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  • Historically psych research has ranged from wildly pro-sex, treat a handjob like a handshake to no one should ever have sex other than to procreate. Saying ‘the research is very clear’ is just wrong. In general, the number of topics that can be considered very clear in psychological research can be counted on one hand.

    Personally I don’t think any of it is meaningful outside societal context. In a very conservative culture, having casual sex could lead to judgements from third parties that significantly impact one’s life. Hard to say that’s the fault of casual sex more than it is a case of violating a taboo like any other. I don’t know of anywhere this is currently the case, but I think we could imagine another ‘sexually liberated’ culture where not participating in casual sex could lead to suspicion among others pretty plausibly too.

  • Breaking News: Iraqi Muslim Doctor Marxist-Leninist has a different view on casual sex than Anglosphere Internet Marxist-Leninists; Anglosphere Internet Marxist-Leninists are compelled to opine that he's wrong.

    • I'm not quite sure how to take this framing. I can't speak for others, but the main problem I had was the claim that "the research is absolutely clear on this" (it seems to be mixed) and the use of vague generalizing language to say why and how it's a problem. My criticism primarily had the west and its research in mind, and patriarchal thinking generally, which is a problem in many countries including places like the US. If there is research in other cultures and languages that tells a much more clear picture about "casual sex", I will happily consider it, but am only fluent in the one language sadly, so it would be difficult to find such things, much less understand them.

      Basically, I'm not sure what him being, as you say, an Iraqi Muslim Doctor Marxist-Leninist, has to do with this. He even made a point of saying it's not about "prudeness" and that there are "secular arguments for general social and sexual modesty." Between that and the focus on what "research" says, he appears to be arguing within the context of secular science, not within a religious basis, so isn't it only natural for his claim to be addressed in that context?

  • Thanks, but I don't need a youtuber saying what is and isn't "psychologically destructive" for me. I've had plenty of casual encounters and I actually think that if most of my serious relationships were actually just casual encounters I would be a lot better off "mentally".

    So, I'd say the opposite. Committed relationships can be terrifying, destructive and can change you entirely as a person as that is what they demand if you want to improve yourself for the other person and all of that could still be for nothing other than yourself when the other person decides they're tired/bored of you. At least with a casual encounter, there isn't anything expected on the table nor anything emotional at least for me.

    Does the West need a better hook-up culture? Yes. Otherwise though, if he is offering "personal opinions" based upon constantly changing psych research then I think I'll just tuck it in the "Youtuber Takes" pocket.

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