Google is already pushing Web Environment Integrity into Chromium

I'll keep using Firefox and be extremely vocal about websites that won't support it. I mean that's all I can really do.

It may be the last few years of the free web because of Google. Their goals are clear.

Please switch to Firefox, another search engine and another email provider...

Don't be evil.

There's a "we told you this would happen" going on here.

If chromium didn't have a monopoly amongst browsers, they would have a much harder time pushing this through.

Imagine everyone using a browser built by an advertising company.

And this is the consequence of browser vendors relying on Chromium.

Ohnonono Well time to burn down google I guess ¯\(ツ)/¯

The Internet in the last five or so years has just been less fun and interesting to use in general. Except for anywhere I can interact with friends, I just don't really care for using corporate social media sites anymore. I've pretty much removed Google from my life except for YouTube and rarely Google Maps, and if Google tries to use this to force ads into YouTube (which I'm sure is going to be one of its uses) then I will just stop using YouTube. I will just stop patronizing any site or business that tries to implement this as a feature to stop my browser choice, OS choice, or my extension choice (which included adblock extensions). I miss the days when the Internet was less corporately controlled than it is now, and I think we need a renaissance of those days.

Fuck you Google.

this is a userbase killer right here

hey everyone a friendly reminder that alternatives exist, and just drop this shit fast and move to better alternatives. In this case firefox.

Wow they moved incredibly fast, even considering the repository was first committed to in April 2023. I wonder why the outrage only started a few days ago? There was also a discussion, started in May.

As an aside, I know we're not supposed to care about Reddit, but the lack of this news getting any attention over there is just depressing. Hell the Firefox sub hasn't had any posts in days apparently.

Could there be lawsuits over this?

Pardon my ignorance but Can someone explain what google is trying to do?

Chrome is a bag of shit anyway, easy jump

Gross.

Feels so good to see Google getting called out for this in the GitHub comments

Regulate Big Tech and be done with it.

i've been using a samsung chromebook plus since it launched until now... and it's end-of-support next month. being a typical human with low funds for new gear, i WAS considering a new chromebook of some kind. The chrome drm bullshit doesn't effect me too much as I use this mostly within the linux container, or firefox android version... however, I realize i need to take a stand and not financially support these tyrants.

so, what are my options? a pinebook running debian? are there any good netbooks out there? I don't use this thing for games or streaming media at all - mostly ssh, some browsing, etc. it's about time I take the final steps to de-goog my life.

Fuck this is trash. DRM for the web. I wish people would understand websites like kbin are not free and that if you use a website you need to pay to keep it alive. But no one wants to pay for anything on the internet, and so we have ads. Ads will for sure kill the internet.

Can someone ELI5 how this could prevent a fork of Chromium from just not playing nice and telling the website "yeah yeah, it's all untempered *wink wink*" and then still remove/alter stuff as it pleases?

Edit: ok I think I got it ... it's basically the server that decides if it trusts the judgment of the client or not. Can't wait to see that cat-and-mouse game going on 🙄

I guess I'll never use Chrome or Google products again then

So..I don't use chrome anymore, but I use Vivaldi. Guess this'll fuck that up too or will they remove it?

Edit: looks like they're concerned about it but also are worried stripping it out will f up theye browser being accepted

I don't understand. Isn't someone just going to fork Chromium, take out this stuff, put in something that spoofs the DRM to the sites so that adblocking still works?

NOOOOOOO

Can someone ELI5 me on what this is and why it is bad?

I wonder how many people will be ok with this, considering that there's a large portion of folks who does not know what's AdBlock

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I guess I won that bet. :/

I just don't understand why they're trying to solve this issue on the client side. It seems like a losing battle to me.

Instead, focus on the server side. If you want to push ads, then host on (or tunnel from) the content server. Get rid of all the <div\>s and tags and scripts and adserver links that the adblockers are using to identify ads. Just assemble the page on the host so that it looks indistinguisable from the content the user is looking for and push it out. EAT BACHELOR CHOW! NOW WITH FLAVOR! Google could even start an ad-friendly hosting service that does this - some sitebuilder tools, identify where you want Google Adsense, and host the damn thing.

Would it be possible to create a fork of chromium to avoid google's influence?

Google is actively trying to drive people like me away. I have been trying my hardest to keep using Android, if Google keeps this up I might have to unwillingly move to Apple. At least they do more than just pretend to care about their users' privacy.

Any ideas what the behavior of webpages will be if somebody uses PiHole?

This won't be used just to block ads. If you're signed in to Google, this DRM will be used to track you, as well. VPNs will be useless because the tracking won't be done through your IP address, but through your browser, identified by DRM and tied to your Google account.

That's what this is really about. Knowing, where you go, what you see, what you buy, who you associate with. Forcing you to watch ads is just the icing on the cake

I quite disagree, it is very hard. Sure, switching search engine takes all of two seconds, and email can be had from many vendors free and commercial.

But calendaring! A calendar that is at least somewhat integrated with am email client, supports more than one actual calendar, and has real-world capability to share them with others - "if you succeed in this, two me how."

(not sure this worked as intended. I meant to reply to https://lemmy.world/comment/1748023)

What does this mean?

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The real two internets is happening

I run Chrome to use work (Google) email and services, and Firefox for as much as possible. The challenge is that about a 10% of things I use only work properly on Chrome. It's IE6 all over again, history repeating itself.

Why is this bad? On first read, it seems like it could replace personally identifiable advertiser cookies with a trusted assertion that I am a human. Feels like a win

oh, hai guys