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Gaza medics killed by Israel found handcuffed and shot in mass grave

www.middleeasteye.net

Israeli forces have been accused of executing handcuffed Palestinian medics before burying them in a mass grave underneath their crushed ambulances in southern Gaza's Rafah.

Fifteen humanitarian workers went missing last week after responding to a distress call from civilians being attacked by Israeli forces.

The workers include eight paramedics from the Palestine Red Crescent Society (PRCS), six members of the Palestinian Civil Defence search-and-rescue teams, and one UN staff member.

They were found over the weekend in a mass grave with at least around 20 multiple gunshots in each one of them, according to Mahmoud Basal, spokesperson for the Palestinian Civil Defence in Gaza.

At least one of them had their legs bound, another was decapitated and a third topless, he added.

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I'm not against Jews, I'm against Israel. It appears that the lesson they learned from the Nazis is how to commit atrocities.
- It's almost as if the lesson should be that Jews aren't unique and are just like any other people. And if you put any group of people into an explicit ethnostate, that group of people is going to turn into Nazis.
  
  Most countries around the world are based on ethnicity/national identity. Yet they all don't manage to turn into Nazis. It's not the state type its the choice made by its people.
  
  Feels like most places have had their genocide era
- You cannot expect atrocities to lead to anything good. We see it in gaza right now, the ongoing genocide will breed more terrorists and more conflicts.
  
  which is part of the plan. without constant conflict the likes of Bibi Hitleryahu could never obtain power.
- none of his conflict is about Judaism or Islam. it's about colonialism. jews who were expelled during the inquisition found a safe haven in lands of muslims. they lived side by side for decades.
  the unfortunately intense antisemitism you may find among Muslim populations is because of what happened to Palestine in the name of zionism.
  the way Israel insists that they represent jews and Judaism breeds antisemitism. which is what they want by the way. jews experiencing antisemitism around the world gives them more potential colonizing power.
  they also want you to think this is about religion because it becomes easy to dismiss and both-sides the issue and distract from the fact that it is about ethnic cleansing and genocide.
- Isn’t it far* older than that? Didn’t Israel commit the main genocide in the Old Testament? Religious people tell me that’s a historical document.
  To me, this same holy war has been raging for millennia and I really wish we’d outgrow it.
  
  I don't think it's fair to tie history that far back to current people. Maybe it's context for what's going on now, idk, but it's wrong to point to it as some sort of gotcha.
  There's more than enough damning history just looking back one week.
And Republicans keep trying to convince us the Israeli government is the good guys. >.>
- Please don't act like it's just republicans.
  
  crazy that everyone came after Rashida Talib for speaking the truth that most US politicians are more loyal to israel than their constituents.
  the thing is we'll never move the republican party off their pro-israel spot except through weaponizing anti-semitism, which will do no one any good. in our two party political system our best bet is to cordon republicans away from power and to shift democrats left through quite frankly desperate maneuvers. additiunally, we must develop parallel structures of power to protect ourselves. these parrallel structures of power is what the establishment fears most, which is why they're so quick to label us terrorists
  
  This started under Biden, and centrist democrats gleefully shouted down progressives sounding the alarm like the good little fascism apologists that US centrists are. It is now much worse under the Trump regime, but you are 1000% right.
  
  Please don’t act like it’s just USAmericans.
  
  When I worked in a restaurant - and this was near 20 years ago, at the tail end they had us sign some condition of employment and that added a clause that we weren’t to boycott Israel as employees. A restaurant in America.
  So, how many of you work for companies that have this exact thing? I quit working for others over twelve years so because of shit like this. If you work for a major corp 99% of you likely signed an anti Israel boycott in your hiring forms and you don’t even know it.
  Let that simmer a bit then figure out what you need to do because these companies can’t run without employees. They need employees more than customers.
- And the Democrat leader Schumer says his job is to keep the left pro-Israel, there is no redeemable politician in power here. If we had real justice they would all be hanged for supporting genocide.
  
  That's because Schumer is a Nazi collaborator.
- The Democrats lost the election because they refused to condemn Israel. For once, this is actually a "both sides" problem.
  
  People keep saying this and I apologise if this comes across as callous, but this is a very online opinion. I’ve seen no evidence whatsoever that the Palestinian genocide would even move the needle for the average American voter let alone be enough to sway the election. While I’m sure it didn’t help, the Democrats lost because they promised more of the same neoliberalism at home when many Americans desperately wanted a departure from the status quo and because there’s a depressing amount of Americans that are just straight up bigots, not because of their stance on Gaza.
for a country that loves to talk about their right to exist, they sure as fuck try their best to disprove they have that right at all. nazi germany didn't have a right to exist.
- Condoning or condemning atrocities has rarely been about the race, nationality, religion, etc. of who was harming or being harmed. Whoever is in power at the time decides what is condoned or condemned.
  20th century Jews were at the mercy of a seemingly-unstoppable German force. Now that Israel are largely in charge of the immediate region, they set the tone, forgetting what had been done to their ancestors.
  Americans weep and gnash teeth over foreign atrocities while standing on the blood of Indigenous people their powerful ancestors were perfectly fine murdering just to gain land.
  African tribes slaughtered each other long before becoming victims of Euro/American slavery.
  I’m not justifying any of it. Just saying it’s the ebb and flow of who is in power at the time that determines who gets to decide what’s condoned or condemned, not the race, etc. of the aggressor or victim. Over centuries and millennia, many/most nations and peoples will take turns giving and receiving atrocities. All you need is an evil leader and just enough supporters to make it seem “ok enough”.
  
  Theres an active ongoing genocide happening and you are talking about ebb and flow? What the actual fuck. Fuck off. Use your words and voice to speak out against it not defend it you privileged fucking asshole.
Jesus fucking christ this is some evil shit.
Fucking hell..... I mean how many blatant war crimes does Israel need to commit before countries start condemning them. Goddammit, seriously
- It straight up feels like we are living in, like, the world of Final Fantasy 7. They could literally be using the souls of the dead to generate electricity as it literally kills the planet both physically and metaphysically, but only like 7 people are gonna actually be pissed and try to stop it.
- The US is the behind this 100% we don't even have a ballot option against it
  
  We give them the weapons to do it, then drive aid trucks through their territory in a token effort to help the Gazans, it’s goddamn shameful.
  
  Of course, they are world champions at it.
- At this point there is none. They have been doing shit like this for decades. Israel was founded by terrorists and on terrorism.
- Money money money... Money!
They opened fire on French forces too in Lebanon.
It’s getting fucking spicy and real weird that European Jewish refugees are building their own Auschwitz next door.
Behold, the apex of humanity. God help us.
I'll never get enough of saying it: this is happening with the help and support of your government
- How do you know what country we're in?
  Are all nations helping Israel? That seems unlikely.
  
  name one that isn't or that isn't part of an alliance doing it
AP telling the same story. Looked like Reuters was, as well, at a quick glance. So I guess this is confirmed.
What a terrible thing.
around 20 multiple gunshots in each one of them [...] one of them had their legs bound, another was decapitated
Oh that's not good
The Israeli military said in an initial statement that trucks were struck because they were being used by Hamas and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad.
Ah thank goodness for a clear explanation
............ Fucking hell. What is wrong with Israel.
- Selfrighteousness would be the most likely answer
  
  also being whipped by right wing media into a constant level of terror to justify genocide
  
  Such a handful.
- Far right wing government, a president (PM in their case) that has multiple credible cases of corruption against him and is holding onto power desperately to try to avoid prosecution.
  Sound familiar?
Israel is literally kidnapping, raping, and assaulting civilians. by the thousands as they attempt to surrender. Beating them until they either agree they are Hamas or die, and then killing them anyway.
I get why the US government is down with that, many of our politicians are old people that love rape and genocide especially via proxy, since they can't do it themselves anymore. It's just really annoying that the same people ranting about wanting to protect women have spent the most money and time getting them tortured, raped, and killed.
But their shills in the West will make sure that if you raise your voice, depending on your legal status, you will be slandered, roughed up by police, have your degree revoked, snatched up from your family or in the middle of the street, and deported.
And they will use the charge of antisemitism as a cudgel, all the while playing into all the worst antisemitic tropes and preparing the ground for the next round of actual antisemitic violence.
Zionism hurts Palestinians first, people who stand up for humanity second, all Jews third. It's a shit ideology.
Not surprised. There's a video out there with a journalist interviewing older IDF veterans who talk about murdering Palestinian civilians and the sick bastards are smiling.
Here is some of the footage of the digging up of the bodies for those who want video evidence:
NSFL: Longer footage of excavation
utterly horrific, genocidal, warcrimes
God damn. If there's a god, just wait.
Safely presuming there isn't, these assholes gotta get found and destroyed just like people have done with former nazi commanders and stuff.
- People are foolish to think god cares. God caring is the equivalent of a child in a sand box playing with his army soldiers. Actually the child likely cares about his army men more than a god would.
  
  I intend to destroy them and the devil both if the opportunity ever arises.
By topless, do they mean no shirt? Or no torso?
- Yes?
If the IDF scum are ever held to account, the decent people of the world should next go after their own leaders for blindly supporting these atrocities and not stopping them earlier. The genocide of the Palestinians is a blight on many western so-called liberal democracies.
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eichmann_in_Jerusalem#Banality_of_evil%3Fwprov=sfla1
Condoning or condemning atrocities has rarely been about the race, nationality, religion, etc. of who was harming or being harmed. Whoever is in power at the time decides what is condoned or condemned.
20th century Jews were at the mercy of a seemingly-unstoppable German force. Now that Israel are largely in charge of the immediate region, they set the tone, forgetting what had been done to their ancestors.
Americans weep and gnash teeth over foreign atrocities while standing on the blood of Indigenous people their powerful ancestors were perfectly fine murdering just to gain land.
African tribes slaughtered each other long before becoming victims of Euro/American slavery.
I’m not justifying any of it. Just saying it’s the ebb and flow of who is in power at the time that determines who gets to decide what’s condoned or condemned, not the race, etc. of the aggressor or victim. Over centuries and millennia, many/most nations and peoples will take turns giving and receiving atrocities. All you need is an evil leader and just enough supporters to make it seem “ok enough”.
IDF is war crime organization. Just like Hamas but on the other side. Just like not all Germans were Nazi, I am sure that not all Isrealis are IDF.
- It’s not the United Russia invasion, Likud genocide, or Republican aggression.
  It’s Russian, Israeli, and American.
  That’s the stage, that’s the lens, that’s the demarcation of responsibility and blame between citizens of one country and another.
  
  Collective responsibility and punishment is mother of all war atrocities. Just like not all Palestinians are Hamas (war criminals, terrorists), I am sure that not all Isrealis are Likud/IDF. Isreal's role in this genocide is clear. Isreal as a country made terrible war crimes. But countries are not making anything, pepople do.
- Not all Jews are Israeli, and conflating the two groups only helps Israel and their propaganda. But these killings are indeed some fucked up Nazi shit.
  
  You think I dont know that? Everyone knows that. Doesn't change a thing.
  The Israelis who are enacting policy, making decisions, pulling the trigger, and burying bodies are jewish. That's why I said oxymoronic. That's the point I was making, and you know it.
  Edit: also, I didn't say all jews are nazis obviously.
- Israel is run by fascists. Most Jews are not fascists. But these fascists would love for you to conflate them with "Jews" in general so they can accuse you of antisemitism. Don't fall for it.
  
  The ones who are doing this are jewish, full stop. Small minority are zionists, obviously. My comment was simple and accurate, it's oxymoronic.
  Coincidentally, these zionists (devoutly religious) think they're "the chosen people" by god. The nazis thought something similar with all that aryan race nonsense.
  Again, it's comically oxymoronic, if it wasn't so horrifying and full of death.
- Zionists are nazis. There are plenty of Zionists that aren't jewish and plenty of Jews who aren't Zionists.
  
  Lol no, most Israelis are Zionists because the obviously support the general idea of an Israeli state despite the current fascist government.
  
  plenty of Zionists that aren't jewish
  Press x for doubt LOL. At minimum they use the religion as a tool for their genocide zionism slop. Zionism is inherently foundationally religious or religion inspired, so this argument is silly.

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