If you dig into Oblivion Remastered's files you can find almost the whole original game like a set of dinosaur bones
If you dig into Oblivion Remastered's files you can find almost the whole original game like a set of dinosaur bones
Well that's not too surprising, when the original game's installer files are only about 5-6 GB in total, and the remaster requires 120GB of space. They probably have a couple copies of Fallout in there too just for bloat.
I mean I'm pretty sure the massive game sizes we see today are almost exclusively caused by high res textures and assets.
Bethesda was notorious back in the day for using uncompressed textures. Not lossless textures, just fully uncompressed bitmaps. One of the first mods after every game release just compressed and dynamically decompressed these to get massive improvements in load times and memory management.
I look forward to the day that game companies start making hi res textures an optional part of the installation. I don't need all of the textures used for 4k when I'm running in 1440p High. They are just wasted space on the hard drive.
For the user interface they can easily inform the user which options are restricted if they don't install the textures.
More importantly it was limited by physical media back then.
Like, DVD level physical media, there was a hard limit for everyone, so there was a huge focus on optimization to save space
Now that almost all games are downloaded, they can be as huge as they want. So optimizing for file size is often the first place that gets cut. You might not keep a huge game installed, but it's rare to avoid buying a game due to file size.
That's what they want you to think. In reality they just stopped trying to be efficient with storage because of Internet delivery vs DVD size limits. They probably didn't even try middle-out compression!
Which sucks for anyone that doesn't have a 8GB+ GPU. I'm fine with 1024x1024 textures, I don't need or want higher res textures, I want good framerates
The game is using two engines. One, the original "brain" of Oblivion. Two, the Unreal Engine 5. The "brain" is doing all of the calculations and whatnot behind the veil, the veil is Unreal Engine 5 with all the pretty effects and textures.
Mods are already over 200 on Nexus for a game that just came out two days ago.
As an Oblivion fan, this seems like a buy for me. The only mods I'd need are some of the better vampire mods and maybe a Bag of Holding mod like in the original. Other than that, it looks pretty good!
Yeah this sounds kinda like the same deal as with Fable Anniversary years ago. It also used the original game files wrapped up in the Unreal engine and modding was possible with the original tools.
I don't even know how they achieved that ! Do they directly reuse engine code in UE5 CPP? There must have been some porting yo do right ?
Usually graphics are a one-way street, you can run all the game logic headless and then punt data over to graphics and forget it since the rendering doesn't affect gameplay
I think that's how the PS4 version of Shadow of the Colossus worked, they recompiled the PS2 code and just replaced the graphics layer with a newer graphics engine
As an Oblivion fan, this seems like a buy for me.
Well you're paying €55 for a graphical update.
That's extremely overpriced.
If it was just facelifted and made to run on and detect newer hardware and peripherals, I'd agree, but the remaster offers a lot of new flavor to the tune of voice acting, animations, rebalancing of the leveling mechanics, and fixes to ancient bugs like paintbrushes and quests breaking mid-way. Typically not a fan of remasters, but they usually don't have this much actual work done. Even some of the world objects have been fixed and moved around like the randomly placed giant rocks no longer serrating the gold road.
They did also change some fundamental things about the game beyond just making it look pretty. Movement feels way smoother, plus you can sprint now. Combat is also smoother, with shit actually comboing together fluidly and also not having the stupidly slow Stealth attack animations (stealth and non stealth attack animations are identical now).
I still wouldn't pay full price for it. Only reason I have it at all is because it's on GamePass.
However I will say that they succeeded in giving me the same exact experience as playing the original for the first time. "This looks amazing... Too bad it runs like shit 😩" (and honestly, KCD2 looks better while also running better).
Arrrrr we though?
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I've heard if you look deep enough into the files, you can find a full copy of Skyrim.
'Hey, you, You're finally awake'
spinning intensifies because I'm running a vanilla version of the original
lol, Todd sold you Oblivion again
This is no Skyrim anniversary edition lol
Selling Skyrim yet agan would be too much. Todd said that they need to go for something less obvious this time.
I've noticed that while playing, actors move exactly the same way that they used to, and the same or very similar bugs will appear.
They even left massively obvious bugs intact, like how the magic store in the Imperial City is permanently locked after getting a certain DLC, because the DLC changes the door’s ownership so the shopkeeper can’t unlock it. The given fix is to stealthily break into the shop with lock picks, (which will get you into trouble with the guards if caught), pickpocket the key from the shopkeeper, (which will get you into trouble with the guards if caught), then use that key to open the front door from now on. Because using the key isn’t considered illegal as long as the store is open. So even though the door is still permanently locked, you can just use the key.
Same! While playing the intro, one of the guards just slid to the right as the emperor power walked through them. I had a good laugh.
It straight up uses a mix of UE5 and the original GameBryo. Right down to bugs still unfixed in the current version of the OG oblivion. The ESM and ESP files are even 1:1 identical.
It made me wonder if I could load up a mod that just adds a new NPC made with the original editor but in the new game. I just don't remember how, exactly, to manually load the .esp file via adding a line to one of the files.
Have you seen any of the ads? Are the graphics that well updated?
The game looks way better than the original. I've only seen a stream of it, but literally everything is improved, at least visually. Better meshes and much better lighting everywhere.
thanks. I did not even think to check out some streams. going to as the gameplay and mechanics are great so new graphics would be huge. I have not finished any of their games since like one because there is so much to do.
That's because the old game is still there, it's internally running the same engine under the hood but with Unreal Engine 5 used for its graphics & rendering.
On a scale from 1 to 10, how likely does this make it that old Oblivion mods will eventually become compatible with the remaster?
I read a Steam review that in the EULA it says there's anticheat and no modding allowed. Not sure how that will play out.
Edit: It looks like 'no modding' is a standard cover your own ass policy, for Bethesda. Modding is good to go, they don't really care.
Gameplay mods are fine, graphics mods need rewriting.
I swear I read that a lot of them already are, just need some minor tweaking if any.
With a 10 being “they’re already supported”? Like an 8 or a 9. Some of the graphical mods obviously won’t work, but the gameplay mods often just need some minor tweaking to point to updated file names. The biggest gameplay changes are primarily with the leveling system, so anything that deals with that will need to be overhauled.
Depends on the mod maker but 8-10
That doesn't make any sense.
Edit: you can downvote me all you want. That's not how game engines work.
Frontend UE5 Backend Gamebyro
If you have the logic to move a square on the screen it'll work in UE5,Unity etc you just need to map it
It's the same thing we saw with Halo CE Anniversary on the Xbox 360.
Edit:
Just so we're clear, that edit wasn't there when I made this comment. Bro edited in a double-down even after getting real-world examples that are over thirteen years old. It takes a crazy kind of confidence to stare reality in the face and say, "Nah, I don't like that, so it doesn't exist."
Halo CEA used the original Blam Engine as a backend and Sabre's engine in the frontend, it just made the new rendering engine toggleable. Sonic Colors Ultimate did the same thing, too: the backend is the Hedgehog engine and the frontend is Godot.
Which part doesn't make sense?
Please enlighten us, o experienced one
That is, in fact, how game engines work, if the game logic and renderer are decoupled. Usually they're not too tightly coupled in the first place, but Unreal is specifically designed to be used in more than just games.
I was flabbergasted too but it's real
Tell that to the Halo Anniversary games.
Which published games have you worked on, and what would preclude those from using separate engines for gameplay and graphics?