Banned from Europe@Feddit.Org for calling out Zionist German pro-genocide propaganda.

As almost always happens with this kind of thing, you were not banned for posting the story, you were banned for being an asshole. Your post of the story is still up, and look at all the places it's being crossposted.
Put it in a different light: Country X puts someone to death because they kissed a person of the same gender in public or something. Everyone on Lemmy thinks that's incredibly fucked up, they start posting stories about it.
And then someone comes in and starts yelling about how that country and its authorities are backwards medieval idiots, and attacking anyone who tries to say anything different. Then they get banned. Which gives them a handy opening to start yelling in all directions about how the moderators are anti-queer horrible people who are trying to censor the truth about how repressive this particular government is.
No one said "violent racist idiots." Everyone said this is a bad thing. I have no idea the truth about the original issue, if the people were involved in property damage or not (and honestly I don't care either way, they shouldn't have been deported before a conviction and probably not after one even if so). But you were banned for being a twat about it and calling other people in the thread "pro-genocide" and "defending fascism" and "racist idiots."
I suspect some people do this on purpose, so they can proceed to pitch a fit about it here, and feed into the narrative that anyone at all on Lemmy is pro-genocide, so they can paint themselves as the rare voices in the wilderness who are anti-genocide and generally sow mudslinging among people to no purpose. YDI. Don't be a twat in the comments and you won't have these types of issues.
- 100% this and we see this happening all the time!
  “I was banned by biased asshole mods!”
  Then you look at their comment history and it’s rife with vitriol and antagonism.
  I’m in an argument with a few of those trolls in another thread. Is there a social media platform out there that has private modlogs? Because I’d wager that’s where these people are from. They’re not used to having their shit shown.
  
  I think it's on purpose.
  There is a whole art form to creating a consensus view of reality that doesn't exist. One of the most important parts is repetition, from multiple apparently-different sources, with a ton of emotional weight behind it.
  One of the constant through-lines from some small selected set of the users here is that lemmy.world, feddit.org, all the "main" instances are full of Zionists who will delete any criticism of Israel (and, also, any criticism of the Democratic Party). It's laughable nonsense, but they say it so loudly and so consistently that it's honestly kind of hard to resist it making it into the consciousness to some extent. I honestly don't know why they do this so consistently. But it's definitely noticeable once you start looking for it.
  I had no particular idea whether this particular user was going to overlap with any "to save the world let's not vote for Kamala Harris" posting, just because they were pursuing some nonsense in this particular separate sense. But oh look...
  https://ponder.cat/u/geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml?page=1&sort=Controversial&view=Overview
  Literally the post one tick above this one, is urging people to save Gaza by letting Donald Trump win. Got it. Perfect sense. Wonder why.
  
  Your post of the story is still up
  The post they linked to is deleted, as is everything they ever posted on feddit.org, indicating that their instance ban ("reason: antisemitism") was done with the "remove content" checkbox checked.
- My opinion of this issue is separate, so I'll post a comment with my feelings on it, but I wanted to ask you- is there anywhere in English that talks about this property damage? I tried looking everywhere but the only reporting in English I'm seeing is leaving out this alleged property damage, and I tried machine translating the few articles I could identify (I'm no longer fluent in German, which is frankly tragic, and I don't know how to get it back) all had the same angle as the article posted and no mention of damages.
  
  I have no idea. And, like I said, to me it's not relevant.
  If the German government can conveniently overlook that Israel is killing people by the hundreds of thousands when they send weapons, then I can conveniently overlook any amount of property damage or "threatening employees" by people trying to stop that first thing. In fact I would say it is okay to downplay that second thing. I have no idea whether it even happened or not, but even if it did (and even if it had been proven, which I think no one is saying it was), it would be okay to me.
  I'm just saying you can make that argument without also needing to be an asshole to people in the comments.
  
  I don't have time to translate right now but here's an article from Deutsche Welle that goes into some detail on the (alleged) property damage. Essentially it's tied in with the attempted occupation of the FU university in Berlin. Hope that helps!
- And then someone comes in and starts yelling about how that country and its authorities are backwards medieval idiots,
  Your argument doesn't stack up.
  Authorities of a country putting someone to death because they kissed someone of the same gender would be precisely backward medieval idiots. And so would be anyone supporting this punishment

Love the person is ignoring the one asking if just being accused should be an appropriate level for being deported

PTB but it was inflammatory. Truth often is.
There are many many people who wish your words were not factual, and the ban is not surprising to me

I’d say BPR. I think you’re largely correct on the facts but you need to be able to express them without insulting a large portion of the community you’re in, or you can expect to be banned. I understand you probably think this is a uniquely horrible circumstance that rises above such ideas of decorum but that’s obviously not how people who disagree with you will see it.
So, I’d advise you to think harder before commenting because you’ll be a lot more effective in getting the facts out there if you do.
- I would only be insulting a large portion of a community if they identify with the pro-genocide propaganda. Which they seem to do, and that is the real problem.
  Many people complain about bans from .ml for sinophobia. Occasionally I agree that the moderators are tad too trigger happy on liberals.
  However let's imagine that my comment was about Russia. And I was "debunking Russian propaganda" on ml, would people still say that I should have also cared more about the feelings of the users which might feel insulted by a plain truth?
  
  This is going a bit off topic but you obviously haven’t looked very much at the bannings on ML if you think this is in any way comparable.
  A frank discussion of certain facts around China or its leadership is automatically labeled “sinophobia” on .ml, and immediately results in an instance-wide banned. I was banned for referring to historical China (before the revolution even) as an empire. Explain how that’s sinophobic if you think it is.
  You called people racist idiots and Nazis for supporting certain politicians. That goes beyond just stating the facts.
  I personally don’t usually support bannings and think comment removal is a better option in most cases. But if you got banned for calling most Russians racist idiots and Nazis then I don’t think that would be too problematic.
  China would be a better comparison though since they are materially supporting mass-murder but not directly doing it (at least not outside their borders). Russia is more akin to Israel in this example.
  
  You're funny, .ml bans everyone, even communists, if they don't support their Stalinist authoritarian version of it. You can be as friendly and toned down as you want, they'll still ban you.
  You picked the wrong comparison my guy.

You actually not complied to the rules oft the community. Just because on .ml everyone who doesn't fully support hamas gets labeled as Nazi and then banned for rule 1 (racism) doesn't mean you can expect to call obvious abusive bullshit on other instances and get away with it.
And just to be clear: Israel doing horrific warcrimes and need to be stopped. German weapons supplies are a disgraces 21% for the AfD are fucking bad.
We "german lemmings" are with you on that, we just don't accept your lie talk about being "pro-genocide" if we don't fully support kidnappings of civilians from the other religious group in the conflict. We are sick of idiots accusing us of being Nazis while some of us live in fear that actual Nazis beat us up when we walk out of the door because we are on the spectrum, Jews, Muslims, have long hair, got outed as communists, or even being a supporter of the fkin green party.
- The rule to... not call out the German government for their complicity in genocide? I didn't find it. It must be one of those unspoken german rules.
  You actually not complied to the rules oft the community. Just because on .ml everyone who doesn’t fully support hamas gets labeled as Nazi and then banned for rule 1 (racism) doesn’t mean you can expect to call obvious abusive bullshit on other instances and get away with it.
  Yes. You are racist and Fascist if you do not support armed resistance of people in a concentration camp against their oppressor.
  This is "do you support the Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto fighting back against the Nazis" and if the answer is no then you go straight to the Nazi bin. You expect .ml is going to wait 30 years for people to have "always been against this" like Nazi Germany, instead of simply "being against this" in the present while a people are being exterminated.
  The only reason you cannot accept this is because Germany literally makes it illegal to not be racist (support the Palestinian resistance) and nobody around you dares not being racist.
  But the actual Nazis who make extremist statements such as Israel has the right to kill Palestinian civilians are the ones running Nazi Germany.
  
  See thats exactly the flamebait.
  There is a war between two religious fundamentalist parties.
  One of them is clearly worse than the other, opressing them and doing horrible warcrimes.
  One can be against the horrifying killing, bombing and starving of civilians by a right wing religious fundamentalist government while STILL be against the kidnappig and shooting of civilians by a religious fundamentalist organization.
  You making up a false dilemma by throwing everyone who has a more complex view on things than "this one religious fundamentalist group is in the right with everything and the other one needs to be completely annihilated" Into the the Nazi bin.
  This is clearly not argumentation in good faith.
  Sure one side is clearly worse, but that doesn't make the other one untouchable or not to be criticized.
  criticizing the scewed media in Germany, actively going on anti-israel demonstrations, demanding from your government to stop sending weapons and instead initiate tariffs on this far right warcrime nation BUT STILL not defending the shooting of civilians on a music festival or kidnapping of them, is a valid position, it may not be your position, but calling those position "pro-genocide" or "clearly Nazis/fascists" is just plainly wrong.
  You can be activly fighting against genocide WHILE STILL not fighting for a radical fundamentalist religious group.
  You can fight for the people, their rights, their lives while not supporting their ideology.
  You making a "either you are 100% with us, or you are a facist" argument is either plain stupid or ragebait and surley neither dialectic nor materialistic.

I'm not surprised. There's a post over there semi-ironically thanking Trump for truly shattering the global image of American superiority.
Meanwhile, the very same EU is falling prey to the exact same kind of demagogues we did. And no one but a few even brought that up.
- Right wing populism isn’t just an America problem for sure.
  
  You spelled "fascism" wrong.

From reading your reaction to people who are politely disagreeing with you, YDI.
- People calling an article a propagandist lie are not "politely disagreeing".
  My reactions were incredibly charitable compared to how far-right extremist the other commenters were, who simply made stuff up to defend deporting people protesting a genocide.
  
  It’s not about what they said. It’s about how they said what they said. They were not breaking the rules of the community. YOU did because you can’t conduct yourself like an adult when you get upset by the opinions of others. You showed your ass- therefore….
  YDI.

YDI.
I'm not usually one to be a tone police bastard, but (hope I'm tagging this right) @LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net was right.
Rule #3 on Europe@feddit.org- "Be kind to each other, and argue in good faith. Don’t post direct insults nor disrespectful and condescending comments. Don’t troll nor incite hatred. Don’t look for novel argumentation strategies at Wikipedia’s List of fallacies." Emphasis mine. "No the German authorities are the racist idiots. And so is anyone agreeing with the German authorities." That's pretty obviously insulting.
I really want to stress that my judgement here is independent of the point you were making. No one provoked you. You can read the rules. You could easily have made your point without insulting someone, but you chose to be insulting. And don't get me wrong, you can take satisfaction in doing that, if you're doing it on purpose and you feel it's called for, but you still would've deserved it for breaking the rules of that space.
- Rule 3 taken literally means you can't call nazis out as the shit stains of humanity that they are. Sometimes rules are too simplistic and tone policing is a really, really common one.
  
  So like I said, there can be satisfaction in breaking the rules. But you're still going to get the obvious repercussions.
  If I called a nazi a nazi and get punished for it, I'd wear that shit proud, not bitch about it. And things being the rules doesn't make them moral. But you can still deserve the reaction you got, even if you were right in everything you did, and when that happens, you should be thrilled, not complaining.
  If I called a nazi a nazi and got punished for it, I wouldn't be posted to YPTB, because that's not power tripping. I'd be posting it everywhere else that there are nazis, and don't you want to come call one of them a nazi and collect your trophy ban?

YDI

Perhaps you were banned for supporting a shitty terrorist state
- This person doesn't support Pissreal or the US
- Terrorism is when you resist being genocided, and the more family members you've lost to bombs or the apartheid regime the more terrorist you are
- Did someone scratch your anus? You are dripping fascism all over your liberal pants
- Perhaps you were banned for supporting a shitty terrorist state
  Eh? He didn't support neither Israel nor Russia.
- One government's terrorist is always a community's freedom fighter/people's liberation army/resistance. I vote people over oppressors, health over harm, actions over words and whoever is responsible for the least amount of destroyed lives. In terms of current death toll numbers, IDF:Hamas stands at 54:1.