple days of her smelling nice is the best. Do you all just like dirty kids?
Hopefully unnecessary but, /s
- I have a teenager- so it's not that I like that she's dirty, it's just that she's at that age.
- How else am I supposed to get my kid looking like a million dollar man? Good looks come with good grooming! Especially the blonde flowing locks!

I firmly believe some children need grooming. Comb their hair once in a while!
- It's like pulling teeth to get my daughter to brush her hair. And she has beautiful curly hair. It gets all matted in the back. She's 13. Shouldn't she care?
  
  If you check for "silk spray" for Yorkshire terriers it's great for painless matt and tangle extractions, and Yorkie fur is quite similar to human hair.
  A small tip for those rare events when the brush gets used, and will help with speed and pain

When I was in middle school pretty much every teacher in the school was in one big lesbian menage a trois. Everyone knew it, and they would all cycle through being roommates with each other. Last I checked, there wasn't an unusual amount of gay alumni. On an unrelated note, we also learned important skills like critical thinking and understanding the world we lived in, turns out that mattered quite a bit more in my life so far.
- That sounds absolutely hilarious. The closest I ever got to that was spotting a middle school teacher years later at a Pride festival. He did not remember me and I was too shy to go talk to him. I had the hunch that he was gay but it would've meant a lot to me if he were out during that time. Oh well, he was a great teacher regardless.
  
  It was an open secret that my high school French teacher was gay. He pretty much couldn't hide it. He would have made MAGA boomer gaydars go off. But at the time, you would get fired if you were openly gay and a teacher in Indiana. It was so fucking stupid. Everyone just turned a blind eye to it. He clearly loved his job and wanted to do it for the rest of his life, but how sad that he had to hide a key part of himself just to do it. I'm not sure if he's still teaching- I don't even remember his name over two decades later- but if he is, I hope he's happily married to his then incredibly hot boyfriend (I'm not gay but he was so hot, I might consider it). I only knew about the boyfriend after graduating and running into them a couple of years later. I guess unlucky in his job but extremely lucky in love.

Is this how ~~conservatives~~ homophobes try to play the victim here? "Oh we're in the minority now, let's pretend we need to come out"?
- No, I think the joke is that just talking about your life is considered coming out or even "proselytizing", if you're not heterosexual.

I'd always say "I sit there and listen to my teachers talk about their sex life" as a joke when someone asked me how my day was back then, I didn't think it'd turn into reality.

As an aside, when I was a rather innocent pre teen, I was into hair metal of the 1980s, and liked the Motley Crue song Girls, Girls, Girls. I didn't know what menage a trois meant though.....so I asked my French teacher.
One of my dumbest moments but honestly I really didn't know and it seemed reasonable to ask the person who knew French.
- My school had a Latin teacher who read erotic Latin poetry to her senior class. I didn't have her, but friends did.
  
  Oh man, I was in a kids choir when I was a kid and we performed at Christian churches often. I was raised Catholic and didn't have access to a Bible routinely, we you bet I'd be reading Song of Solomon every chance I got. That is the horniest shit ever.

- Until the picture is more clear, society should be mindful (not hysterical, mind you, just careful) about how to talk to children about this.
  Yes, we definitely should only teach children about proper, true, God-sanctioned heterosexual relationships until we know how to talk to children about two men holding hands.

- For some people.
  "Most common" =/= "default"
- Gross. Why are you talking about "default sexuality" with kids?
- Idk, my male dog sure likes to hump the boy dogs for fun.
  
  "alright Charlie, are you a furry little boy or a furry little girl?"
  woof
- The point of this post is to point out that the argument of "teachers are corrupting kids into being gay by talking about it and having books with gay people". The fact that most people are straight doesn't factor into it at all, unless you mean that everybody is born straight, in which case you're just wrong. Btw a useful thought experiment in general is to swap "gay" with left-handed. Would you ever say that being right-handed is the "default handedness"? Would you care if a teacher mentions being left-handed?
  
  If you have a pretty loose definition of default, it's easy to conclude that right-handedness is the default handedness. I wouldn't be surprised if OP agreed with that idea.
- default because of centuries of religion and culture ensuring anything other than heterosexuality was punished
  
  Default because reproduction
- And being composed of hydrogen and helium is the default for 99.9% of the entire universe, so why are you creating exceptions for carbon?
  
  You gotta watch out for carbon. I hear it's grooming xenon.
- Honestly as long as you don't care if people are gay or not you're fine
  
  I don't know if I'm gay or bi or anything, but I had a relationship once with another man, no sexual stuff just dating
- That's true
  But it also has nothing to do with this. It's as good as saying someone is evil because the sky is blue.
- Everyone who reads this needs to block this piece of shit

- So what is the issue then?
  
  I won't hold my breath for a response to this.
  
  You'd have to ask the OP. But some LGBT issues in schools include sexually explicit books and sexually explicit performances in public schools.
- If you weren't lying, you would have told us what the "real issue" is
- Yeah mate. You keep telling yourself that.
- According to American conservatives that is very much the issue.
- I suppose that's why the Stop WOKE act doesn't make any exceptions?
- I don't think what you're saying is true. I know someone who very actively doesn't want mentioning of gay people to kids. For context, he's foreign-born, isn't otherwise conservative, and has been a US citizen for probably longer than most people on Lemmy have been alive.
  I mention this anecdote because it's part of many anecdotes and the vast majority of people in his community have viewpoints that I've heard and are much more extreme than his.
- Go on...
- And the person recording shouting it over what they’re actually saying just to make this video doesn’t ring any alarm bells for you? Really?