Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy said mental illness may be best treated using "faith-based approaches" as opposed to pharmaceuticals.
He gets so close-
Violent crime has risen over precisely the period we have shuttered these psychiatric institutions. And you know what? The number one psychiatric institution today is jail. It’s prison. And they don’t do a very good job. And now you then get the calls to clear the jails or to have commuting of sentences or shortening of sentences. People leave those jails in a worse psychiatric condition, often, than when they even entered.
Yes! Yes!
We can do this again learning from past mistakes without those abuses. I don’t think I want to be pumping psychiatric institutions with pharmaceuticals into people.
Seems reasonable.
Faith-based approaches – there are better ways to do this.
Oh for fuck's sake.
And, of course, the ironic thing is that Ramaswamy is a pharma bro.
That’s fucking dumb, people kill each other over religion every single day in staggering numbers. Maybe they can institute a program that has speakers from the IRA and the Taliban come in to talk about strong faith.
I cant believe grown adults believe in fairy tales, it’s absolute insanity.
This guy is an even bigger shill than Turd Cruz. He made his money in pharma, his wife is a physician. And yet here he is shilling for FaiTH BaSeD CuRE.
YOU started a pharmaceutical company. Shut the fuck up. Your face is as big as Charlie's. Seriously, there must be some sort of correlation between right-wing vitriol and small faces because holy fuck.
So now these dipshits are unironically and very seriously borrowing from the Scientology playbook…? And here I thought religion in America couldn’t get any worse.
It’s kind of like the joke “if alternative medicine worked, it would just be called medicine”.
A faith-based approach could also be called a hypothesis-based approach: the only thing that distinguishes it from a scientific approach is that it is a hypothesis that either hasn’t been tested or has failed the scientific method.
It always amuses me when people try to recommend faith or faith based healing to cure their medical or mental health problems.
How is faith based healing any different from using the placebo effect on someone by giving them a sugar pill and telling them it'll help cure their illness? Only difference I can see is you are replacing the pill with God, another placebo.
Sir you have a minority religion in this country. Do you think religion is irrelevant to this or are you hoping a bunch of Americans get shipped off to Vishnu camp when we get depressed?
You know, we have a term for alternative medicines that have been shown to have a positive effect on patient and are backed up with evidence. That term is called, medicine.
Oh, is this the insufferable a-hole trying to out-crazy Trump and still polling almost dead last?
He admits that people with mental health disabilities are just locked up in prisons and not given help (true), but then says let's bring back insane asylums and not give them medication or therapy, just let Jesus take the wheel.
To anybody who thinks this is a good idea, if Jesus could cure them of their mental afflictions, you wouldn't need the insane asylums to begin with.
What he is describing is a just prison system by another name.
"Faith-based" is the weasel word here, insert your meaning. The reductive correlation of violent crime rising as psychiatric institutions shuttered leaves out the economic context. Public healthcare isn't on the table, this is just redistributing the effects of not having proper care available for everyone and claiming it's a solution. "Let the churches deal with it instead of the prison system." Is he advocating we decriminalize and reduce sentencing? Are churches in a position to hide/harbor what the law determines to be a criminal? No talk of re-allocating police budgets.
I mean I'm not going to tell my friend with Asperger's that he should abandon his accepting church community. I blame the fact that our economic system deems him as a worthless burden, unless laws are in place that force employers to treat him with the same dignity as everyone else and accommodate him. The fact he can't access a career a "normal" person could is a huge part of the problem.
Not engaging with anymore republiQan horse-race crap. It doesn’t help, they’re obviously way past even discussing and it only serves the Murdochian Evils to talk about them.
tbh he isn't entirely wrong wrt depression and anxiety, but that mindset is dying - I literally can't have a faith based approach to mental illness because I know better.
I'm sure people who can actually put their faith in God's will and plan or whatever can find solace, that's literally what people did for thousands of years and why religion was invented, but that's not an option for me.
While it is true that medication does not fix mental illness. Huge studies came out blowing those meds out of the water. I think diet, lifestlye, and spiritual life is best way to move forward. Most ppl do not have mental illness, they have been dragged into the cult of Big Pharma
this won't be popular to the "better living through chemistry" folks on lemmy, and Reddit. except for the fact that mental health issues are at an all time high, and so are prescriptions. so no one is actually better because of them. while it is proven that people engaged in faith activities have better mental health outcomes.