3d ago

US fires Greenland military base chief for 'undermining' JD Vance

www.bbc.com

The commander of the base wrote, "I do not presume to understand current politics, but what I do know is the concerns of the US administration discussed by Vice-President Vance on Friday are not reflective of Pituffik Space Base." in an email and was thus dismissed. In dismissing her, the Pentagon stated this reason. "Actions [that] undermine the chain of command or to subvert President [Donald] Trump's agenda will not be tolerated at the Department of Defense."

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JD Vance exudes weakness.
The patron saint of yes-men.
- He is a real La-Z-Boy.
  
  I heard he recently hit it off with a chaise lahegaounge
  Edit: I’m so, so torn on whether to put those last two words into an imagegen
  
  More like a human footrest
- Who’s the snowflake now?
- Only thing good about these traitors is I'll have something to celebrate in the future.
- I mean, if you're the Vice President, it's kind of hard to put much pressure on the President. The Vice President has virtually no power or formal responsibilities other than what the President chooses to delegate to him. I mean, if he annoys the President, the President can very readily leave him with nothing other than a bit of prestige and a tie-breaking vote in the Senate.
  Though the President can't actually remove the Vice President, no matter how unhappy with him he is.
  
  There's supportive & then there is mewling sycophant.
  Vance is the latter.
  
  So what you're saying is that he's possibly the one person in the country that can tell the fascist fartknocker the truth and not be removed from office? Poor guy, I'm glad he's doing the right thing instead.
  
  Alternatively, the President can't actually remove the Vice President, no matter how unhappy with him he is.

undermining
Prior to the base commander commenting and destroying his effort, Vance was on totally firm ground and had pretty much convinced the entire population of Greenland.
- lol
- As firm as a used sofa bed maybe
  
  Stop it, I'm plushing
- Wow that is an absolutely fascinating fanfic they’ve come up with

Fragile Egos running the military great. Thousands may die but JD vance's feelings shall be protected at any cost. The party of "fuck your feelings" everyone.

She is a patriot. Col Susannah Meyers deserves a medal, and I'm sure she would do 10,000x better as VP than the jerk we have now.
Vance seems smart, and obviously he married outside his "race" so somewhat open-minded. Which means he is acting out of pure conscienceless ambition. IMO worse than Trump, who is an evil idiot.
- Maybe he married outside of his race because she's a hot piece of ass and out of his league and he didn't put much more consideration into it than that?
  
  If he was actually bothered by race Vance wouldn't find her attractive.
- he even has a degree in philosophy…
  and trump isn’t an idiot, he just plays the idiot so idiots will vote for him… just like george dubya bush…
  i mean, he’s not very smart or as smart as he thinks he is, but he’s not as stupid as he seems
  
  The way he talks, looks, acts. I'm pretty sure he's an idiot.
  
  Maybe that claim would hold water if there was any evidence at all that Trump wasn't a brain damaged idiot spiraling into senility. It stops being pretending when every single appearance, every interview, every second of contact, every policy enacted, every opinion presented, and every decision made are all exactly what a complete idiot would do. He's not playing 4D Chess, he doesn't have some secret master plan, he's a pants shitting moron who's hateful rhetoric and willingness to punch down appealed to the low end of the bell curve and got them excited enough to vote.
  
  Yeah gotta disagree with you there. Trump is senile and baseline average at best.
  
  He's a certified idiot

I don't think it's a coincidence that they are a woman.
- Pshaw! What's a woman doing in space? Get rid of her! Also, let's get rid of those Sigourney Weaver DEI alien movies from the Library of Congress as well!
  
  They let women IN the library?
  
  Thank you! Finally someone who's actually talking sense for once.

Replacing base commanders is very indicative of a potential military coup
- May you live in interesting times
  
  Too fucking interesting if you ask me
  
  x squeeze me rudeeee :)

-.-
Chain-of-command means orders come from your immediate superior doesn't it? Adding "Or to Subvert President Trump's agenda" pretty much nullifies that and by default makes our military on par with Russia's. Good weapons do fuck and all when not used as intended.
Putin must be laughing his ass off at how effectively he's destroying the US military without firing a single shot at it.
- Putin must be laughing his ass off at how effectively he's destroying the US military without firing a single shot at it.
  Yeah this. Very much.
  Without Trump Putin would've been finished, but since Trumputler, Russia is still an actual danger to the world.
  Russian disinfo is just so fking prevalent and idiots fall for it. And most people are idiots.
  
  Trump would be like this regardless of Putin
- That's not what chain of command means. It simply establishes the hierarchy. Commands can be given by anyone who outranks you, or holds a billet that comes with higher authority. Trump and Vance at the top of that chain and can issue legal orders to literally anyone in the US military.
  
  Not that the rule of law matters, but the VP is not in the military chain of command. There is no vice commander-in-chief. It goes pres then his Chiefs of Staff/Generals.
  Of course they could just lean on the undermining trumps agenda of stripping Greenland of its resources, but that's not why the base was there. Or I guess that is why it's there now.....idk.
  
  They can issue orders. Not all are legal. But since they replaced the JAGs, this might be closer to reality.
  
  The concept of chain of command also implies that higher rank alone does not entitle a higher-ranking service member to give commands to anyone of lower rank.
- Putin must be laughing his ass off at how effectively he’s destroying the US military without firing a single shot at it.
  It's one for the books to be sure. Also there are a huge portion of Americans cheering it on because they're too stupid to know better.
- We don't need Putin as an excuse for Trump's (and his lap dogs') behavior. This bunch would do this no matter what.
  
  They wouldn't be in the fucking white house without Putin.

Another scapegoat in an otherwise ill conceived plan.
- Plan?
  
  Concepts of one.
  
  project 2025. 180 day plan to turn america into a complete shithole.
  
  In the same way me shouting "lets fucking go!" right before giving myself what will be a new scar is a plan.

Surely this won’t do anything to undermine an already plummeting morale.
- Gotta have that rock bottom morale for the upcoming war with former allies.....

Because a military operated solely by loyal incompetents has worked out so well for Russia.

Loyalty to trump takes precedence to the truth.

can't Greenland ask to evacuate that American base? its clear the US won't try to help Greenland without having them paying a hefty price anyway
- I think the base is more for US benefit than Greenland.
  
  Right but its their country so they should be able to clear the base if they desire

JD Vance is the biggest fucking pussy I have ever seen
- He has neither the depth nor the warmth.
  His loveseat does, though.
- Correction, the biggest pussy you’ve seen so far I this pitiful Administration.

Did she say thank you?
- Not enough!

https://youtu.be/Z7XRX1UBooQ?list=PLlwzDYw6zp2D6DxLR8zGz1i_7764DYSVQ
Old BBC series, 'I, Claudius.' History of the first five Roman Emperors, with Brian Blessed as Augustus and Patrick Stewart as an ambitious general.
Relevant because of Caligula. He didn't fall because he was a violent tyrant. He fell because he lost the support of the military.
Hopefully, Trump will miss that idea...
- Hey, thanks. I've gotta give that a watch.
  
  It's a really amazing show. Zero budget, but they make you think you're watching a spectacle.
- And he lost political support. He was attacking the senate.
  In România the military turned on Nicolae Ceaușescu and his security forces.

If the snowflake starts to melt his mascara might run.

View 1: you should follow chain of command as a unified command is necessary for military operations. Any personnel going against the direction is counted as rogue. (benefits military)
View 2: Public Relations of the country you are in requires the ability to deescalate situations and unwind tension, thereby requiring the communication of separation. (benefits local units and local community)
View 3: moral obligations of one's self pushes you to do the right thing. (benefits self and possibly local unit)
In my opinion, I believe this was an action of view 2 and also happened to include view 3. But that's just like... My opinion.
- It's literally against the UCMJ to take part in political action as a uniformed member of the military. To me it sounds like she was trying to "cya" and of course, this administration has such thin skin that they couldn't have someone do that.
  https://www.military.com/benefits/military-legal-matters/active-duty-military-participate-protests-make-political-statements.html
  
  Fragging is gonna make a comeback in a time of "peace."

*Behold the Underminer! I am always beneath you, but nothing is beneath me! I hereby declare war on peace and happiness! Soon, all will tremble before me! *

And what agenda might that be?
- I imagine it's "Expand the base whether Denmark agrees or not."
  
  Hi Greenland, here's our new lease contract for our base, we want to expand our footprint to cover 836,000 sq mi.
  
  While destabilizing the US economy

Not relevant to the headline, but why the fuck would greenland want independence? Unless they are excited for digging up their entire country (which I would assume they don't want as they like the landscape as it is afaik), they are completely reliant on danish funding.
- Not to mention completely defenseless at the worst possible time.

Ohhhh nooo, anyway. Who is getting fired next? US firings became regular since trump came into the office.

Hero. Just trying to make everything work like it's supposed to.
The Most Incompetent Administration In History can say what it wants to (and will) and the pithed chuds who make up the voting base will eat it all up, but anyone with any sense can see what's going on.
- Only if they watch/listen to more than Fox News and Newsmax and OAN. Here’s the fun thing… they don’t.

Honestly, I feel like we’re one press conference away from someone calling artificial intelligence “Adobe Illustrator.

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